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Post by iowgirl on Sept 1, 2015 23:14:56 GMT
Didn't want to hijack the other thread about what types of consoles to buy... We pulled the plug on our DS's game console when he was about 11. That boy could not stay away from the thing. We set some time limits on it and he would get up during the middle of the night to play. He wouldn't even hear us come down to see what was going on. We finally just disassembled the whole thing and said "no gaming at home". We did let him have it back after school was out for the summer and it started up again to be an all consuming thing, so out it went. He finally got one again when he was about 16 and played some, but it wasn't like when he was younger. He did play at friends houses and we were ok with that. (One friend informed me "your games suck" - LOL). My favorite was the kid who told me he was going to design games and be RICH! I am not sure if he graduated from High School. Fast forward ... my son is in college now and has 3 other roommates. He said they sit their like Zombies and stare at the games. He enjoys it gaming once in a while. These are 3 random pick roommates from different areas of the country. None of them could carry on a conversation with me when I helped him move in. He said "they are weird"... LOL. He likes to go find a basketball game in the evening to blow off some steam, but he said they won't leave the couch. I am SO glad we intervened at a young age. Do you think it is a problem when kids are gaming all the time? Or is it just a problem with me?
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Post by myboysnme on Sept 1, 2015 23:18:51 GMT
No I did not pull the plug. My boys had most game systems and it was not unusual at our house to have a bunch of boys over gaming. Now my older son plays role playing games with friends and live action role play. He doesn't often play video games. Younger son, also an adult, works alot and goes to college. He still enjoys video games with others like xbox live. Neither one is unsocial and they both actually prefer gaming with friends over solo gaming. I think it can depend on the kid and what else they have going on in their lives as well.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 1, 2015 23:23:51 GMT
Yes We had time limits and tickets. You didn't play if you didn't have a ticket even if you had time. Tickets were earned doing extra stuff, being super nice or thoughtful. Worked really well until they hit 14. Interest waned. We had to find another currency.
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Post by sillyrabbit on Sept 1, 2015 23:27:54 GMT
My younger DS who has autism is a big gamer. It's something he is very good at and has helped him build confidence in himself. He also interacts with friends through his gaming so it's good in that aspect too. He still goes outside and whatever so he's not a zombie. It's just his thing, and we're fine with that. Older DS never had even the slightest interest in video games. I figure to each their own. ETA: We did monitor which games he was allowed to play until he was about 16. At that age we felt he was mature enough to understand the difference between pretend games and reality.
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Post by kimpossible on Sept 1, 2015 23:30:49 GMT
I have done so and will continue to do so. In our house its earned and not a given.
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Post by caangel on Sept 1, 2015 23:35:38 GMT
I haven't plugged it in! My kids are still young (6 and 8) so it could still happen. They rarely get to play on our phones or the tablet or the computer, maybe 2-3x a month. I use it to my advantage and let them play when they have to be with me for a meeting or something. I always get compliments on their behavior because they are so engrossed. We have good neighborhood friends that don't have games either. I love that they will just play, pretend, create something, or hang in the back yard. I'm avoiding gaming as long as possible, if it ever happens it will be very limited. I used to be a WOW widow and have no desire to go back to that or have my kids get drawn in. While there are some benefits I'm good with what we have now.
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Post by Kerri W on Sept 1, 2015 23:38:49 GMT
This is an area where we are currently struggling.
DS1 liked to play games but wasn't consumed by them. We never needed to set limits. He's 16 now and will occasionally (couple times a month?) say he's playing a game but in his free time he is much more apt to be hiking or doing some sort of outdoor activity.
DS2 is completely the opposite. He wants an electronic device of some sort in his hands at all times. It doesn't necessarily have to be a game...he's cool with an iPod to listen to music or something to watch videos. Where I struggle is that DH is a huge "information gatherer." He takes an interest in something and researches it. DS is the same way. So when I get on him about the device he's using he will quite often be watching videos on water displacement or something equally nerdy. Do I really want to stop that?!
But he is completely consumed by the videos. Consumed. He doesn't hear anything you're saying. Completely ignores whatever is going on in the room. The flip side of that coin is that his teachers have said his focus is amazing. When he's told to work on something he does and tunes out whatever is going on around him.
So I throw my hands up! I'm not sure which way to go.
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Post by bluepoprocks on Sept 1, 2015 23:47:27 GMT
We set time limits. They are only allowed to play for two hours four times a week. Most of their friends can play as much as they want so they don't think our rules are fair.
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Post by mommc23 on Sept 1, 2015 23:53:28 GMT
I would pull the plug if I felt like the gaming was all consuming or something that they had to do all day long every day. Certainly, waking up in the middle of the night would cause a huge concern for me as a parent.
That being said, we play video games at our house. Lots of games. I play with them. It is fun for us and a great way to engage my kids in ways that allow them to open up and talk with us. I get a little frustrated at times when I hear video games being vilified or that certain kids turned out to be social losers under the assumption that video games CAUSED their loser life!
I know kids who never played video games...who played tons of sports and did not turn out as productive citizens. I know kids who played video games constantly and are now dentists, doctors and lawyers. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that all of the adults that we know who play video games are super smart and successful and by every sense of the word would be considered 'productive' adults.
I draw my line at violent video games or games that demean people. Maybe it's more of what type of game you play, but it's an assumption to say that video games cause lazy kids. I believe that if a kid wants to check out of society, they will find a way to do that whether or not video games are an allowed part of their life.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 0:05:05 GMT
No I have not pulled the plug. I have put the parental controls in place on WOW so on school days it comes on at 4PM and goes off at 8PM. She gets up on time and has her things ready the night before. As long as DD continues to make good grades and keeps a good attitude, I will let her keep playing. If she gets up and night and tries to play other online games, that is on her because she is the one who has to sit in class all day. If the grades tank, she is very aware the computer power cord will be pulled from the room until improvement is made. What is really amazing though is watching how she has built her guild, how she leads raids, how she has built her online community, etc. She is learning skills at her age through WOW that I never learned at her age so we are focusing on the good parts and letting her run with them. We did refuse Call of Duty so she sticks with WOW, Minecraft and Ark Survival Evolved.
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Post by cmpeter on Sept 2, 2015 0:06:34 GMT
Mine were never over obsessed. But, we had a no gaming on school days and they had to have good grades to play.
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Post by AnotherPea on Sept 2, 2015 0:14:02 GMT
I wish more parents would pay attention to all-consuming addictions that some kids have. And then do something about it.
I couldn't tell you how many parent conferences I've had where mothers have sadly shaken their heads and said the kids just won't study or do homework. They comes home and plays video games until 2 or 3 in the morning. They complain that their children are cranky, are getting poor grades, won't talk to them, yet continue to feed the kids' obsessions!
Had one kid that fell asleep in class A LOT. Probably 3/4 times a week. Mondays were the worst. His mother actually asked "what do you expect me to do? He's on his games all night long. Of course he's going to sleep in class!" Duh! I suggested she take the games away on school nights. She said he'd flip out. Okay then. Conversation is over.
I had to take books away from my oldest kid. Books. But anything that becomes an obsession and interferes with real life has to be tempered.
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Post by eventhinker on Sept 2, 2015 0:14:22 GMT
I never really had to but here in SW PA one of the local newscasters had an SEB - summer electronics ban. She face booked the whole summer - the ups the downs, successes and failures.
She has 5 boys. It seemed to work for her and she did a report about it on the news. Most people applauded it but she took a lot of criticism too.
Google SEB Wendy bell - WTAE. also on YouTube
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Sept 2, 2015 0:14:46 GMT
I think that most kids needs to unplug and go find a basketball game somewhere.
We always had rules with video games. My daughter was always good about going by the rules though so we never had an issue. I do remember the summer after 2nd grade when we were in the middle of a big move. moved out of one house and had to wait 2 months for the new house to be move in able. so We put everything in storage and went camping for the summer. We had electric where we were camping and there wasn't much else for us to do so we would lay in the tent trailer on her bed and play video games on her tiny 13 inch tv. we didn't do it all the time but there were days where we would just veg. There wasn't any tv and we only brought a few movies with us and saved them for the evenings. I really enjoyed that time with her.
She has so many video games and machines it is too much for me. But she will go months and months with out playing any of them and then she says I want to play a video game and spends the weekend or evening playing. It is good for them sometime to veg out but not all the time.
We always had the rule of one hour after homework and chores are done. and that one hour was either a movie, tv show or video game.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 2, 2015 0:20:56 GMT
Definitely didn't get them started as young as their friends started. In elementary school they had a Gameboy and time was limited. By junior high, the Wi arrived and time was limited. By the time my youngest graduated, he had and xBox One and Playstation and a good assortment of games. The rule in high school: Keep your grades up and you can play as much as you like. He had straight A's and took lots of college courses. I think we just kind of lucked out though, really. Every kid and situation is different. Since my boys were two years apart, they also hung out with each other and played on many sports teams and kept very busy "outside."
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 2, 2015 0:22:27 GMT
DS(16) had a problem in MS ignoring homework to play. Normally an easy going kid, he would also get an attitude if he played too long. We shut down all gaming on school days and any attitude shut it down for the weekend. Fortunately this worked for us. We don't officially have any restrictions now, but he doesn't touch his system during the week.
Sorry your DS doesn't have more interesting roommates.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 2, 2015 0:26:36 GMT
I wish more parents would pay attention to all-consuming addictions that some kids have. And then do something about it. I couldn't tell you how many parent conferences I've had where mothers have sadly shaken their heads and said the kids just won't study or do homework. They comes home and plays video games until 2 or 3 in the morning. They complain that their children are cranky, are getting poor grades, won't talk to them, yet continue to feed the kids' obsessions! Had one kid that fell asleep in class A LOT. Probably 3/4 times a week. Mondays were the worst. His mother actually asked "what do you expect me to do? He's on his games all night long. Of course he's going to sleep in class!" Duh! I suggested she take the games away on school nights. She said he'd flip out. Okay then. Conversation is over. I had to take books away from my oldest kid. Books. But anything that becomes an obsession and interferes with real life has to be tempered. Preach it! I had a fifth grader last year that was obsessed and couldn't do basic facts without using his fingers. His comprehension was about second to third grade. His mom swore up and down it didn't matter because he was going to be designing games right out of high school. He was so good at playing games. This was also the kiddo who didn't know how to tie his shoe. His mom did it for him before he left for school. His mom said he was just like Bill Gates. I felt bad for the kid.
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Post by missfrenchjessica on Sept 2, 2015 0:27:36 GMT
My kids are just in middle school so I don't know the long-term impact of playing non-stop video games. I do know that I have no problem taking away their system when it's been overused. I also have no problem scooting them outside to play with friends--whether they want to or not. I can't stand to see them zoned out in front of devices all day long.
I let them have fairly unrestricted access over the summer. I didn't notice that they were on it an extraordinary amount of time. They went out fairly often to play with the neighborhood kids and were at the pool a lot.
I've taken it back from them now that school's started. They may get it over long weekends or breaks, but it won't be something they use daily. Regardless, they really wouldn't have much time--they have several activities/sports they're involved in that make it hard to play at will.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Sept 2, 2015 0:37:44 GMT
We made strict rules after the first week of summer vacation. The rules were literally written out on a poster board stating which times were allowed, what time everything had to be shut off and put away, circumstances where it would be allowed (long car rides or my doctors appts) and how they could earn time. We also had clear rules how these privileges could be taken away. I hate the obsession of it - minecraft, pokemon and a few others. My sons are into their tablets and 3ds, sometimes the wii but not so much anymore.
I think next summer or even school breaks I would go to the extent of having one designated day per week with no gameplay/electronics.
They really got into playing actual board games this summer which was a lot of fun and a nice change.
I get the impression from others that they really depend on video game time as a sitter. Its almost like the parents don't really listen to themselves say "oh I will be able to get such and such done because the kids can always just sit and play video games".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 6:58:48 GMT
I am a definitely not a kid. I posted over on the console gaming thread I am a gamer. I was a big gamer growing up. I was in competitions, tourneys & guilds. I was also a huge reader. My Father was very supportive. As an adult today I am grateful for that. I had rules- study first, get yourself outdoors & then gaming. My parents also made me play a lot of board games. I am also grateful for that because it made me a better gamer. In my twenties I was entering card tournaments. I was a shy child. Gaming taught me to be more outgoing. Taught me to stand up for myself. I am a fast thinker. Gaming was very positive for me. It has helped me as a crafter too. A lot of crafts are strategy and puzzles. I am also dyslexic. Gaming has helped with my dyslexia tremendously. It does depend on the individual child. I have a friend whose son games and he's showing a lot of issues. He is getting violent. I told my friend he needs to pull the plug. This is a childhood friend so I can say these things. He's like "Gaming has been great for you. It's just a phase!" It's not a phase. Pull the dang plug!!!! Ugh! This kid has scared his friends away. I am very concerned. Another friend her son games constantly and he's flunking school. This kid is a teenager. Mom is putting him in a satellite program school because he has her convinced that if he could study "gaming" he will be ok & make good money. I told her to tell that to the people at Rovio who just got laid off. She's pulling the plug. I explained to her that gaming companies go bankrupt all the time or get bought over. I told her to look at all the Kickstarter campaigns for gaming. It's not a lucrative business unless you get into a good company like Bethseda. Even they have had problems in the past. Bethseda just laid off last year some of their division that worked on Skyrim. I am really big supporter of kids gaming. I want to see them game. I want to see them succeed. Like all things it's all on the individual kids and sometimes you have to pull the plug or cut them back. If you have a child that wants to game and your concerned about gaming your public libraries have gaming systems now. They also have tournaments that the kids can get into. You won't have to worry about them being isolated or in danger of playing something you don't want them to play. They can have the educational value of gaming in a safe environment. I hope that helps.
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Post by AussieMeg on Sept 2, 2015 7:26:04 GMT
In the situation you have described (getting up in the middle of the night to play) then yes I would get rid of the thing, and only allow it during school holidays, and even then set time limits. I haven’t had to do that luckily. Sometimes my 10yo son has a friend over and they will play for hours. I just make sure that they go outside and have a run around every so often. But he is completely consumed by the videos. Consumed. He doesn't hear anything you're saying. Completely ignores whatever is going on in the room. I'm like that when I am reading, and it drives DSO nuts! He thinks I'm being rude and ignoring him, but it's just that I am so focused on reading that I completely tune out any background noise. COMPLETELY. Same thing sometimes happens if I am watching TV with a lot of noise (people talking) in the background. I tune everything but the TV out. It actually annoys me when DSO comments on it - I am NOT being deliberately rude, I literally do not hear what is being said in the background.
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Post by maryland on Sept 2, 2015 10:37:40 GMT
Our teen girls do like the games, but they actually like their phones more. If they were ignoring their homework, no social life, etc., we would take their games and phones away. Hasn't been a problem yet.
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Post by mandolyn9909 on Sept 2, 2015 13:06:48 GMT
This thread is perfect timing for me. My three kids have always had a limited time that they are allowed video games but my older ds (11 1/2) is totally consumed with video games/ tablets. If he gets a chance that would be his first choice activity every time and I really worry about him getting addicted to them. Yesterday we realized that he was getting up in the night to secretly play them, and has been doing this for most of the summer. So we have decided to pack them all in and get rid of them in our house. My DH and I still have phones and tablets but the games will be taken off. I feel sorry for my two other children that only moderately play them and have no problem self regulating the gaming but feel for our family that this is the best decision. I hope that when he is an older teen and goes off to college he will understand like your son iowgirl.
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Post by iowgirl on Sept 2, 2015 13:13:04 GMT
Such great responses! It is good to hear how everyone (at least the Pea's) keep on top of their kids gaming.
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Post by brina on Sept 2, 2015 13:21:02 GMT
After an issue last school year - ds lied that he was done with homework so that he could play - we have limited games to weekends only. Plus he went away to camp this summer with no electronics for 6 weeks. Most of the games he enjoys are on his computer, so we cannot just take the system out of the house. If I saw him waking up in the night to play I would sleep with him laptop under my pillow, so yes, would definitely take them away entirely.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 2, 2015 13:25:04 GMT
I never really had to unplug. While both of my kids play video games, neither was obsessed with them. They would play for a while and then stop. Every once in a blue moon I would wander by and suggest that they needed to wrap things up and I don't recall ever having an argument about it. If there ever was a debate, it was usually one of their friends and the head phones would handed over and a "miss anxious, pleasssssse let the boy play for a little while longer' and pushover that I am would agree. My older son and his phone though? Holy smokes. That thing was surgically implanted in his hands. I had to make a rule that all phones (and by extension tablets) were in the kitchen being charged by 10 pm. Otherwise he would have never slept. I get that at some point he, in theory, would have learned the consequences of those actions, but he still hasn't and at almost 20 I am not even involved anymore on this one. For him, that phone is like heroin.
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Sept 2, 2015 13:58:21 GMT
Dh and I are gamers so that wouldn't work in our house. Dd11 enjoys playing games but loves drawing even more. My rule is no computer time before school. When she gets home homework has to be done first thing. I know her homework is getting done because she does it sitting next to me (her choice). I have her pc set to shut down automatically at a certain time at night. Not doing what she is suppose to be doing means no pc time and extra chores. Works well for us.
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Post by raindancer on Sept 2, 2015 14:03:40 GMT
I think it depends on the kid. And I have and will take away gaming as a consequence. But my kid has also worn out his BMX bike and loves to play at the park with his buddies. So he's pretty balanced. If he wasn't I would not hesitate.
I will say that saying stuff like that about his room mates gets my hackles up. I think that because his room mates have different interests than him doesn't make them weird. Lots of gamers enjoy blowing off steam by gaming. That doesn't make your kid special or you a better parent.
I have a gamer and a kid who could not care about gaming if you paid her. That's not for a lack of availability, it's a lack of interest on her part.
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Sept 2, 2015 14:06:55 GMT
While I never actually unplugged (too much of a pain to reach behind the TV or figure out which cords go where), I have taken the remotes away when I felt my younger son was needing a kick in the butt (grades slipping, saying 'no' when asked to play outside, etc.). It didn't happen often, but it did happen. If I ever found out he was getting up in the middle of the night or falling asleep in class, I would have no problem removing the system completely.
That being said, I find as he gets older, he uses it as a social outlet as well. He isn't just parked in front of the Xbox, playing WWF by himself. He makes plans w/friends to all get on at a certain time, they wear their headsets and are talking while they play. Not as good as face-to-face interaction, I admit, but like cell phones, it is another way they communicate. My son also is involved in quite a few extracurricular activities, so this isn't the only time he has contact w/friends. I just find that I actually am worried about his gaming less now than I was when he was younger and would park himself on the sofa w/his GameBoy.
However you decide to handle it, good luck!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 14:32:45 GMT
My son is a gamer, a very good gamer... Starting in high school he has been paid for his popular youtube gaming videos. Some guys like golf, some like fishing, some like gaming and some like all three. Being a gamer does not mean you are a "weirdo". Just so you know, there ARE people who are game designers and do become rich doing it. A university near me brags about the awesome game design degree they offer. There are gamers that HAVE made it to very high levels of their "sport" and make amazing amounts of money. They are skilled at their games AND at marketing themselves. Just like anything else, like baseball or whatever, there will be kids that dream of being a professional gamer or game designer. I actually think it is cool that the kid you mentioned had this unique dream even if it did not happen for him. I am sure at one point, my son would have dreamed of being the "LeBron James" of gaming but he knows realistically hardly anyone gets to that level so he studies hard and works toward his degree while making his gaming videos and more spending money from the comfort of his own bedroom than flipping burgers up the road. There are way, way worse things people could be doing.. Check out this fun news story : www.cbsnews.com/news/the-competitive-world-of-esports/
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