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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jan 29, 2016 2:35:03 GMT
Dh gets a bonus about once a month (normally the 1st pay of the month). This one was a decent sized one. But that must have put him in a much higher tax bracket. There was 3x the amount taken out for this check.
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Post by littlemama on Jan 29, 2016 2:57:24 GMT
And if it's due back to him, he will get it at the end of the year. He can also change his tax withholdings for the rest of the year to try to even it out sooner. Not sure complaining about a huge bonus is going to garner a lot of sympathy.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 29, 2016 3:01:14 GMT
And if it's due back to him, he will get it at the end of the year. He can also change his tax withholdings for the rest of the year to try to even it out sooner. Not sure complaining about a huge bonus is going to garner a lot of sympathy. I don't think she was complaining about a huge bonus. She was complaining about all the taxes being taken it out. OP, it does suck when you get a bonus and a large chunk goes to taxes. We've had to pay in most years so we don't get it back and it may not lower our tax debt if it kicks us up into a high bracket. |
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jan 29, 2016 3:15:59 GMT
And if it's due back to him, he will get it at the end of the year. He can also change his tax withholdings for the rest of the year to try to even it out sooner. Not sure complaining about a huge bonus is going to garner a lot of sympathy. First, I never said it was a huge bonus. I said it was a decent one (big difference to me). Second, I was venting my frustration of the amount of taxes taken out of the overall paycheck because of this bonus. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 3:28:51 GMT
Dh gets a bonus about once a month (normally the 1st pay of the month). This one was a decent sized one. But that must have put him in a much higher tax bracket. There was 3x the amount taken out for this check. I agree and sympathize. |
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Post by milocat on Jan 29, 2016 3:40:06 GMT
Every year when I write our guys their Christmas bonus cheques and then figure out their deductions I think YIKES! It's not like getting 2 smaller bonuses would help and if they are owed anything back of course it will work out at the end of the year but still. Bonuses = a blessing and a curse.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 29, 2016 3:45:34 GMT
I agree. My mom has struggled financially the last couple of years and we thought things were finally looking up when she got a raise this last year. Surprise, surprise she's now bringing home $75 less per month because her raise bumped her tax bracket up. It sucks.
I started doing my 2015 tax return last night and even though I have a low income for my state I'll be lucky to break even.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jan 29, 2016 3:58:33 GMT
I loved getting bonuses. Till I got my check and cussed at the taxes taken out. Its frustrating.
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Post by mlynn on Jan 29, 2016 4:03:47 GMT
The tax tables are built considering the amount of pay for a time frame. When you have bonuses, it bumps you higher up in the table resulting in more tax being taken out. If you are paid once a month, the table assumes every month you will make the same amount. That is why the amount seems so disproportional. For instance, say you gross $5,000 z month - $60,000 per year. You get a $1,000 bonus. The tax withholding table assumes you gross $72,000 per year. The total tax estimation is based on that amount and then divided by 12 to compute your withholding for the period.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 29, 2016 4:11:54 GMT
I agree. My mom has struggled financially the last couple of years and we thought things were finally looking up when she got a raise this last year. Surprise, surprise she's now bringing home $75 less per month because her raise bumped her tax bracket up. It sucks. I started doing my 2015 tax return last night and even though I have a low income for my state I'll be lucky to break even. Tax brackets don't work that way. Something else must have changed with her paycheck (different retirement contribution, health insurance etc or was there an increase in your state taxes?) or there's an error in her withholding. When you bump up to a new bracket it ONLY impacts the income at the higher bracket. So you still pay 10% on your first $9275 of income when you "bump up" to the 15% bracket. You ONLY pay 15% on the amount you earn OVER $9,275 for example. I'd look closer at her paystub. |
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 29, 2016 4:13:39 GMT
I agree. My mom has struggled financially the last couple of years and we thought things were finally looking up when she got a raise this last year. Surprise, surprise she's now bringing home $75 less per month because her raise bumped her tax bracket up. It sucks. I started doing my 2015 tax return last night and even though I have a low income for my state I'll be lucky to break even. Tax brackets don't work that way. Something else must have changed with her paycheck (different retirement contribution, health insurance etc or was there an increase in your state taxes?) or there's an error in her withholding. When you bump up to a new bracket it ONLY impacts the income at the higher bracket. So you still pay 10% on your first $9275 of income when you "bump up" to the 15% bracket. You ONLY pay 15% on the amount you earn OVER $9,275 for example. I'd look closer at her paystub. Thanks, that's helpful to know. She questioned her HR about it and that is what they told her. But who knows what actually happened. |
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Post by beaglemom on Jan 29, 2016 4:50:02 GMT
Dh gets a bonus about once a month (normally the 1st pay of the month). This one was a decent sized one. But that must have put him in a much higher tax bracket. There was 3x the amount taken out for this check. Check that it was all taxes. Dh get a bonus in January, say it's 700, about 230 gets deposited, the rest goes between taxes and contributions to his 401k. It's nice he maxes out regular 401k contributions at some point during the summer, so bring home pay goes up at some point during the summer. |
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Post by ~summer~ on Jan 29, 2016 5:23:08 GMT
Dh gets a bonus about once a month (normally the 1st pay of the month). This one was a decent sized one. But that must have put him in a much higher tax bracket. There was 3x the amount taken out for this check. Check that it was all taxes. Dh get a bonus in January, say it's 700, about 230 gets deposited, the rest goes between taxes and contributions to his 401k. It's nice he maxes out regular 401k contributions at some point during the summer, so bring home pay goes up at some point during the summer. If your dh has employee matching for 401k then it's better to not max out over the summer - you lose that matching for half the year. I decrease my percent so I get the matching every month of the year. |
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Post by beaglemom on Jan 29, 2016 5:55:50 GMT
Check that it was all taxes. Dh get a bonus in January, say it's 700, about 230 gets deposited, the rest goes between taxes and contributions to his 401k. It's nice he maxes out regular 401k contributions at some point during the summer, so bring home pay goes up at some point during the summer. If your dh has employee matching for 401k then it's better to not max out over the summer - you lose that matching for half the year. I decrease my percent so I get the matching every month of the year. That doesn't make sense. He has a certain amount that he can contribute to his 401k every year, his company matches a certain percentage of that total amount, regardless of when it happens. Unless I'm missing something. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 6:43:37 GMT
The tax tables are built considering the amount of pay for a time frame. When you have bonuses, it bumps you higher up in the table resulting in more tax being taken out. If you are paid once a month, the table assumes every month you will make the same amount. That is why the amount seems so disproportional. For instance, say you gross $5,000 z month - $60,000 per year. You get a $1,000 bonus. The tax withholding table assumes you gross $72,000 per year. The total tax estimation is based on that amount and then divided by 12 to compute your withholding for the period. I wish more people understood this. You don't actually pay more taxes on bonuses. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 6:48:43 GMT
Check that it was all taxes. Dh get a bonus in January, say it's 700, about 230 gets deposited, the rest goes between taxes and contributions to his 401k. It's nice he maxes out regular 401k contributions at some point during the summer, so bring home pay goes up at some point during the summer. If your dh has employee matching for 401k then it's better to not max out over the summer - you lose that matching for half the year. I decrease my percent so I get the matching every month of the year. This varies from company to company. My employer matches up to 6% of your total compensation. It doesn't matter when you do or don't contribute - if your contributions over the year total 6% of your total compensation, you get the full match. |
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jan 29, 2016 6:54:37 GMT
I agree. My mom has struggled financially the last couple of years and we thought things were finally looking up when she got a raise this last year. Surprise, surprise she's now bringing home $75 less per month because her raise bumped her tax bracket up. It sucks. I started doing my 2015 tax return last night and even though I have a low income for my state I'll be lucky to break even. uhhhh, yeah. You don't know how taxes work. I'm thinking that's a pervasive problem on this board though so you're in good company. What else can one expect from a bunch of SAHMs? |
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Jan 29, 2016 6:56:53 GMT
Dh gets a bonus about once a month (normally the 1st pay of the month). This one was a decent sized one. But that must have put him in a much higher tax bracket. There was 3x the amount taken out for this check. again, you need to figure out how taxes work. I doubt it was all taxes. This is January so there were probably increases in health care and life insurance premiums too. Go line by line and compare the differences between this check and the ones from December. |
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jan 29, 2016 11:07:46 GMT
The tax tables are built considering the amount of pay for a time frame. When you have bonuses, it bumps you higher up in the table resulting in more tax being taken out. If you are paid once a month, the table assumes every month you will make the same amount. That is why the amount seems so disproportional. For instance, say you gross $5,000 z month - $60,000 per year. You get a $1,000 bonus. The tax withholding table assumes you gross $72,000 per year. The total tax estimation is based on that amount and then divided by 12 to compute your withholding for the period. I was going to post this. The excess taxes will likely come back to you since the overall actual income is less. Better they assume the higher rate and you get refund than assume the lower and you pay huge. I am not a tax expert, but you really are not getting hit as hard as you think. |
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Post by hop2 on Jan 29, 2016 12:01:00 GMT
Also don't forget since its January again they've started over with social security and unemployment ins. So that might add to the amount taken out.
Many people max out on the fall and then when it begins again in January it's a surprise
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jan 29, 2016 13:00:59 GMT
Dh gets a bonus about once a month (normally the 1st pay of the month). This one was a decent sized one. But that must have put him in a much higher tax bracket. There was 3x the amount taken out for this check. again, you need to figure out how taxes work. I doubt it was all taxes. This is January so there were probably increases in health care and life insurance premiums too. Go line by line and compare the differences between this check and the ones from December. We do not have any deductions from his check. Our health insurance is not through his work. He has set-up a 401K through them. It's all pay and taxes. So nothing changed there. I have both the Jan 15 paystub and this one for Feb 1 pulled up. The taxes taken out are 3x the amount this time than last time. |
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Post by peaname on Jan 29, 2016 13:03:05 GMT
When a large annual bonus was part of my DH's salary package he would go in and adjust his withholding by adding ten more dependents right before the bonus paid out and then put it back to minimize the taxes taken out. You don't have to claim the 'right' number of dependents you can adjust as needed.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Jan 29, 2016 13:05:30 GMT
If your dh has employee matching for 401k then it's better to not max out over the summer - you lose that matching for half the year. I decrease my percent so I get the matching every month of the year. That doesn't make sense. He has a certain amount that he can contribute to his 401k every year, his company matches a certain percentage of that total amount, regardless of when it happens. Unless I'm missing something. Depends on how their plan document is written. It may either be done on a payroll basis, or on a yearly basis. Sounds like yours is on a yearly basis, where beaglemom's is on a payroll basis. |
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jan 29, 2016 13:25:31 GMT
When a large annual bonus was part of my DH's salary package he would go in and adjust his withholding by adding ten more dependents right before the bonus paid out and then put it back to minimize the taxes taken out. You don't have to claim the 'right' number of dependents you can adjust as needed. I used to do that twice a year when I worked. We got paid every other week. About twice a year, there were 3 pay periods in a month. So on that 3rd pay, we'd go in an up our dependents. I'm not sure it would be that easy for dh. I just did mine online through our system. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 14:02:57 GMT
And if it's due back to him, he will get it at the end of the year. He can also change his tax withholdings for the rest of the year to try to even it out sooner. Not sure complaining about a huge bonus is going to garner a lot of sympathy. Bonuses are used to incite employees to work hard and achieve company goals. It is very discouraging to work really hard, achieve those results, get a bonus check and see just how much in taxes are taken out. Our bonus is paid in March. We automatically have 37% federal taxes taken out because it is noted to the IRS as a pure bonus payment that is separate from normal salary. Changing the tax withholdings for the bonus payment does nothing but delay what I end up paying at the end of the year because the bonus (counted as income) puts me into a higher tax bracket. It bites. @op - you have my sympathy. |
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Post by melanell on Jan 29, 2016 14:10:55 GMT
And if it's due back to him, he will get it at the end of the year. He can also change his tax withholdings for the rest of the year to try to even it out sooner. Not sure complaining about a huge bonus is going to garner a lot of sympathy. First, I never said it was a huge bonus. I said it was a decent one (big difference to me). Second, I was venting my frustration of the amount of taxes taken out of the overall paycheck because of this bonus. I won a cash prize at work once, and when the taxes for that puppy hit my check it was painful to see. I knew it was coming, and I had set aside some of my winnings to cover when it did happen, but it still hurt a bit to see it.  |
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Post by littlemama on Jan 29, 2016 14:23:42 GMT
And if it's due back to him, he will get it at the end of the year. He can also change his tax withholdings for the rest of the year to try to even it out sooner. Not sure complaining about a huge bonus is going to garner a lot of sympathy. Bonuses are used to incite employees to work hard and achieve company goals. It is very discouraging to work really hard, achieve those results, get a bonus check and see just how much in taxes are taken out. Our bonus is paid in March. We automatically have 37% federal taxes taken out because it is noted to the IRS as a pure bonus payment that is separate from normal salary. Changing the tax withholdings for the bonus payment does nothing but delay what I end up paying at the end of the year because the bonus (counted as income) puts me into a higher tax bracket. It bites. @op - you have my sympathy. The supplemental tax rate is 25%. If your payroll department is taking 37%, they are not doing it right. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 29, 2016 14:37:56 GMT
Bonuses are used to incite employees to work hard and achieve company goals. It is very discouraging to work really hard, achieve those results, get a bonus check and see just how much in taxes are taken out. Our bonus is paid in March. We automatically have 37% federal taxes taken out because it is noted to the IRS as a pure bonus payment that is separate from normal salary. Changing the tax withholdings for the bonus payment does nothing but delay what I end up paying at the end of the year because the bonus (counted as income) puts me into a higher tax bracket. It bites. @op - you have my sympathy. The supplemental tax rate is 25%. If your payroll department is taking 37%, they are not doing it right. They're probably using the aggregate method and annualizing the bonus and regular pay puts them in a much higher bracket. |
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Post by scrappinmama on Jan 29, 2016 14:38:41 GMT
Also don't forget since its January again they've started over with social security and unemployment ins. So that might add to the amount taken out. Many people max out on the fall and then when it begins again in January it's a surprise I was thinking the same thing. It's something that people forget about. |
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Post by littlemama on Jan 29, 2016 15:02:33 GMT
Also don't forget since its January again they've started over with social security and unemployment ins. So that might add to the amount taken out. Many people max out on the fall and then when it begins again in January it's a surprise I was thinking the same thing. It's something that people forget about. Unemployment taxes are paid by the employer, not the employee, so that would have no effect on take home pay. The majority of people also do not max out on FICA-SS, the limit for that is higher than most people earn. |
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