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Post by calgal08 on Mar 26, 2016 21:08:53 GMT
Dh is Jewish (I'm not), but wasn't raised in a religious home; therefore, he's no help re. Passover.
We've been invited to join a family to celebrate Passover and I've zero clue as to what to expect. Hoping the all-knowing Peas can help me.
Do I offer to take food? What's an appropriate gift for the host/hostess? Can we take regular wine or do I need to buy something special? What do we wear (it's just us and the host family, we're very casual, the other family is much more conservative than us, Dad always wears dress-type pants and button down shirt)? The Mom said she has some fun tricks to teach the story to the kids, whatever that means. I'd really like to prep. my boys before the day, I'd hate them to say something inappropriate. Are special foods served? Geez, I hope gvelte fish isn't one of them!
When I asked dh the above his response was "you're asking the wrong Jew"
Help!
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 26, 2016 21:11:46 GMT
I would think they would decline food as I am thinking your kitchen is not kosher.
There is kosher wine out there,my local liquor store has a section
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Post by lucyg on Mar 26, 2016 21:22:07 GMT
They could be personally conservative and still be very casual Jews. I would call the mom and ask these questions, because there's so much variation within the community. They could keep Kosher or maybe not at all. I was raised maybe a couple of steps more observant than your DH, but not much. We did a Seder every year, but it certainly wasn't Kosher in any serious sense. I mean, we didn't serve pork, but we also didn't buy Kosher meat or use special dishes. We didn't use Kosher wine, either. We didn't keep Kosher at all in my home. And I actually like gefilte fish! A little bit goes a long way.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 26, 2016 21:22:18 GMT
I was invited to share a Passover meal with my friends a couple of years ago. Very specific foods are served.
As it is time to eat each food, a "script" is read. Each person was given a little pamphlet to follow along. Different guests at the meal read a paragraph or two. (To my surprise, I was invited to read.) IIRC, it is part of the story of the Jewish people and the reason for Passover.
At the end of the meal, the children are invited to look for ?? (I'll have to go find what that is). This involved the kids under age 10, I think.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 26, 2016 21:24:39 GMT
Here are some links for you www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-symbolic-foods-at-a-passover-seder.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_SederFamilies will follow the Haggadah's lead by asking their own questions at various points in the Haggadah and offering prizes such as nuts and candies for correct answers. The afikoman, which is hidden away for the "dessert" after the meal, is another device used to encourage children's participation. In some families, the leader of the Seder hides the afikoman and the children must find it, whereupon they receive a prize or reward. In other homes, the children hide the afikoman and a parent must look for it; when the parents give up, the children demand a prize (often money) for revealing its location.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 26, 2016 21:26:31 GMT
Also, I would go to the bookstore and look for a children's book about Passover. I know your boys are older, but that would give you all a quick overview of what's happening. One more thing: matzoh spread with butter makes a fantastic tea time snack. The matzoh at Trader Joe's (imported from Israel) is the best. And matzoh ball soup rocks. Add a little chopped fresh parsley to your matzoh balls, even if the recipe doesn't call for it.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 26, 2016 21:29:40 GMT
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Post by anxiousmom on Mar 26, 2016 21:33:34 GMT
I have a friend who is Jewish (and keeps kosher) and I always wish that she would invite me to Passover dinner. We aren't good enough friends that I can invite myself though.
In some ways, I am the single most unsophisticated boob on the face of the planet and while I know a little about what would happen, I would love to be a participant so I can learn more.
Is that weird?
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Post by librarylady on Mar 26, 2016 21:38:19 GMT
One year our church had a Seder supper. A rabbi came and guided us through the meal. We had a script, but it had been tweaked because we are Christian.
anxiousmom--I don't think your curiosity is weird, just curious and wanting to know. If your friend "keeps kosher" she may be uncomfortable with a gentile at the meal. My friends are reform Jews so were happy to include me.
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Post by paigepea on Mar 26, 2016 22:13:40 GMT
Dh is Jewish (I'm not), but wasn't raised in a religious home; therefore, he's no help re. Passover. We've been invited to join a family to celebrate Passover and I've zero clue as to what to expect. Hoping the all-knowing Peas can help me. Do I offer to take food? What's an appropriate gift for the host/hostess? Can we take regular wine or do I need to buy something special? What do we wear (it's just us and the host family, we're very casual, the other family is much more conservative than us, Dad always wears dress-type pants and button down shirt)? The Mom said she has some fun tricks to teach the story to the kids, whatever that means. I'd really like to prep. my boys before the day, I'd hate them to say something inappropriate. Are special foods served? Geez, I hope gvelte fish isn't one of them! When I asked dh the above his response was "you're asking the wrong Jew" Help! Don't take wine. Wear dressy casual - nice pants and top. Chances are you'll go through the Seder first. Seder means order, so you'll follow the dinner in order. Start with chanting the order, saying the 4 questions of Passover, and then taking turns reading the answers. Throughout you'll drink / bless 4 glasses of wine. You'll know dinner is close when you start eating /blessing matzo with different symbolic toppings and dipping a green vegetable in salt water. The traditions are all symbolic so there will be a lot of explaining for you. The meal is traditional. Matzo ball soup, fish, meat, Kugol, etc. Afterwards the kids search for a special piece of matzo - the afikoman - the Seder cannot continue until everyone has eaten a piece of this special matzo. Your kids will search for it in the house (or hide it) and will sell it back to the head of the table (or he/she will pay them for clues). Don't take food. Flowers are fine. Don't be worried about saying anything wrong - can't think of anything that could be bad - just have fun.
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Post by paigepea on Mar 26, 2016 22:16:13 GMT
Sometimes families have figurines or little toys to represent each plague, or other ways of telling the story like through pictures. You might want to watch the 10 commandments with your kids if you want them to get more out of the Seder / be more into the story.
Paige.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Mar 26, 2016 22:18:13 GMT
it's fine to be curious. Passover is a celebration in which we as Jews are asked to welcome the stranger, so there should be a lot of tolerance for lack of knowledge on aspects of the different parts of the Seder. I don't drink wine, just Kosher Grape juice.
we use the question section to ask modern questions and bring up discussions about things that need fixing in the world. there should be some lively discussions this year!
FYI, Charoset is sweet but not a dessert part of the meal. it has its own place in the Seder, after we bring out the Matzo and bless it. We make a Hillel sandwich made of matzo, horseradish, and charoset.
Desserts are all flour free, or wheat free, unless they are made with Matzo flour. there are lots of recipes. We love macaroons !!! yum!!
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Mar 26, 2016 22:21:14 GMT
I would not take much of the information from the movie the Ten Commandments as it's Hollywood! I agree to get a children's book telling the story. I can recommend one or two, as I taught in Jewish Preschools a lot.
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 26, 2016 22:21:56 GMT
Also, I would go to the bookstore and look for a children's book about Passover. I know your boys are older, but that would give you all a quick overview of what's happening. One more thing: matzoh spread with butter makes a fantastic tea time snack. The matzoh at Trader Joe's (imported from Israel) is the best. And matzoh ball soup rocks. Add a little chopped fresh parsley to your matzoh balls, even if the recipe doesn't call for it. Matzho ball soup is something we all LOVE. Oooooh, I hope they serve that
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Post by paigepea on Mar 26, 2016 22:21:57 GMT
Special foods:
Horseradish makes us cry and helps is taste the tears of our ancestors
We dip a green veg in salt water to taste tears of slaves. We eat a green vegetable rotate the bitterness of the slaves.
We eat whole eggs to symbolize the cycle of life
We eat haroset to symbolize the bricks that our ancestors made / moved
We eat matzo - bread that has only been allowed to rise for 8 minutes to remember that our ancestors didn't have time to wait for their bread to rise when they were preparing to leave Egypt.
We spill 10 drops of wine to represent the 10 plagues.
We often sit on pillows to show that we are free.
We remember why we put a mezuzah on our door post - so that the angel of death knows to Pass Over the Jewish homes.
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Post by paigepea on Mar 26, 2016 22:23:09 GMT
I would not take much of the information from the movie the Ten Commandments as it's Hollywood! I agree to get a children's book telling the story. I can recommend one or two, as I taught in Jewish Preschools a lot. The movie is a pretty good start - pretty accurate compared to what they'll hear at the Seder.
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 26, 2016 22:24:18 GMT
I have a friend who is Jewish (and keeps kosher) and I always wish that she would invite me to Passover dinner. We aren't good enough friends that I can invite myself though. In some ways, I am the single most unsophisticated boob on the face of the planet and while I know a little about what would happen, I would love to be a participant so I can learn more. Is that weird? Nope, not at all weird. I was raised Christian. Now I don't follow any religion, but yet religions fascinate me. I love to know the reason behind different beliefs, I'm usually "that" person who will ask the dumb questions.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Mar 26, 2016 22:26:58 GMT
Matzoh is also good mixed with eggs for breakfast! eggs, garlic and onion...and maybe some herbs!
Love Matzoh ball soup all year round, but it's traditional also for Passover
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Post by msliz on Mar 27, 2016 0:11:20 GMT
Special foods: Horseradish makes us cry and helps is taste the tears of our ancestors We dip a green veg in salt water to taste tears of slaves. We eat a green vegetable rotate the bitterness of the slaves. We eat whole eggs to symbolize the cycle of life We eat haroset to symbolize the bricks that our ancestors made / moved We eat matzo - bread that has only been allowed to rise for 8 minutes to remember that our ancestors didn't have time to wait for their bread to rise when they were preparing to leave Egypt. We spill 10 drops of wine to represent the 10 plagues. We often sit on pillows to show that we are free. We remember why we put a mezuzah on our door post - so that the angel of death knows to Pass Over the Jewish homes. I agree with all of the above except for the last one. We have a mezzuzah on the doorpost because it contains a scroll of the Sh'ma prayer. The Ve'ahavta prayer instructs us to write the words of the Sh'ma on our doorposts and gates as a reminder of all that is important when we leave our homes to engage with the world or when we return home to be with our families. It has nothing to do with Passover. Other than that though, good post!
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Post by zztop11 on Mar 27, 2016 1:48:15 GMT
"The Mom said she has some fun tricks to teach the story to the kids, whatever that means." I bet I know what she is doing. One of the things that happens during the sedar is that plagues are mentioned that happened to the Jewish people. I don't want to ruin it for you, but I am thinking that she will have some extra items that will help the kids remember what the plagues are. There are kits that you can buy that have "props" in them that represent the plagues. My husbands aunt used these one year. They were funny and they really helped us remember the plagues. There were 10 plagues that God put upon the Egyptians for not letting the Israelies go. For example, one of the plagues is insects. So that that plague, she might have a bunch of plastic little bugs that get thrown around. Don't tell your kids about them. If that is what it is, it's more fun when it is a surprise.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Mar 27, 2016 2:31:54 GMT
Just a tip- make sure you've fed your kiddos before the meal. It can be long, and it's difficult with cranky, hungry kids.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Mar 27, 2016 5:46:01 GMT
you need to ask if the family is Conservative, Orthodox or Reform. there might be a huge difference in the length of the Seder. the Reform Seders are usually shorter. We always had 10 Plagues bags when I taught preschool. Our Seders at the Jewish Preschool was maybe 1/2 hour. Rabbi approved! we had lots of music and even had a time when the children could get up an dance to Miriam's Song. Whatever information you get from us or online will be general. the family where you are invited most likely have their own traditions and hopefully activities for the children.
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Post by peano on Mar 27, 2016 12:10:31 GMT
Also, I would go to the bookstore and look for a children's book about Passover. I know your boys are older, but that would give you all a quick overview of what's happening. One more thing: matzoh spread with butter makes a fantastic tea time snack. The matzoh at Trader Joe's (imported from Israel) is the best. And matzoh ball soup rocks. Add a little chopped fresh parsley to your matzoh balls, even if the recipe doesn't call for it. Yesterday I sat down for a late lunch, and because I was so hungry, I was just grabbing stuff. After a couple of bites, I realized I was eating a matzoh topped with a piece of ham. I haven't been to a seder since I was a kid, but even though they are long, I think they're fun. It was always my fave Jewish holiday. OP, as long as no one says that Hitler had some good ideas, you're golden.
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Post by utmr on Mar 27, 2016 13:49:34 GMT
Lots of good advice above. Definitely have a snack befit you go. If you want a hostess gift either flowers or a bottle of kosher for Passover wine. Not plain kosher - Kosher for Passover. Ask at the big grocery or liquor store. Plague bags are fun, everyone enjoys those. Enjoy!
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Post by whipea on Mar 27, 2016 14:00:14 GMT
Just a tip- make sure you've fed your kiddos before the meal. It can be long, and it's difficult with cranky, hungry kids. My grandmother fixed this situation by mixing a little of that sweet kosher wine in the seltzer and I remember falling asleep under the table.
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 27, 2016 14:30:34 GMT
Thank you - so much great and helpful information!
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