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Post by librarylady on Apr 16, 2016 13:48:37 GMT
Recently saw a news report that said the method works. Way to do it: There seem to be several ideas floating around. One idea is to fast for 2 days back to back and eat regularly on the other 5 days per week. The other idea is to fast every other day until you reach your desired weight. Fasting = eating only 500 calories on that day. Just wondered if anyone here has tried it. health.usnews.com/best-diet/fast-dietwww.womenshealthmag.com/weight-loss/intermittent-fasting
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Post by grinningcat on Apr 16, 2016 13:54:06 GMT
Fasting is dangerous for your health. This is another one of those fad diets that may work in the short term but cannot be sustained in the long term. Eat better, eat less, more more. That's how it's done. None of this fasting nonsense that will just hurt you.
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Post by pas2 on Apr 16, 2016 14:14:16 GMT
Was just talking about this with my sister and she told me my grandmother used to fast one day every week. I never knew that, no wonder she was so small! I have heard that alternating your calorie count everyday speeds up weight loss so I would think it would work under the same principal. Don't know if I could do it though, I don't have that much self control.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 14:25:58 GMT
The 5:2 diet is extremely popular in the UK with many people achieving their weight loss goals. Not sure how sustainable it is though. I've flipped through the book, but haven't tried it.
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Post by peasapie on Apr 16, 2016 14:37:42 GMT
My daughter was having no success losing weight with calorie-controlled eating. She started intermittent fasting a few weeks ago and is down six pounds.
Depending on your body and metabolism, I think some people's bodies adjust to the calorie intake and need a shock, rather than a moderate change, in order to lose.
She's very happy.
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Post by gar on Apr 16, 2016 14:42:54 GMT
I had good success with the 5:2. I fasted (I.e. 500 calories max) 2 says a week, not consecutively, until I reached my goal then maintained it with 1 fast day per week. I am usually very dismissive of diets but I read enough good reports to convince me to give it a go.
Once you are ready to embrace it, it wasn't that hard and I don't believe it's detrimental to your health at all.
I can't remember why I stopped it now....I probably got complacent but I would be happy to do it again if I needed to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 15:39:24 GMT
I've done it and actually felt quite heathy throughout. I lost weight plus liked the self-discipline. And yes, I've kept the weight off.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 16, 2016 15:44:33 GMT
Fasting is not dangerous for your health. There are actually many known health benefits.
I heard about 5:2 here a few years ago. I tried it then but didn't stick with it. I had joined a Facebook group and never left it. Last fall I was getting notifications with tons of success stories so I decided to give it a try. I lost 14 lbs in about 7/8 weeks, which is the fastest I have ever lost weight. I have just recently started really sticking to it again. I like that it gives me a calorie deficit that is difficult for me to achieve any other way (I am very short and have a sedentary job, so a low TDEE). There are tons of people on the Facebook group that have had long term success.
Another form of IF is cutting down your eating window each day or several days a week. Most people have heard of 16:8. Basically, you eat all of the calories for the day in the 8 he eating window. However, I have recently joined an If Facebook group and think that many people on there are being very unhealthy with it. Cutting the window down to eating once a day, fasting more than 24 hours at a time, etc.
There is a documentary by Michael Moseley that talks another 5:2 and the health benefits.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 16, 2016 15:47:15 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 16, 2016 15:50:43 GMT
I also wanted to point out that there are different definitions of fasting in the If world. For 5:2 (or some people do 4:3 but most say they haven't gotten much better results with 4:3 than 5:2 u less they really over ate one day) a "fast day" means up to 500 calories for women. Some people spread the calories out, some people just have liquids until dinner. On the other IF group, people consider fasting to be true fasting--no food during that period of time.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 16, 2016 23:20:09 GMT
My dad did the 5:2 diet and he lost the weight that he wanted to. I could never do that one or any fasting diets. I'd prefer to stick to a low calorie diet every day (not that I can manage to do that either ).
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 16, 2016 23:34:30 GMT
Barring health issues like diabetes, I don't see how fasting for a short amount of time is a detriment to your body.
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Post by gar on Apr 17, 2016 0:51:05 GMT
My dad did the 5:2 diet and he lost the weight that he wanted to. I could never do that one or any fasting diets. I'd prefer to stick to a low calorie diet every day (not that I can manage to do that either ). That was one of the big benefits for me.....5 days a week I ate completely normally. The diet didn't rule my life and wasn't on my mind all the time. I found it easier to basically only restrict my eating 2 days a week rather than 7, all be it, fairly drastic restrictions. Knowing I could eat as normal the next day made it far more do-able for me:smile:
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Post by librarylady on Apr 17, 2016 2:53:18 GMT
I had never heard of this (I normally just mentally block diet stories). Last week a news story was about a report that said the diet did work, and it was not harmful as once believed.
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Post by gar on Apr 17, 2016 2:59:43 GMT
I had never heard of this (I normally just mentally block diet stories). Last week a news story was about a report that said the diet did work, and it was not harmful as once believed. Many cultures fast intermittently so I'm pretty sure it doesn't do you any harm, besides, you do actually eat.....just a low number of calories.
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Apr 17, 2016 6:00:33 GMT
Thanks for posting! This looks interesting. I may give it a try. It seems like 2 days of careful planning would be easier than 7 days.
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Post by vanessa on Apr 17, 2016 6:17:05 GMT
I fast a few days a week to shock my metabolism now that I'm over 40. Fast, for me, means I eat nothing. I also like to feel hunger because it reminds me what hunger feels like and I think a lot of Americans don't know what hunger feels like, so they can't understand satiety. I know the minute that I put that last bite that my body wants in my mouth and I'm immediately done. Many of us don't have that. It works for me. I am very active at my job (fast walking around 40 miles a week), so I fast on my off days. I unintentionally fasted two days in a row this week (doing taxes and stuff and not thinking about eating) and I lost 8 pounds this week. I didn't really have it to lose, so to make my Mom feel better I had ice cream for breakfast yesterday lol (yes, she checks in because she thinks I'm starving myself because I'm not fat anymore). On my days off of work, I am completely sedentary working on college work, so fasting on those days just makes sense. I eat when I'm moving and moving at work and I graze. I don't feel unhealthy at all and I'm about 10 pounds from goal maintenance (mostly due to prednisone). If you ask my Mom, I'm too skinny. I'm nowhere near menopause, but I have had a hysterectomy and keeping my metabolism on her feet is a top Priority, because you cannot exercise out a bad diet. I also drink more than a gallon of water a day...along with two cups of milk for protein.
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Post by vanessa on Apr 17, 2016 6:21:02 GMT
And my Mom still sends me extra large clothes when I am a medium to small. It's frustrating. I get that food is love to her, it is to me too. But not in a fat way, If that makes any sense. I don't have to be fat to be healthy, Mommy!
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Post by Lindarina on Apr 17, 2016 8:53:24 GMT
I've done it on and off. Not so much because of weight loss, i'm more interested in the health benefits examined in the documentary by Michael Mosly.
It's not that hard to follow really. When I first tried it I was surprised at how easy those fast days were. It was actually quite liberating to not have to constantly eat all the time.
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Post by rainangel on Apr 17, 2016 9:23:01 GMT
I flipped through the book after my brother recommended this to me. He did the 5:2 diet for a while and lost 12 pounds ( 6 kilos).
This diet is simply calorie intake. When you eat 500 calories or less, 2 days a week, your body will have a calorie decrease over the course of a week. So instead of eating small amounts of calories 7 days a week, you eat REALLY small amounts of calories 2 days a week. But you have to be sensible the other 5 days. You can't eat 500 calories on Monday, and then have six servings of ice cream on Tuesday AND Wednesday, and expect to lose weight. Fast 2 days a week, eat sensible 5 days a week.
I am up for trying this diet soon. Have a few things to get through over the next couple of weeks, and then I want to try this!
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Post by gar on Apr 17, 2016 9:33:32 GMT
I flipped through the book after my brother recommended this to me. He did the 5:2 diet for a while and lost 12 pounds ( 6 kilos). This diet is simply calorie intake. When you eat 500 calories or less, 2 days a week, your body will have a calorie decrease over the course of a week. So instead of eating small amounts of calories 7 days a week, you eat REALLY small amounts of calories 2 days a week. But you have to be sensible the other 5 days. You can't eat 500 calories on Monday, and then have six servings of ice cream on Tuesday AND Wednesday, and expect to lose weight. Fast 2 days a week, eat sensible 5 days a week. I am up for trying this diet soon. Have a few things to get through over the next couple of weeks, and then I want to try this! I found that I barely needed to alter my diet but I was eating a pretty healthy diet anyway. I guess if your diet was poor initially the shift would be harder.
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Post by carolynhasacat on Apr 17, 2016 12:15:09 GMT
I remember back in the '70's Carol Burnett said that she stayed trim by fasting one day a week. Fasting one day/week is the only way I've ever really been able to lose weight. I think 2 days would be really difficult for me, but maybe I'll give it a try.
Do the 2 days need to be back-to-back to be effective?
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Post by Country Ham on Apr 17, 2016 12:29:10 GMT
Fasting is dangerous for your health. This is another one of those fad diets that may work in the short term but cannot be sustained in the long term. Eat better, eat less, more more. That's how it's done. None of this fasting nonsense that will just hurt you. Where do you get the idea that fasting is dangerous for you? I know several people who have fasted once or twice a week for spiritual reasons for years. I am talking nothing to eat/drink at all for the day. They are still quite healthy. Plus 500 calories a day is not fasting it's cutting down your calories by a substantial amount but if you eat a heavy plant based diet for that day you are definitely eating low cal but still getting lots of nutrients in.
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Post by Lindarina on Apr 17, 2016 20:14:16 GMT
Fasting is dangerous for your health. On the contrary, research seems to point in the direction that fasting can have great health benefits. If you're healthy, there's nothing dangerous about going without food for a few hours. Don't you think evolution would have gotten rid of the human race if we got hurt not eating every three hours?
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Post by gar on Apr 18, 2016 2:40:55 GMT
I remember back in the '70's Carol Burnett said that she stayed trim by fasting one day a week. Fasting one day/week is the only way I've ever really been able to lose weight. I think 2 days would be really difficult for me, but maybe I'll give it a try. Do the 2 days need to be back-to-back to be effective? No, I did Mondays and Thursdays, never back to back days, (that seemed too much!!) and sometimes I switched days if an event clashed with a fasting day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 3:17:59 GMT
Oh gosh... I didn't realize that this was a "diet" but... the older I get, this is how I eat very often. I know---it's NOT good for me, but for *me*, personally, I feel fine eating much less (or basically nothing) for a few days. I do NOT recommend it to anyone though. You have to know your own health issues. Are you diabetic? Do you have any other health issues? Do you have a busy day--working or keeping busy? Unless you could be able to basically do nothing if you had to, then don't do this!!! You might see black spots and feel like passing out. You might get beyond the hunger stage and feel euphoric, but you could faint easily and be ill, so, be very, very careful!!
Again, while I don't promote this, I know that this is how I live some days of the month, naturally, just to even out my diet. I think I self-adjust at this stage of my life. I've been thin until I had babies, and then I got up to a size 20!! I yo-yo'd, tried every diet and then joined Jenny Craig (for the 3rd time!) and it clicked. It took 1 year and a lot of one-on-one sessions weekly, to get to my goal (from a size 20 to a 2 again!!!). I kept it off for a few years, still going back bi-weekly to check in, and then they urged me just to work there, and I did. Loved it! I left in 2006 and I've been within my range for the past 10 years (and the 5 years before that!). But, the older I get, I do naturally regulate what I eat or don't eat. Just be very careful!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 18, 2016 3:33:50 GMT
Part of it is the calorie deficit, and part of it is that your body truly goes Into "fat burning mode" if you are not giving it constant fuel, particularly carbs. From what I have read, this usually happens if you truly fast for 12+ hours (which could be overnight) but there is not much benefit in fasting longer than 24 hours and there could be some negative impacts with that, particularly for women due to hormonal issues and a tendency to increase cortisol. That is if you are truly fasting (not eating) during that time.
When I tried 5:2 a few years ago, I did feel lightheaded at one point. That scared me so I stopped. However, I have to say that I have never felt like that since starting again in October. I am guessing that part of the problem could have been what I was eating at the time, as well as the fact that I had a baby that didn't sleep much and I was still breastfeeding (I think he was past a year old, but I was still breastfeeding). Now, I eat much healthier than I did then and on fast days I focus on protein and veggies. I also try to not eat after dinner any nights, but particularly the night before a fast day. If I eat late at night it messes with my blood sugar and I am super hungry the next morning. If I eat high carbs, the fast the next day will also be more difficult. Most of the time I am fine, but if I find that it isn't working for me one day I just wait and fast a different day that week.
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