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Post by jenjie on Jul 7, 2015 10:40:42 GMT
Deleted OP because it was mean spirited. It was some stupid things that have been said to me. I should not have brought them here.
The moral is, think twice before you speak AND before you post.
ETA
Because i shared this down thread - it probably shouldn't have made me laugh but it did.
Don't compare the death of your pet to the death of a loved one. No matter how much you love your dog and it's a member of your family. Just don't. It won't come off well.
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Post by janniepea on Jul 7, 2015 10:43:56 GMT
Oh my gosh. My heart hurts for you. Hugs.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 7, 2015 10:50:14 GMT
Oh my gosh. My heart hurts for you. Hugs. Thank you
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jul 7, 2015 11:07:55 GMT
I read it. I just want to let you know I understand.
Very few people know the right words at the right time.
Their bungled attempts hide their own pain, discomfort, or need to make it better.
Focus on those who responded perfectly. Hopefully, the others will learn from them.
I am sorry for your loss. Your grace is admirable. But you are also allowed to be angry and throw pillows (just an example--you did not say you did so in the OP)
You are allowed to be upset about what others said. You are allowed to feel what you feel. This is a new experience for you. Go easy on yourself.
Take care.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 7, 2015 11:18:40 GMT
I read it. I just want to let you know I understand. Very few people know the right words at the right time. Their bungled attempts hide their own pain, discomfort, or need to make it better. Focus on those who responded perfectly. Hopefully, the others will learn from them. I am sorry for your loss. You grace is admirable. But you are also allowed to be angry and throw pillows. You are allowed to be upset about what others said. You are allowed to feel what you feel. This is a new experience for you. Go easy on yourself. Take care. Thank you for this. I like how you said "focus on those who responded perfectly." Yes. I know I could keep that OP up and nobody would think less of me. But for my sake i have no business being ugly about people who were trying to be kind, no matter how foolishly they came across. In the grand scheme of things I can't let that be the thing that robs me of peace. Thank you for your kindness/
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jul 7, 2015 11:29:19 GMT
You are an amazing person.
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Post by kristi521 on Jul 7, 2015 11:32:46 GMT
You are an amazing person. I will second this! You have shown amazing grace throughout! I am so sorry that you and your family are going down this path. May you continue to find peace and comfort knowing that your beloved Fred is with our heavenly Father.
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Post by brandy327 on Jul 7, 2015 11:35:05 GMT
I'm sorry you were hurt or upset by someone's foolish words. Continued thoughts and prayers for you and your family. <3
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 11:37:15 GMT
Well I didn't read the post, but I also think you are an amazing person! As for my what not to do? Don't cook bacon topless. Ouch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 11:38:19 GMT
I didn't read it but if someone has said something to hurt you at this time then I'm so sorry, people don't always engage their brains first mouth second sometimes
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Post by christine58 on Jul 7, 2015 11:49:21 GMT
Sometimes people don't know what to say when someone dies. They probably had good intentions and it came out wrong.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 7, 2015 11:52:53 GMT
You are an amazing person. Thank you. But I'm just doing what I know to survive. Going down certain paths will take me places I have no business going and will eat me alive.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 7, 2015 11:54:54 GMT
Well I didn't read the post, but I also think you are an amazing person! As for my what not to do? Don't cook bacon topless. Ouch. Hah! I will tell you one thing only because it actually made me laugh. Don't compare the death of your pet to the death of a loved one. No matter how much you love your dog and it's a member of your family. Just don't. It won't come off well.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jul 7, 2015 11:57:18 GMT
You are an amazing person. Thank you. But I'm just doing what I know to survive. Going down certain paths will take me places I have no business going and will eat me alive. I agree. It is better to avoid the inevitable consequences of certain choices. You are still an amazing person.
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Post by pelirroja on Jul 7, 2015 12:08:47 GMT
Years ago, in grade school (so it's a bit fuzzy), I had a history teacher who used to quote, "It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". I wish your dog commentary person knew that but it's clear they took the remove-all-doubt-road. Frankly, sometimes people are just awkward in situations and say something inappropriate and silly. Giving them grace is a good thing, and ignoring them is even better. I hope that's the last insipid thing you have to deal with but unfortunately, it's probably not.
((hugs))
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Post by DEX on Jul 7, 2015 12:21:52 GMT
I hear ya. When my husband passed away, an acquaintance of mine said, "February was such an awful month." She went on to tell me about her daughter's minor surgical procedure. I kinda I chuckle now. You will go through many stages in your grief. Some of these emotions will feel uncharacteristic for you but they are perfectly normal. Even those days when you want to rip someone's head off and stick it up their butt.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 7, 2015 12:37:25 GMT
Oh and the "he/she is in a better place"..a dear friend whose daughter died after a stem cell transplant told me she wanted so much to say "the better place was here with her family"...better to be silent than open your mouth and look foolish..
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Post by Merge on Jul 7, 2015 12:46:07 GMT
I'm sorry; I know exactly what you mean and it's sucky when people let you down like that.
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Post by marimoose on Jul 7, 2015 12:50:33 GMT
Well I didn't read the post, but I also think you are an amazing person! As for my what not to do? Don't cook bacon topless. Ouch. My first laugh of the day. Thank you. What an image haha. And Jenjie, I didn't see the original post but each time I read anything that you post, I am impressed with your grace and only hope that I could handle things half as well as you are.
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Post by gloryjoy on Jul 7, 2015 12:53:17 GMT
I'm sorry someone said that to you. My first reaction is "how insensitive", and then my second reaction after I think about it a bit is that they didn't know what to say.
But yeah, a simple "I'm sorry" would have been so much better.
Hugs to you.
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Post by peano on Jul 7, 2015 12:53:54 GMT
Jenjie, you have my deepest sympathies on the loss of Fred. I can't imagine how difficult this time is for you and your family. In my view, grieving people get a pass. So be gentle with yourself and your human frailties.
If I can say anything in the dog bereavement person's defense: rather than seeing what they said as an attempt to compare the loss of a pet to your husband, can you see it as the person's clumsy attempt to try to connect with you in that deep place of loss and sadness?
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Post by scrapaddie on Jul 7, 2015 13:03:50 GMT
Just know that people are TRYING to speak from the heart, but only those who have been there know want it is like... they are drawing from their own experiences to relate.... but have not been in the same place as you.... and some never will, even if they experience a similar loss... and others just are afraid to feel any part of your loss
Yes, they are stupid, but know that somewhere in their hearts, they are trying to offer some kind of sympathy.
Btw... I did not see the original pist
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Jul 7, 2015 13:05:00 GMT
I'm sorry someone said something to hurt you.
Sometimes you don't know what to say and "stupid" just falls out of your mouth...BTDT!
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Post by caro on Jul 7, 2015 13:16:06 GMT
You are an amazing person. Thank you. But I'm just doing what I know to survive. Going down certain paths will take me places I have no business going and will eat me alive. That's so true Jen. People don't know what to say. They mean well, they really do, but I think they are afraid. Afraid it will happen to them, afraid they will cry in front of you, afraid they will say the wrong thing. I remember the things people said to me when my first DH died and when my DD died. It took me a long time to come to the realization the things they said weren't meant to hurt me even though it did at the time. And even though I know this grief, I have said things to people when they are grieving that probably hurt them. I can think of one that makes me cringe every time I think about it. I know these people blindside you with their words but you are on the right track to forgive and forget and not let it eat away at you. That's what Satan wants. God does not. Hugs to you and prayers continue. And when you need to vent, do it here!
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Post by auntkelly on Jul 7, 2015 13:17:39 GMT
I think you showed tremendous self control if you came here to vent instead of slapping that person in the face. I know you know that person wasn't trying to hurt you, but that was an insensitive comment to say the least.
You have been handling everything w/ such grace. I hope you feel free to vent here among friends.
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Post by tincin on Jul 7, 2015 13:21:24 GMT
I think people try to do the best they can to come up with something comforting to say when faced with death. I'm sorry people didn't think things through before the spoke. When I had my first miscarriage, my SIL told me it was okay because "the baby was probably retarded or something." I know she was trying to help but I still recall those words more than 35 years later.
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Post by MorningPerson on Jul 7, 2015 13:23:21 GMT
Don't compare the death of your pet to the death of a loved one. No matter how much you love your dog and it's a member of your family. Just don't. It won't come off well. If I can say anything in the dog bereavement person's defense: rather than seeing what they said as an attempt to compare the loss of a pet to your husband, can you see it as the person's clumsy attempt to try to connect with you in that deep place of loss and sadness? I agree with you and the others who have said that most people really do mean well, and that they just don't know what to say. That's why I think this thread is a good one to use to let each other know the right and wrong things to say. I've been enlightened on such a wide variety of topics here at 2Peas/Refugees, and this thread might help those of us who are on either side of the grieving comments topic. Here's my addition of what not to say. If you know someone who is on a medical leave from her job because she's fighting a very scary form of cancer, DO NOT call her daughter to ask if her mom will be returning to work, because you'd love to have her job. Spoiler alert: that daughter was 22 year old me, scared and beyond sad at the impending loss of my mother who passed away not too much later.
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Post by ellen on Jul 7, 2015 13:23:33 GMT
I'm a little jealous of the person who compared the loss of a pet to a close family member. Eventually they will experience a loss that will bring them to their knees and they'll know it's not comparable. I'm not defending their comment. They should know better. One thing that was hard for me when I lost my mom in a way that was very traumatic is that my grief made a lot of people uncomfortable. I still find it hard to believe some of the people who never said a single word to me about it. I know for many they were worried they'd rock my boat and set off tears, but to pretend nothing happened is hurtful. A simple "I'm sorry" is very helpful. So if you aren't sure of what to say, that is what you can say. You cannot go wrong with that.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 7, 2015 13:34:29 GMT
I totally disagree with the comments that it's better to be silent. I was very, very hurt by those who remained silent. A simple I'm sorry for your loss is much, much better than silence. And personally I was much more hurt than those who were silent and/ or missing than any awkward attempt at comfort.
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Post by peano on Jul 7, 2015 13:36:03 GMT
Here's my addition of what not to say. If you know someone who is on a medical leave from her job because she's fighting a very scary form of cancer, DO NOT call her daughter to ask if her mom will be returning to work, because you'd love to have her job. Spoiler alert: that daughter was 22 year old me, scared and beyond sad at the impending loss of my mother who passed away not too much later. Wow! I'm having trouble returning my jaw to its normal position with that one! I can't even imagine that level of insensitivity.
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