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Post by JBeans on Jul 1, 2015 16:47:23 GMT
Hence, There is a booklet which tells you species, limits, slot limits and so on for each body of water. Elaine seems to have a good handle on that.
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Post by yivit on Jul 1, 2015 16:58:33 GMT
elaine, the Zebco 33 is the perfect starter setup! I grew up fishing (pond, lake, saltwater) and have used just about everything from bare line to big ol' honkin' saltwater rigs. My parents and grandparents started us out on cane poles until we were big enough to be able to cast ourselves. I remember going to my grandparents' in central Texas and my grandpa making up his "famous" dough bait - corn flakes, Karo syrup and Big Red - for us to put on our hooks. It wasn't until a few years ago that I found out that he wasn't just taking us fishing - he actually worked at the fishing barge on that lake part-time. My DS loves to fish too, which is good because that means all that gear in the garage that late DH and I collected over the years isn't just sitting there.
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Post by elaine on Jul 1, 2015 18:18:00 GMT
please know that Yubon is not necessarily being all that overdramatic-- in certain areas, overfishing and not being careful with catch and release of the smaller-sized fish has led to a shortage of larger trophy fish. (since the small fish are what grow into the larger fish, and it can take years.) No, fishing isn't rocket science-- but anyone who wants to take part responsibly in an outdoor sport like fishing or hunting should care enough about the environment and the sport to be cognizant of the affect they have (both positive and negative) as a result of partaking in that sport. Hunting and fishing can be good for the animal population overall, but done without regard to the long-term health of the population, they can be devastating. You know, all of this is true, however it is beyond off-putting and actually counter-productive to assume that you and Yubon are the only ones with this knowledge and that everyone else here is hell bent on trashing the environment, killing all the wildlife, and will take great pleasure in it all. Just because I didn't want to bore the board with a novella reviewing my lengthy history of outdoor pursuits, doesn't mean I'm an idiot with no experience or regard for the environment. Again, coming at people assuming the worst about them and figuratively hitting them upside the head with an "I'm so much more environmentally aware than you" attitude doesn't make anyone want to treat nature any more respectfully.
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Post by elaine on Jul 1, 2015 18:28:42 GMT
Hence, There is a booklet which tells you species, limits, slot limits and so on for each body of water. Elaine seems to have a good handle on that. Yes! There are lots of handy charts that are easy to review for the state of VA. Thank you for your help JBeans! elaine, the Zebco 33 is the perfect starter setup! I grew up fishing (pond, lake, saltwater) and have used just about everything from bare line to big ol' honkin' saltwater rigs. My parents and grandparents started us out on cane poles until we were big enough to be able to cast ourselves. I remember going to my grandparents' in central Texas and my grandpa making up his "famous" dough bait - corn flakes, Karo syrup and Big Red - for us to put on our hooks. It wasn't until a few years ago that I found out that he wasn't just taking us fishing - he actually worked at the fishing barge on that lake part-time. My DS loves to fish too, which is good because that means all that gear in the garage that late DH and I collected over the years isn't just sitting there. Thanks! My neighbor was outside as we came back from our shopping trip and even showed us how easy it will be to move the reel to another rod if my boys really get into it and outgrow it. We did some more planning for our outing - I will be providing lunch in exchange for his help. He, on the other hand, has a toddler at home and is looking forward to getting out of the house (he works out of the house) kid-free, so he insists we are doing him a favor. One of my better childhood memories was fishing off a pier in Honolulu when I was 8 with the hotel kid camp. They gave us bamboo "rods" with strings attached to a hook. We used shrimp as bait and I caught three Pompino that my mother graciously cooked for us in our hotel kitchenette. I would like to give my boys some memories like that and have us spend more time outdoors together. Since my younger son has poor stamina, things that involve a lot of walking are out. I think that fishing will be great.
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Post by elaine on Jul 1, 2015 18:31:01 GMT
My husband's brother shoots fish! Halibut that is. So he gets in fishing and hunting in one trip. Have fun with your adventure. Halibut can be some HUGE fish! Yummy too. I hope that he shares with you. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 18:36:38 GMT
My husband's brother shoots fish! Halibut that is. So he gets in fishing and hunting in one trip. Have fun with your adventure. Halibut can be some HUGE fish! Yummy too. I hope that he shares with you. Thanks! Nope never did. Nor did they share the salmon. They sent a box to his parents, and they gave us some. Once!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 1, 2015 19:03:15 GMT
please know that Yubon is not necessarily being all that overdramatic-- in certain areas, overfishing and not being careful with catch and release of the smaller-sized fish has led to a shortage of larger trophy fish. (since the small fish are what grow into the larger fish, and it can take years.) No, fishing isn't rocket science-- but anyone who wants to take part responsibly in an outdoor sport like fishing or hunting should care enough about the environment and the sport to be cognizant of the affect they have (both positive and negative) as a result of partaking in that sport. Hunting and fishing can be good for the animal population overall, but done without regard to the long-term health of the population, they can be devastating. You know, all of this is true, however it is beyond off-putting and actually counter-productive to assume that you and Yubon are the only ones with this knowledge and that everyone else here is hell bent on trashing the environment, killing all the wildlife, and will take great pleasure in it all. Just because I didn't want to bore the board with a novella reviewing my lengthy history of outdoor pursuits, doesn't mean I'm an idiot with no experience or regard for the environment. Again, coming at people assuming the worst about them and figuratively hitting them upside the head with an "I'm so much more environmentally aware than you" attitude doesn't make anyone want to treat nature any more respectfully. No offense meant, elaine. I was only going off of what you said in the OP which was something to the effect of 'DS wants to fish so now I have to learn' which led me to believe you didn't know anything about it at all. Not everyone has the same opinions about the environment and 'nature' and in my opinion (having grown up in a small town in a family of hunters and fishermen and now living in a very large metropolitan area), the vast majority of people out there (and yes, I know I'm generalizing) don't know much about the outdoors and the environment at all. I apologize if it sounded condescending in any way, and I wasn't trying to make myself out to be more environmentally aware.
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Post by JBeans on Jul 1, 2015 20:59:28 GMT
Psst..... You still sound condescending.
Elaine, what are you mainly fishing for? We're up for walleye and pike. There are a number of us going so We're turning it into a mini tournament.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 1, 2015 21:19:35 GMT
well, bless your heart--
how's that?
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Post by elaine on Jul 1, 2015 21:34:51 GMT
Psst..... You still sound condescending. Elaine, what are you mainly fishing for? We're up for walleye and pike. There are a number of us going so We're turning it into a mini tournament. While my dream is to catch trout some day (it is one of my favorite eating fishes), the stocking of our rivers and bodies of water is in the Fall, so that dream will have to wait. I think that we will probably catch mostly sunfish - largemouth and smallmouth bass are very plentiful around here, along with crappies and sun perch. It sounds like, given their populations and eating habits, that we will be best suited to catching these easier fish this summer. It sounds like you are going to have an awesome vacation. I love being on the water - I hope that you have a great time and catch enough to have some great fish feasts. I want pictures when you get back!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 1, 2015 22:47:26 GMT
Elaine, have fun fishing!! (seriously, I mean it-- fishing is a lot of fun ) I miss fishing, actually-- we went to Minnesota every summer when I was a kid, and although there are lakes here in AZ, it wouldn't be the same as those nostalgic childhood memories. Sunfish, crappies, and perch are great eating, even if they end up being only a small 'chip' of a fish filet by the time you're done!
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jul 1, 2015 23:19:22 GMT
Holy shit Elaine, you are always looking to be offended. My 2nd post was directed at the person I quoted,, who said that killing fish was the main goal. I was talking to her. Isn't that why we quote people? Fuck.
As for your subsequent posts - if you and your neighbor know so damn much, then why are you even bothering to ask the Peas?
For future reference - I don't give a shit what you did before I was born or what you have done since. Only you could get pissed on a fishing thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 0:09:36 GMT
I think killing the fish is the main goal here. Not always. I know lots of people that fish for the experience and throw most of them back. Love y'all and not picking on anyone - but no way in heck do I go fishing for catch and release. I go for catch and eat, or I don't go. elaine - I'm not holding out on the advice. Mine would be outdated, at best. Also, for general guides on what bait works best, I think it's best to get local advice. I do suggest talking to several fisherman, if possible, because each angler tends to have her/his own tips and tricks. Keep what you want; discard the rest (advice that is). Talking with the local tackle shop guys is a great idea!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 0:13:07 GMT
Holy shit Elaine, you are always looking to be offended. My 2nd post was directed at the person I quoted,, who said that killing fish was the main goal. I was talking to her. Isn't that why we quote people? Fuck. As for your subsequent posts - if you and your neighbor know so damn much, then why are you even bothering to ask the Peas? For future reference - I don't give a shit what you did before I was born or what you have done since. Only you could get pissed on a fishing thread. Nope - not just elaine - bless your heart, i think it was snotty little post, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 0:16:13 GMT
BTW elaine, I've been thinking about getting back into fishing lately, and your post - together with the listing of various fish - have my mouth watering and my fingers itching for a pole!!! Thanks - I think!
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Post by elaine on Jul 2, 2015 0:36:42 GMT
BTW elaine, I've been thinking about getting back into fishing lately, and your post - together with the listing of various fish - have my mouth watering and my fingers itching for a pole!!! Thanks - I think! Think about the calm sounds of water lapping up against things. The smell of fish sizzling in the pan or on a grill. It is calling to you.....
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Post by elaine on Jul 2, 2015 0:53:03 GMT
Holy shit Elaine, you are always looking to be offended. My 2nd post was directed at the person I quoted,, who said that killing fish was the main goal. I was talking to her. Isn't that why we quote people? Fuck. As for your subsequent posts - if you and your neighbor know so damn much, then why are you even bothering to ask the Peas? For future reference - I don't give a shit what you did before I was born or what you have done since. Only you could get pissed on a fishing thread. Meh. Only you can get pissy on a fishing thread. Or any thread that isn't about you and your cats. As for asking the peas, silly me thought that it might be fun to discuss a hobby/sport that I guessed peas participated in, but I haven't seen discussed here. And partially, I was correct - there are a few peas who I never would have guessed fish and who shared some positives. It offends you when we talk about coloring, and it offends you when we talk about fishing. There are only so many crazy cat lady threads I want to participate in, so I guess suffering your moods is one of the negative prices I have to pay for discussing other topics here.
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Post by yivit on Jul 2, 2015 1:56:25 GMT
We spent a buttload of money over the years to go fishing - from gear to boats. DH and his best friend used to save up aluminum cans and take them to the recycling machine in the parking lot of their favorite tackle shop and use the money on the newest and coolest lures.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 3:44:40 GMT
We spent a buttload of money over the years to go fishing - from gear to boats. DH and his best friend used to save up aluminum cans and take them to the recycling machine in the parking lot of their favorite tackle shop and use the money on the newest and coolest lures. That's an awesome idea to support a hobby!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 3:46:11 GMT
BTW elaine, I've been thinking about getting back into fishing lately, and your post - together with the listing of various fish - have my mouth watering and my fingers itching for a pole!!! Thanks - I think! Think about the calm sounds of water lapping up against things. The smell of fish sizzling in the pan or on a grill. It is calling to you..... ohhhh --- you little enabler! I do think my blood pressure went down a little while I was picturing your scene. Thanks for push.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 3:52:36 GMT
My neighbor was outside as we came back from our shopping trip and even showed us how easy it will be to move the reel to another rod if my boys really get into it and outgrow it. We did some more planning for our outing - I will be providing lunch in exchange for his help. He, on the other hand, has a toddler at home and is looking forward to getting out of the house (he works out of the house) kid-free, so he insists we are doing him a favor. One of my better childhood memories was fishing off a pier in Honolulu when I was 8 with the hotel kid camp. They gave us bamboo "rods" with strings attached to a hook. We used shrimp as bait and I caught three Pompino that my mother graciously cooked for us in our hotel kitchenette. I would like to give my boys some memories like that and have us spend more time outdoors together. Since my younger son has poor stamina, things that involve a lot of walking are out. I think that fishing will be great. It sounds like you have the perfect setup going with your neighbor - a complete win-win!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 2, 2015 3:59:43 GMT
...fishing is a good way to relax, too-- when I was in college and living at home for the summer, I'd go fishing on a local man-made lake in the afternoon / evening with my parents, after my mom would get home from work (she worked in a bank). A good portion of the time, if the bluegills would steal the bait off her line, she wouldn't bother to re-bait the hook-- she'd just sit and relax with her fishing pole and a magazine! lol!!
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Post by CarolT on Jul 2, 2015 4:01:24 GMT
I love fishing - I haven't been in years and need to go, soon! I grew up fishing with my dad, and I've caught everything from little tiny bream to 100lb+ sailfish... I miss it!! The Zebco 33 is the perfect starter set up - my advice it to go and have fun with your kids If you need some help with the technical side of things, it sounds like your neighbor has you covered - my dad taught my son... the best way to learn is from someone who cares about you (your kids) and loves to fish. It takes patience, and there is a lot more to fishing than the technical side of things. I learned to fly fish from the weekend clinics at our local Bass Pro shop, so if you ever get to the point that you want to learn to do that, I highly recommend them BTW, according to my dad, canned corn only works for hatchery-raised fish, as that is a common food in the hatchery. I don't know if that's true or not
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Post by eastcoastpea on Jul 3, 2015 18:35:39 GMT
How old is he? Our middle schools and high schools have fishing teams and it is recognized by the state as an official sport. In fact, you can get bass fishing scholarships to the state universities. I kid you not. So there might be some local kids who would be willing to help out. I also second the idea of going to the outdoor gear stores in your area and ask around or maybe try the public library or the local parks and rec department for your city or what about your local state park? Or what about the Big Brothers/Big Sisters program? Wow. I never heard of fishing scholarships before. I think we need to move to your state.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Jul 3, 2015 18:57:27 GMT
Fishing hats are a great idea to keep the sun off and to keep from getting hooked. Only the bravest, or most foolish, of souls goes on a boat with my one brother-in-law. He has a bad habit of casting without being aware of what's going on around him. I think he's hooked just about everyone in the family.
A jitterbug is my favorite lure for bass fishing. You can tell if you're reeling it in at the right speed by the way it sounds.
We're overdue for a family fishing trip. I hope your family has a great time. Please be sure to report back after you go.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Jul 3, 2015 23:39:43 GMT
When I was a kid I loved to fish with my grandparents. My grandpa and i always had fishing contests when we were camping. I remember going out in his boat with them and he said he was going to catch more fish than me and I laughed at him. I told him I was going to catch more then him and I was going to do it by using one hotdog all day. Well, that night when we got back to camp I got out of the truck and carried my limit of fish with me and he had only caught 5 fish all day. I think the limit was 12 at the time. I stopped fishing because I used all my hot dog. I told him I would help him catch his limit but I ran out of hot dog.
I would not try to learn how to fish with out some one helping me. what kind of fish does your son want to fish.
Daughter wanted to fish when she was in the first grade we took her to a trout pond. there you fish all you want and if you catch any fish you can keep them or release them. at the end of your fishing you take them to the person at the pond and they clean them and then you pay for the fish. It was a lot of fun and she loved it. We got enough fish for dinner that night.
We took her out a few more times while camping but she didn't like it as much and lost interest.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 5, 2015 1:19:38 GMT
Fishing hats are a great idea to keep the sun off and to keep from getting hooked. Only the bravest, or most foolish, of souls goes on a boat with my one brother-in-law. He has a bad habit of casting without being aware of what's going on around him. I think he's hooked just about everyone in the family.A jitterbug is my favorite lure for bass fishing. You can tell if you're reeling it in at the right speed by the way it sounds. We're overdue for a family fishing trip. I hope your family has a great time. Please be sure to report back after you go. ^^^ I got hooked once (in the top of my head, if I recall correctly) and it was horrible!!! more because I was so not expecting it than anything else, but it was not fun.
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Post by JBeans on Jul 5, 2015 14:03:59 GMT
Thought I'd pop in and give you a fishing report!
The fish are biting but they are the really tiny guys! We got a few eater size, just enough for a fish fry.
The fish cops are out here in full force, checking boats, asking for fishing licenses and asking questions. The first time we went out, one of the groups got nailed with something that cost them $500 and a year suspension.
Not too worried as we stay in our limits and slot size. Even if I was a newbie, I wouldn't worry too much as there are a lot of experienced anglers down here that would help.
There is also a free fishing trout pond here that you don't need a license to fish.
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Post by elaine on Jul 5, 2015 15:09:52 GMT
JBeans, Thanks for the report! I'm envious - it sounds like so much fun. I hope you get a few of the bigger fish to bite before your trip is over.
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Post by mommythree on Jul 5, 2015 15:22:04 GMT
my son has been fishing for the past two years....he LOVES it! I took him to Bass Pro, and they hooked him up with what he needed...they were great. told him what bait to use, where the best fresh water lakes/ponds were in our town. he also gets great tips from the people that fish around him, iam so glad he found something that he enjoys that's not hooked up to a tv or computer monitor.
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