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Post by dazeepetals on Oct 26, 2015 17:23:17 GMT
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Post by bianca42 on Oct 26, 2015 17:24:50 GMT
I'm having bacon for dinner tonight....maybe I'll read the article after.
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Post by threegirls on Oct 26, 2015 17:32:23 GMT
I'm doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 17:33:31 GMT
And next week it will be coffee. And the following week it will be eggs, air, sugar, water - take your pick
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 26, 2015 17:36:46 GMT
As always, if you over eat something, it can kill you. It's all about moderation. I don't think red, or processed meat once a week or less is going to cause cancer...but, what do I know.
We will all die from one thing or another. I will not remove every little thing from my diet. It's silly.
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Post by brandy327 on Oct 26, 2015 17:37:39 GMT
And next week it will be coffee. And the following week it will be eggs, air, sugar, water - take your pick Absolutely. And since I'm going to die anyway, I'm going to enjoy my damned bacon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 17:39:27 GMT
And next week it will be coffee. And the following week it will be eggs, air, sugar, water - take your pick Exactly. I remember learning in school, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Definitely seems to be the case with these Death Food of the Week discoveries. At some point in the future there will be a corresponding article, "Processed Meat and Red Meat: the new Super Foods!" or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 17:43:17 GMT
It's been known for years that there is a slight risk (note the words slight and risk) that red meat was linked to about three extra cases of bowel cancer per 100,000 adults in developed countries. The slight risk would also be attached to everything we eat & breathe IMO. Maybe they could use their time more effectively to monitor the chemicals that are added to otherwise " healthy" food or the chemicals that are floating in the air that we breathe each day.
I'm at a loss to know how we are all here at times.......how did the previous generation manage to get through life eating their meat and two veg meals each day of the year!!!! ( sarcasm)
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Post by scrapsotime on Oct 26, 2015 17:44:59 GMT
I'm not even sure what is 'approved' to eat anymore, but I had bacon for dinner last night and it was really good.
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Post by dazeepetals on Oct 26, 2015 17:45:26 GMT
As always, if you over eat something, it can kill you. It's all about moderation. I don't think red, or processed meat once a week or less is going to cause cancer...but, what do I know. We will all die from one thing or another. I will not remove every little thing from my diet. It's silly. Actually they say 50 grams (which is roughly 3 slices of bacon) of processed meat per day is all it takes. They put it in the same category as asbestos and cigarettes as far as carcinogenic potential. Would you want to be exposed to asbestos once a week? Not trying to be inflammatory, but I just try to remove anything from my life that can cause cancer.
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 26, 2015 17:50:24 GMT
As always, if you over eat something, it can kill you. It's all about moderation. I don't think red, or processed meat once a week or less is going to cause cancer...but, what do I know. We will all die from one thing or another. I will not remove every little thing from my diet. It's silly. Actually they say 50 grams (which is roughly 3 slices of bacon) of processed meat per day is all it takes. They put it in the same category as asbestos and cigarettes as far as carcinogenic potential. Would you want to be exposed to asbestos once a week? Not trying to be inflammatory, but I just try to remove anything from my life that can cause cancer. I bolded a couple of words in your post. Not many (Yes, SOME do) people eat that much bacon every single day. What I said was MODERATION...meaning NOT every single day.
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 26, 2015 17:51:31 GMT
Not trying to be inflammatory, but I just try to remove anything from my life that can cause cancer. I bolded a couple of words in your post. Not many (Yes, SOME do) people eat that much bacon every single day. What I said was MODERATION...meaning NOT every single day. Also, if you do this, you will not be able to eat anything. Even eating clean can be bad, because most veggies have pesticides on them.
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Post by blondiec47 on Oct 26, 2015 18:15:46 GMT
I refuse to change my diet due to the scare of the month. When I was a kid butter was terrible for you and margarine was better-I could never understand that--a slab of something natural (well kind of) vs a slab of chemicals. Then it was never eat eggs they are bad, now they are fine as long as you don't binge on them. Moderation is the key--everything we breathe, drink or eat can cause cancer in someone.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 26, 2015 18:19:43 GMT
Maybe it is because my dad has already died of cancer, and my mom was recently diagnosed with cancer, but I am with Dazeepetals. Is my diet perfect at this point? No. But I am working to make changes to improve my overall health as well as reduce cancer. I have been reading for years that processed meats (like deli meat) have chemicals that are known carcinogens. We have really cut down on the amount of deli meat we eat, and I typically buy the nitrate/nitrite free versions (that are much more expensive, so don't buy them often).
I am reading "Anticancer" and the author talks about dietary changes that can reduce the risk of getting cancer (or having a recurrence). He sys to buy organic when possible, but even if you are buying non-organic, the benefits of the fruits and veggies outweigh the possible exposure to pesticides. I also use an organic fruit and veggie spray and hope that helps some.
I personally think that we need to start holding the food industry (including farmers) responsible for the health effects that their farming practices, additives in food, etc are causing.
As for previous generations not having health problems due to the food they ate...I don't think that is particularly true, but they also didn't have the same amount of chemicals in their food as what we do. Were the animals grass fed or grain fed (which changes the nutrient profile of the meat that we eat)? Were the pigs given ractopamine to make them grow quicker (and in turn make it so that the pigs can barely even walk)? Did they eat the same amount of processed foods as what are available now (with all kinds of artificial colors and flavors, GMO corn in everything, etc)?
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Post by georgiapea on Oct 26, 2015 18:34:54 GMT
I try to avoid bacon but sometimes it's just not possible for me to resist it.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 26, 2015 18:37:12 GMT
Studies show that nobody cares. Because, bacon.
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Post by **Angie** on Oct 26, 2015 18:41:57 GMT
I thought there would be a post or two but all I see is "bacon".....
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Post by scrapqueen01 on Oct 26, 2015 18:42:36 GMT
I had a great aunt who ate eggs, bacon coffee daily, cooked with lard, butter and saved bacon grease and smoked cigarettes. She died at 97 after falling and breaking her hip. I think genetics play a big role.
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Post by supersoda on Oct 26, 2015 18:47:39 GMT
I don't think this is the new scare of the week. There have been reports for years about the dangers of processed meats.
I'm convinced that diet played a key role in my beloved MIL's much too early death from colon cancer. She grew up poor and remained a penny-pincher throughout her life. Her meal planning was based on cost, rather than nutrition (which she was never well educated about), and as a result she ate a lot of processed meat (think hot dogs and Bologna) and not a lot of fresh veggies.
It seems rather obviously sensible that foods pumped full of chemicals aren't the best for you, although if you are eating bacon every day, there are likely more immediate effects than some nebulous risk of cancer looming in your future.
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Post by candygurl on Oct 26, 2015 18:50:54 GMT
Another reason im glad I'm vegetarian! Working on going vegan, just started this lifestyle a few months ago.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 26, 2015 18:52:24 GMT
I just only started reading the article, but the sub-title jumped out at me, and I hope they explain where they got their information from... the subtitle is: "the average American consumes about 18 lbs of bacon per year."
^^^ what I want to know is, who's eating our share? because neither my BF nor I eat anywhere NEAR this much bacon per year... we have 6 or 7 packages of it in the freezer right now (because it's so expensive to buy, so I get it when it's on sale), but we don't eat it very often at all.
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Post by jenb72 on Oct 26, 2015 18:56:59 GMT
They can have my bacon when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. In all sincerity, I agree with the ladies above. Moderation is key. I refuse to remove red meats, processed meats (including bacon) from my diet simply because it's this month's cancer scare. Jen
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 26, 2015 18:58:32 GMT
I just only started reading the article, but the sub-title jumped out at me, and I hope they explain where they got their information from... the subtitle is: "the average American consumes about 18 lbs of bacon per year."
^^^ what I want to know is, who's eating our share? because neither my BF nor I eat anywhere NEAR this much bacon per year... we have 6 or 7 packages of it in the freezer right now (because it's so expensive to buy, so I get it when it's on sale), but we don't eat it very often at all. I have maybe 4-5 pieces of bacon a year (and no/maybe 1 hot dog(s), bologna...), usually wrapped around a jalapeño. I eat beef about once a week/10 days tops.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 26, 2015 19:01:16 GMT
I do eat a lot of peameal bacon (that's Canadian bacon for those who aren't Canadian). It's just so yummy.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Oct 26, 2015 19:06:10 GMT
I eat red meat, bacon, and just happen to have asbestos in my basement (old house). All those people that never eat red meat, bacon and don't live in an asbestos laden old house that died younger than me... it's a crapshoot. I don't eat the bad stuff daily and the asbestos is encapsulated in place. You'll go when your time is up. I try not to tempt fate too much, but life is never guaranteed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 19:15:57 GMT
M'eh, it goes in cycles. People have been eating bacon, eggs, etc for 100+ years. 1,000+ years? Short of raising everything yourself, I'm sure just about everything we eat and drink these days "could" cause cancer.
And really, those who are eating 18 lbs a year are probably also consuming other stuff that is unhealthy. Of course they're going to get something. I don't think we even BUY 18 lbs a year, let alone eat that much. And here's my question - is 18 pounds the raw weight or the cooked weight? Because 18 pounds of raw bacon is not the same as 18 pounds of cooked bacon.
Now, the report about human DNA being found in hot dogs is more disturbing than the possibility of bacon causing cancer.
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Post by gar on Oct 26, 2015 19:17:39 GMT
Another reason im glad I'm vegetarian! Working on going vegan, just started this lifestyle a few months ago. Bizarrely I heard there is no overall reduction in the number of vegetarians who contract cancer.
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Post by Merge on Oct 26, 2015 19:17:54 GMT
One thing I've learned: you can eat right, exercise, etc. and still be mowed down by a drunk in a boat. I tend to think when your time is up, it's up, and it won't matter what you ate or how you lived.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 26, 2015 19:20:05 GMT
okay, so I tried googling the '18 lbs of bacon per year' thing and couldn't come up with an actual SOURCE for that number...
I did, however, find a really interesting Business Week article about the link between the health-conscious 'pork, the other white meat' campaign and the drop in pork-bellies futures (they practically had to give the stuff away, apparently) that ultimately led to the upswing in bacon. They were just looking for something to do with the stuff, and Hardee's came up with the idea to put a couple slices on a burger. And thus, the bacon revolution was born.
But I never could find any source for the 18 lbs per year statistic. (I think it's wrong, personally)
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 26, 2015 19:26:24 GMT
I am not a red meat eater, nor do I eat any pork (and that includes bacon.) But that doesn't mean that my diet is any better than those who do. I don't have any real great moral objections to the red meat/pork thing, I just don't like the taste.
There is a new study coming out about dairy fat where it the food pyramid people are going to revise the rules for drinking whole milk. They are now saying that whole milk is actually fine and there is something about the mix of fat, proteins and vitamins that make it the preferred milk to drink.
Point is, the rules change all the time. Every so often the prevailing thoughts are challenged and new studies suggest that the old thoughts should change. I suspect that a balanced and moderated approach is really the way to go.
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