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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 4:08:13 GMT
Also interesting is the fact that Tracie claims to abhor the site that was linked here, yet there have been several times that she has outed herself as a smack blog reader/poster by accidentally posting under her own username. Those posts are always quickly deleted, of course, but make no mistake that Tracie herself actively participates in the blog she is now acting victimized by. Tracie isn't the saint she wants everyone to believe she is. She was herself a "mean girl" on the old 2 peas. I've been on two peas for a long time and never ever got that vibe from Tracie. admin , maybe it would be best to delete this entire post? Like the one we had on the NSBR pointing us to this same site (I think it was the same one anyway). Another post from a 1 post wonder. Makes me wonder if there's another pea with the same IP address as gigibunbun.
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 19, 2016 4:50:16 GMT
Thank you coilstrand - I would appreciate this being deleted.
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 19, 2016 4:54:42 GMT
Believe what you will, Tracie, but I am not one of your haters. I'm not familiar with you as a crafter, and I certainly don't know you well enough to carry some kind of long standing grudge against you. I just found it funny that you accidentally posted under your own username at the smack blog and then quickly deleted your comment, only to come here and act like the victim of the same behavior that you were just engaging in. Why delete if you didn't mind owning what you said, especially if your comments were directed at your hater? It is really hypocritical of you to participate in a behavior and then complain when you are the subject of that behavior. inkedup - My behavior wasn't the same as the others. They are specifically targeting me because they hate me for no reason whatsoever. I've never done anything to them. I explained myself there which caused even more problems because I realize now, you can't reason with crazy people. I said exactly why I was posting. I was making a joke saying to the owner of the blog, "You see these people will turn on you too." because in the last thread, everyone was being so mean about there not being a new thread that even the owner of the blog was being smacked. It was just too funny to me. I deleted my original posts where I accidentally posted under my name because obviously I do not want people to know that I go there. It's a place filled with hate and crazy. I usually don't post. The one time I do, of course it bites me in the butt so lesson learned. The REASON that I do stop by there is because for almost two years, my hater regularly brings me up out of the blue and it's just out of morbid curiosity that I go by there to see what she says. I won't anymore. I've learned my lesson. I always laugh and tell my husband and besties what she's says and then we shake our heads and go, "She just must be a miserable human being." So my behavior was not hypocritical at all. I'm the only one with the balls to put my real name on there in defense of why it popped up in the first place. I could have just said nothing. I should have said nothing. But it was NOT hypocritical and I'm not complaining here. I didn't start this thread. I wish it hadn't of been started at all but I do have a right to speak on it since it is ABOUT ME. I have about 10,000 listens on my shows every week (sometimes more). I'm sure not going to be upset over a handful of people who hate me. It's disappointing...kind of makes me lose a little faith in humanity but I know it's not about me, it's about them. I haven't done ANYTHING to cause them to hate me. Haters just come with the territory I guess. There are meanies everywhere, even within our creative community which is unfortunate but true. If they would tell me something specifically that I've done, maybe I would understand it more. There's just no valid reason.
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 5:00:38 GMT
What an interesting first post. Interesting topic for sure, but not just for a "first post". I full on admit that this is an alternate ID. I have been a member here since inception, as well as being one of the first peas when the board started years and years ago. I have seen what the smackers do to people, Tracie is just one instance where they have permeated a person's existence, torn them down personally to the core, stalked them, harassed them, were so ugly, vile and mean, that it is just insane, so I refuse to post under my own persona because of that. I don't need some sociopath to call my employer, harass my family, and make up lies about me just because they can.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Jan 19, 2016 5:06:39 GMT
Tracie isn't the saint she wants everyone to believe she is. She was herself a "mean girl" on the old 2 peas. I've been on two peas for a long time and never ever got that vibe from Tracie. admin , maybe it would be best to delete this entire post? Like the one we had on the NSBR pointing us to this same site (I think it was the same one anyway). Another post from a 1 post wonder. Makes me wonder if there's another pea with the same IP address as gigibunbun. I have not felt any such vibe from Tracie either. With respect though, Tracie (and probably OP, thank you for being honest about the alter and I get your point) you have been around the industry and the board long enough to know that you don't feed the trolls. ETA: the trolls on the other site. No one here is being called a troll, I value the Refupeas. And FTR, not all of the readers and posters on the other site are trolls either!
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 19, 2016 5:12:31 GMT
I've been on two peas for a long time and never ever got that vibe from Tracie. admin , maybe it would be best to delete this entire post? Like the one we had on the NSBR pointing us to this same site (I think it was the same one anyway). Another post from a 1 post wonder. Makes me wonder if there's another pea with the same IP address as gigibunbun. I have not felt any such vibe from Tracie either. With respect though, Tracie (and probably OP, thank you for being honest about the alter and I get your point) you have been around the industry and the board long enough to know that you don't feed the trolls. ETA: the trolls on the other site. No one here is being called a troll, I value the Refupeas. I agree with you 100%.
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 5:25:34 GMT
This thread is not by Tracie. Unfortunately, Tracie just happened to be the flavor of the day for the smackers. It has become increasingly apparent that the smackers ARE HERE as well as on the smack blog. I did not post this to be all about Tracie by any means. Another unfortunate twist is that Tracie just keeps posting about it being about her and that was just not my total intent--it did not help her to go there and post under her own name and then delete, which is what drew attention to her in the first place. My OP was about people being mean, those same people that are HERE.
I am tired of the bullying. It's SC, AE, Jennifer McGuire, Nicole(s), KP, April, Tracie. The smackers were pulling from the refupeas, to make fun of and just terrorize people. The refupeas has been nice, even a nicer version of the old 2peas in a bucket. The people here are nicer, topics don't get the ugly vile stuff that went on there.
It was clear that those posting on the smack blog were posters here on refupeas (anonymous posters) which is why I even started the thread to begin with.
That smack blog may have had a purpose in the past, however they have gone way beyond what their original purpose was to be (which is why I knew about the smack blog to begin with). It used to be a place to complain about companies without being censored by the company. It has gone beyond that now. The smackers go after people in such a personal way, and it is just awful. To be that mean and ugly about someone you don't even know. I am sick of the bullying, lies and harassing of people. No one deserves what they do. Bringing their crap to light might be the way to just get them to stop. Why does it matter? Why not just ignore it? Because if you Google search any of these people they attack, and yes, they are attacking them, it shows up in the search. Again, no one deserves that. The lies that they tell need to stop.
Even here, mzzza111 mentions that "Tracie isn't the saint she wants everyone to believe she is. She was herself a "mean girl" on the old 2 peas."...well, what if people told you Ami, that you have been mean and complaining since 2007-8-9 about quite a few companies? What if they brought up all the complaints and vents and told you that you were not a nice person and started citing all the stuff you wrote about PTI? Then you moved onto complaining about SC? They would certainly label you a mean person too. What if people started saying that Ami from So.Cal is one of the anon posters on the smack blog, people would look at you/treat you differently knowing that, thinking that you were one of those ugly, vile people.
I don't know Tracie. I did not start the post for it to be solely about her, but she has owned that part. I don't know if Tracie was mean or not on 2peas, which ended what---2 years ago noW?
My point is that these smackers, who are even members here, dredge stuff up that happened YEARS AGO, as if it happened yesterday. 2 peas ended almost 2 years ago. A lot of the crap that the smackers attack with is solely personal about looks, life, family, deeply personal stuff that does not have anything to do with scrapbooking. They target, attack personally, you, your family, people you love all with their lies, vile behaviors.
Sorry that this was fragmented, I'm traveling between a few states today/tonight and trying to keep up with my thoughts on this.
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 19, 2016 5:52:15 GMT
You're right. Sorry if I offended you in any way. They've been talking about me for four days and although I would rather no one here be directed to that post...at least I did have a chance to say what I was thinking. But you're right, the smackers are out of control. I'm just the flavor of the week!
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Post by inkedup on Jan 19, 2016 8:52:57 GMT
What an interesting first post. Interesting topic for sure, but not just for a "first post". I full on admit that this is an alternate ID. I have been a member here since inception, as well as being one of the first peas when the board started years and years ago. I have seen what the smackers do to people, Tracie is just one instance where they have permeated a person's existence, torn them down personally to the core, stalked them, harassed them, were so ugly, vile and mean, that it is just insane, so I refuse to post under my own persona because of that. I don't need some sociopath to call my employer, harass my family, and make up lies about me just because they can. My goodness. This reads like a Lifetime movie. So much drama and intrigue. You seem to know an awful lot about the smack blog, especially since you never visit there....
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 13:10:40 GMT
Interesting topic for sure, but not just for a "first post". I full on admit that this is an alternate ID. I have been a member here since inception, as well as being one of the first peas when the board started years and years ago. I have seen what the smackers do to people, Tracie is just one instance where they have permeated a person's existence, torn them down personally to the core, stalked them, harassed them, were so ugly, vile and mean, that it is just insane, so I refuse to post under my own persona because of that. I don't need some sociopath to call my employer, harass my family, and make up lies about me just because they can. My goodness. This reads like a Lifetime movie. So much drama and intrigue. You seem to know an awful lot about the smack blog, especially since you never visit there.... [ br] Don't be coy (or insinuating) inkedup, I've never said that I haven't been there, it is obvious that I have. I actually mentioned that I did. I'm just not the brand of smacker that those people have become. Your post would have people believe that my postings here are nefarious or that I somehow lied or said something elsewhere, all of which are not true. I hate what those smackers do.
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Post by tracyarts on Jan 19, 2016 13:21:11 GMT
I will probably be one of the only people to admit this, but I read the smack blog on occasion and have even posted to it. I don't like the personal attacks and there are a lot of people who don't. What I do enjoy is the fact that there are, on occasion, good discussions about products, trends and what's going on in the industry. If it were actually about smacking on scrapbook industry bullshit, I'd be more interested. But I just can't stomach tearing people apart for sport.
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Post by iowgirl on Jan 19, 2016 14:54:20 GMT
I just listened to a ted talk radio podcast called If You Don't Have Anything Nice to Say that was mainly about trolls and mean people. A female comedian talked about a troll that she ended up confronting and actually interviewing. It was really interesting. It is more them than you. It was "This American Life" If You Don't Have Anything Nice to Say, SAY IT IN ALL CAPSIt is totally worth a listen. The comedian Lindy West talks about a troll who harassed her online. It is fascinating how he turned around and realized what he was doing. Everyone (and every Troll) should give it a listen! www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/545/if-you-dont-have-anything-nice-to-say-say-it-in-all-caps
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Post by mzza111 on Jan 19, 2016 15:27:58 GMT
gigibunbun Those are some interesting items you posted about me. Did you think you were posting "gotcha" stuff? I fully admit that I have complained about PTI. Those posts are out there for everyone to see. I've also posted on the smack blog. The difference between you and me is that I do it under my own ID. I will correct you on one thing, if SC is Studio Calico, then you are wrong, I've never posted anything about that company. I've never purchased their kits.
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 16:13:51 GMT
I just listened to a ted talk radio podcast called If You Don't Have Anything Nice to Say that was mainly about trolls and mean people. A female comedian talked about a troll that she ended up confronting and actually interviewing. It was really interesting. It is more them than you. It was "This American Life" If You Don't Have Anything Nice to Say, SAY IT IN ALL CAPSIt is totally worth a listen. The comedian Lindy West talks about a troll who harassed her online. It is fascinating how he turned around and realized what he was doing. Everyone (and every Troll) should give it a listen! www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/545/if-you-dont-have-anything-nice-to-say-say-it-in-all-capsGreat article, worth the read! (or listen to!)
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 16:42:31 GMT
gigibunbun Those are some interesting items you posted about me. Did you think you were posting "gotcha" stuff? I fully admit that I have complained about PTI. Those posts are out there for everyone to see. I've also posted on the smack blog. The difference between you and me is that I do it under my own ID. I will correct you on one thing, if SC is Studio Calico, then you are wrong, I've never posted anything about that company. I've never purchased their kits. Not at all a "gotcha moment" Ami. You posted those things, they are public. That is my point. Just because someone posts public complaints, likes, dislikes, does not make it right to open them up to full on personal bashing like the smackers have done. You posted that Tracie was "not a saint" and that she was "mean or not nice". So, with that said, your opinion of what constitutes being a saint or nice is up for interpretation. Many find people like Tracie, Jennifer McGuire, et al, delightful, friendly and helpful, others may not. One could use that same premise to decide that you were not so nice in threads from years ago, and start cutting you off at the knees, get so deeply personal in attacking you, just for the heck of it. You say that the "difference between you and me is that I do it under my own ID". That is not true either. You say you have posted on the smack blog, but you do it anonymously. You've brought direct postings from smack to the refupeas (Matt's post) that you "find interesting" stirring drama, again from YEARS ago. You boycotted SC because you suggested things to friends and they got caught up in a mess. I'm not hiding anything other than my ID because I have seen what smackers can and will do and what great lengths that they go to in lies and dramatics. My point here is that they sludge back through archives, spreadsheets, notes, whatever to drag these people back into what seems to be relevant smack. Here, we mostly have moniker's, nicknames, fun ID's that somewhat shield us and keep a little barrier from being totally known. It was not always this way, people used to use their real names in their ID or in part, but seeing over the years what some mean girls have done with tracking people down and ripping out their hearts in such a terrible way, people have gone to using some other ID. They attack those who do use their full names (otherwise, it would not be any fun for them) We shouldn't have to do this. I get the "don't feed the trolls" that we should not engage them, that it is all about them and not us/we/me, but the truth of the matter is that they are people HERE posting that ridiculously mean shit! Honestly, I admire Tracie for standing up to "them", it cannot be an easy thing to do, given how they react. If it were me, I would probably fall to pieces with someone attacking me like that! My point is that they are people. They are people HERE. NO ONE deserves the level of personal smacking that they are dishing out. The trolls there think that they have some authority or "one up" on the rest of the world. We are not punching bags for these people, and we should not be personally attacked into being silent. I wrote the OP because it was obvious that there were people from our "beloved" refupeas posting on the smack site, going back and forth with their attacks. My hope is that weeding it out, showing these refupeas who participate in that level of attacking or supporting it that there are real people with feelings attached to the other end of the insults, attacks, harassment might, just might make them think twice about doing it. If it is not such a "secret" and out in the open, then it gives them no where to turn.
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Post by KikiPea on Jan 19, 2016 17:03:48 GMT
What is the point of posting this deal here?
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 17:11:34 GMT
What is the point of posting this deal here? I've answered that a few times in my posts.
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Post by KikiPea on Jan 19, 2016 17:39:07 GMT
What is the point of posting this deal here? I've answered that a few times in my posts. I still don't think the link needed to be posted. If you have an issue with the site, why would you drag us all into it? I just think it was unnecessary. You can prove your point without posting the link to the crap. Most people who have posted links to those stupid blogs in a first post has ulterior motives, and it's annoying. Bringing it here is NOT going to make the RefuPeas that post there change their spots. If they like being mean, they will continue to do so. They always did on 2peas, so they will here. Nothing you can post will change that. They are just mean people with sad lives, and too much time on their hands. Let's not keep rehashing it. If you are a RefuPea with no ulterior motives, there is no reason to post under an alternate ID. Stand up for yourself, and others, by being yourself. Leave the past in the past
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Post by inkedup on Jan 19, 2016 17:50:59 GMT
My goodness. This reads like a Lifetime movie. So much drama and intrigue. You seem to know an awful lot about the smack blog, especially since you never visit there.... [ br] Don't be coy (or insinuating) inkedup, I've never said that I haven't been there, it is obvious that I have. I actually mentioned that I did. I'm just not the brand of smacker that those people have become. Your post would have people believe that my postings here are nefarious or that I somehow lied or said something elsewhere, all of which are not true. I hate what those smackers do. Thank you for making my point *for* me. You are stirring up just as much - if not more - drama as the smackers you're crusading against. You visit the blog and so does Tracie, and yet you are both here, talking about how evil all the *other* posters (who aren't you) are. I'm with Kiki. I don't think your intentions are innocent, and I think you're enjoying the drama you're creating because you can hide behind your supposedly pure intentions. Worse yet, you admit that you're doing exactly what you're calling people out for (posting anonymously because you don't want to own your words under your own ID), but you think what you're doing is okay because you're supposedly so terrified of the evil smackers. It's funny, too, that we're expected to take you and Tracie at your word when it comes to the smack blog. Of course you only read there because it is such an awful place, and of course you never post. And riiiiight. I totally believe that Tracie just happened to post and delete under her own ID a couple of times but otherwise never visits or posts to the blog. On the other hand, people like me, who admit that they read the blog and post there, aren't to be taken at our word that we don't engage in the name calling and personal bashing that has taken over the blog. You are aware of the fact that not every poster there engages in the personal attacks, right? Surely you noticed the scrap-related posts while you were clutching your pearls and reading the blog you think is so evil? Surely you saw the many posts from those of us that actually call the jerks on their jerky behavior? Not every person who posts there does it to bash another person. Finally, you really need to stop with the drama. Yes, there was one psycho that dug up Mrs. Tyler's employer and contacted them. And I think most people, Peas and Smaker Peas alike, were pretty universally horrified at the line that was crossed. Stop acting like Peas are being doxxed on a daily basis and stop acting like the smack blog is destroying lives. You aren't going to save the world one smack blog at a time, and I doubt that's what your intentions were when you brought this here, anyway.
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Post by mzza111 on Jan 19, 2016 18:28:45 GMT
gigibunbun Those are some interesting items you posted about me. Did you think you were posting "gotcha" stuff? I fully admit that I have complained about PTI. Those posts are out there for everyone to see. I've also posted on the smack blog. The difference between you and me is that I do it under my own ID. I will correct you on one thing, if SC is Studio Calico, then you are wrong, I've never posted anything about that company. I've never purchased their kits. Not at all a "gotcha moment" Ami. You posted those things, they are public. That is my point. Just because someone posts public complaints, likes, dislikes, does not make it right to open them up to full on personal bashing like the smackers have done. You posted that Tracie was "not a saint" and that she was "mean or not nice". So, with that said, your opinion of what constitutes being a saint or nice is up for interpretation. Many find people like Tracie, Jennifer McGuire, et al, delightful, friendly and helpful, others may not. One could use that same premise to decide that you were not so nice in threads from years ago, and start cutting you off at the knees, get so deeply personal in attacking you, just for the heck of it. You say that the "difference between you and me is that I do it under my own ID". That is not true either. You say you have posted on the smack blog, but you do it anonymously. You've brought direct postings from smack to the refupeas (Matt's post) that you "find interesting" stirring drama, again from YEARS ago. You boycotted SC because you suggested things to friends and they got caught up in a mess. I'm not hiding anything other than my ID because I have seen what smackers can and will do and what great lengths that they go to in lies and dramatics. My point here is that they sludge back through archives, spreadsheets, notes, whatever to drag these people back into what seems to be relevant smack. Here, we mostly have moniker's, nicknames, fun ID's that somewhat shield us and keep a little barrier from being totally known. It was not always this way, people used to use their real names in their ID or in part, but seeing over the years what some mean girls have done with tracking people down and ripping out their hearts in such a terrible way, people have gone to using some other ID. They attack those who do use their full names (otherwise, it would not be any fun for them) We shouldn't have to do this. I get the "don't feed the trolls" that we should not engage them, that it is all about them and not us/we/me, but the truth of the matter is that they are people HERE posting that ridiculously mean shit! Honestly, I admire Tracie for standing up to "them", it cannot be an easy thing to do, given how they react. If it were me, I would probably fall to pieces with someone attacking me like that! My point is that they are people. They are people HERE. NO ONE deserves the level of personal smacking that they are dishing out. The trolls there think that they have some authority or "one up" on the rest of the world. We are not punching bags for these people, and we should not be personally attacked into being silent. I wrote the OP because it was obvious that there were people from our "beloved" refupeas posting on the smack site, going back and forth with their attacks. My hope is that weeding it out, showing these refupeas who participate in that level of attacking or supporting it that there are real people with feelings attached to the other end of the insults, attacks, harassment might, just might make them think twice about doing it. If it is not such a "secret" and out in the open, then it gives them no where to turn. Haha! If the red bolded isn't the pot calling the kettle black! You've sure pulled out a lot of specifics...for someone so concerned about other keeping spreadsheets and sludging thru the past.
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 20:28:43 GMT
[ br] Don't be coy (or insinuating) inkedup, I've never said that I haven't been there, it is obvious that I have. I actually mentioned that I did. I'm just not the brand of smacker that those people have become. Your post would have people believe that my postings here are nefarious or that I somehow lied or said something elsewhere, all of which are not true. I hate what those smackers do. Thank you for making my point *for* me. You are stirring up just as much - if not more - drama as the smackers you're crusading against. You visit the blog and so does Tracie, and yet you are both here, talking about how evil all the *other* posters (who aren't you) are. I'm with Kiki. I don't think your intentions are innocent, and I think you're enjoying the drama you're creating because you can hide behind your supposedly pure intentions. Worse yet, you admit that you're doing exactly what you're calling people out for (posting anonymously because you don't want to own your words under your own ID), but you think what you're doing is okay because you're supposedly so terrified of the evil smackers. It's funny, too, that we're expected to take you and Tracie at your word when it comes to the smack blog. Of course you only read there because it is such an awful place, and of course you never post. And riiiiight. I totally believe that Tracie just happened to post and delete under her own ID a couple of times but otherwise never visits or posts to the blog. On the other hand, people like me, who admit that they read the blog and post there, aren't to be taken at our word that we don't engage in the name calling and personal bashing that has taken over the blog. You are aware of the fact that not every poster there engages in the personal attacks, right? Surely you noticed the scrap-related posts while you were clutching your pearls and reading the blog you think is so evil? Surely you saw the many posts from those of us that actually call the jerks on their jerky behavior? Not every person who posts there does it to bash another person. Finally, you really need to stop with the drama. Yes, there was one psycho that dug up Mrs. Tyler's employer and contacted them. And I think most people, Peas and Smaker Peas alike, were pretty universally horrified at the line that was crossed. Stop acting like Peas are being doxxed on a daily basis and stop acting like the smack blog is destroying lives. You aren't going to save the world one smack blog at a time, and I doubt that's what your intentions were when you brought this here, anyway.
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 20:37:38 GMT
[ br] Don't be coy (or insinuating) inkedup, I've never said that I haven't been there, it is obvious that I have. I actually mentioned that I did. I'm just not the brand of smacker that those people have become. Your post would have people believe that my postings here are nefarious or that I somehow lied or said something elsewhere, all of which are not true. I hate what those smackers do. Thank you for making my point *for* me. You are stirring up just as much - if not more - drama as the smackers you're crusading against. You visit the blog and so does Tracie, and yet you are both here, talking about how evil all the *other* posters (who aren't you) are. I'm with Kiki. I don't think your intentions are innocent, and I think you're enjoying the drama you're creating because you can hide behind your supposedly pure intentions. Worse yet, you admit that you're doing exactly what you're calling people out for (posting anonymously because you don't want to own your words under your own ID), but you think what you're doing is okay because you're supposedly so terrified of the evil smackers. It's funny, too, that we're expected to take you and Tracie at your word when it comes to the smack blog. Of course you only read there because it is such an awful place, and of course you never post. And riiiiight. I totally believe that Tracie just happened to post and delete under her own ID a couple of times but otherwise never visits or posts to the blog. On the other hand, people like me, who admit that they read the blog and post there, aren't to be taken at our word that we don't engage in the name calling and personal bashing that has taken over the blog. You are aware of the fact that not every poster there engages in the personal attacks, right? Surely you noticed the scrap-related posts while you were clutching your pearls and reading the blog you think is so evil? Surely you saw the many posts from those of us that actually call the jerks on their jerky behavior? Not every person who posts there does it to bash another person. Finally, you really need to stop with the drama. Yes, there was one psycho that dug up Mrs. Tyler's employer and contacted them. And I think most people, Peas and Smaker Peas alike, were pretty universally horrified at the line that was crossed. Stop acting like Peas are being doxxed on a daily basis and stop acting like the smack blog is destroying lives. You aren't going to save the world one smack blog at a time, and I doubt that's what your intentions were when you brought this here, anyway. THANK YOU for showing your colors, you sound EXACTLY like a few of those not very nice posters. I have no ulterior motives, you'll have to take me at my word for that, just like you want people to take your word for not being "one of those" smackers. I said my reason for posting, and it is true. When you say that you are horrified and a line was crossed on the behavior of the smackers (regarding Mrs Tyler) and you continue to participate and support it giving it attention, as one of the anonymous ones, when all are anonymous--then you all become one. That blog stopped being "scrap related" a long while ago. I hate that blog, don't post there anymore since it has become such a cesspool of personal attacking. I figured that if I kept posting, supporting that ugliness by even posting to it, then I was no better than any of them, because it keeps that blog alive. It CAN start with one voice to stop that madness. (I don't think I am alone in my belief either) You don't think smack hurts people, then you are an ice cube. There are people, real people attached to the vile things that they say there. Those people have feelings and do not deserve the crap that they spout off.
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gigibunbun
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 20:43:58 GMT
and inkedup & mzza111 you keep posting that I never read or have posted there. I have, however I have not posted there in a while because of the awfulness in the personal attacks of the majority of the people who are there. I started reading there and posting when it was really about the products and companies. You can be all proud of yourselves for saying that you still read and post there, giving your support to that place if you like.
My posts here have not been to hurt anyone, smack on anyone or anything nefarious. I posted to ask why those personal attacks have to happen and that it was obvious that refupeas are posting some of it there.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jan 19, 2016 21:42:53 GMT
Interesting that this is your first post, gigibun. Also interesting is the fact that Tracie claims to abhor the site that was linked here, yet there have been several times that she has outed herself as a smack blog reader/poster by accidentally posting under her own username. Those posts are always quickly deleted, of course, but make no mistake that Tracie herself actively participates in the blog she is now acting victimized by. I will probably be one of the only people to admit this, but I read the smack blog on occasion and have even posted to it. I don't like the personal attacks and there are a lot of people who don't. What I do enjoy is the fact that there are, on occasion, good discussions about products, trends and what's going on in the industry. I have to say I agree. I don't read over there and post over there, ever, (except for today's "helpful" little link, I was curious) but Tracie, you look really bad outing yourself by posting over there at all. Seriously, you claim to be above it, but you are right there in the mix. If you are 'there' because you are doing research for your podcast, then so be it, but don't act all outraged about being smacked yourself. Oy vey. I'll still listen to your podcast on occasion but come on. This seems to have taken over your life.
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Post by LeaP on Jan 19, 2016 22:02:11 GMT
It is much better here than at the old 2peas. Making an alias, posting an inflammatory subject line and continuing to post anonymously makes you part of the problem. Just be yourself and the truth will set you free.
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 19, 2016 22:10:58 GMT
Interesting that this is your first post, gigibun. Also interesting is the fact that Tracie claims to abhor the site that was linked here, yet there have been several times that she has outed herself as a smack blog reader/poster by accidentally posting under her own username. Those posts are always quickly deleted, of course, but make no mistake that Tracie herself actively participates in the blog she is now acting victimized by. I will probably be one of the only people to admit this, but I read the smack blog on occasion and have even posted to it. I don't like the personal attacks and there are a lot of people who don't. What I do enjoy is the fact that there are, on occasion, good discussions about products, trends and what's going on in the industry. I have to say I agree. I don't read over there and post over there, ever, (except for today's "helpful" little link, I was curious) but Tracie, you look really bad outing yourself by posting over there at all. Seriously, you claim to be above it, but you are right there in the mix. If you are 'there' because you are doing research for your podcast, then so be it, but don't act all outraged about being smacked yourself. Oy vey. I'll still listen to your podcast on occasion but come on. This seems to have taken over your life. It seems to have taken over my life? It hasn't taken over my life at all. I do reserve the right to comment here if I so choose but it certainly has not stolen my joy or taken over my life. Yvonne, you are correct on one point...I shouldn't have been there at all but as I have stated REPEATEDLY, I did look sometimes to see what was being said about me. You can sit there and say all day that you would never respond if lies were being said about you for two years but you don't know how it would feel. Trust me. It doesn't upset me but it's DISTRACTING. I'm sure that's what my haters intend. I read it and then move on. It's not like I dwell on it but for this to go on for five days now is ridiculous. I don't know where you got that I was there doing "research for my podcast." I've never uttered those words. I certainly don't listen to that group of haters for anything I say on my shows. I highly doubt any of them even still create on a regular basis. Please don't listen to any of my podcasts if you're going to feel it entitles you to tell me how to live. I have enough critics and I have enough people who genuinely like me that I don't need to worry about those who don't. I know that kills my haters and they would like to believe I'm sitting at home crying for the last five days but that's simply not the case. A friend even said last night she would be upset by it at this point and the gist of my reply was, "Like I'm gonna let a handful of haters ruin my day? Not hardly!"
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 19, 2016 22:23:45 GMT
And furthermore....if one person, like yourself Yvonne, reads any of the crap/lies/smack or conversation here or there and then decides to not follow or listen to me...that's 100% okay. I would prefer that they didn't listen and then criticize me because I AM going to be myself. I am not going to bend to the haters whims and change who I am one whit for them. I am successful at what I do because I am genuinely passionate about memory keeping and inspiring others to tell their stories. If people want to listen to what I have to say, that's great. If they don't, that's fine too! I have never expected everyone to like me. I'm smarter than that. I have a core group of very loyal listeners. Their kindness to me makes me cry tears of joy almost every day.
I started my first show just for fun and to my delight and joy it turned into an avenue of income for me but I have no ambition of being a "scrap celeb." I am just doing what I love and people who like me can either come along with me or not.
As far as defending myself goes, I will not apologize for that. One reason the main hater hates me is because I won't take her crap and she knows it. She commented on my blog anonymously for weeks telling me how I should change myself to suit her wishes and I shut her down and even addressed it in the show. But now I won't know if she says anything about me or not because I've made a decision to not go there again. So hater...go on and hate....make yourself feel real good and happy running me down. I hope it brings you great joy to fill up that hole in your heart. The sad part is, it really won't.
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gigibunbun
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 22:39:19 GMT
It is much better here than at the old 2peas. Making an alias, posting an inflammatory subject line and continuing to post anonymously makes you part of the problem. Just be yourself and the truth will set you free. Inflammatory subject line??? Are you kidding? Smackers don't care about truth, my ID will remain anonymous for this thread. Thank you. I have seen what they do and what they are capable of and I don't need that. I will repeat that my posting was not meant to be nefarious in anyway.
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gigibunbun
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Post by gigibunbun on Jan 19, 2016 22:43:41 GMT
And furthermore....if one person, like yourself Yvonne, reads any of the crap/lies/smack or conversation here or there and then decides to not follow or listen to me...that's 100% okay. I would prefer that they didn't listen and then criticize me because I AM going to be myself. I am not going to bend to the haters whims and change who I am one whit for them. I am successful at what I do because I am genuinely passionate about memory keeping and inspiring others to tell their stories. If people want to listen to what I have to say, that's great. If they don't, that's fine too! I have never expected everyone to like me. I'm smarter than that. I have a core group of very loyal listeners. Their kindness to me makes me cry tears of joy almost every day. I started my first show just for fun and to my delight and joy it turned into an avenue of income for me but I have no ambition of being a "scrap celeb." I am just doing what I love and people who like me can either come along with me or not. As far as defending myself goes, I will not apologize for that. One reason the main hater hates me is because I won't take her crap and she knows it. She commented on my blog anonymously for weeks telling me how I should change myself to suit her wishes and I shut her down and even addressed it in the show. But now I won't know if she says anything about me or not because I've made a decision to not go there again. So hater...go on and hate....make yourself feel real good and happy running me down. I hope it brings you great joy to fill up that hole in your heart. The sad part is, it really won't. Thank you Tracie for standing up to them. I am truly sorry that they have attached themselves onto you like a rabid dog with a bone. I did not mean for this thread to be about you, I posted because I noticed that smackers were a few refupeas and that bothered me very much. Call me naive, or stupid to think that it would make a difference in bringing their behavior to light here, my intent was to rip off the band aid and have their little clandestine clique exposed for what they really are--Mean Girl Bullies.
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Post by TracieClaiborne on Jan 19, 2016 22:53:27 GMT
I understand and I'm not mad at you gigibunbun. It's just an unfortunate series of events perpetuated by truly hateful, small minded, intolerant bullies.
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