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Post by SweetieBugs on May 14, 2016 16:20:40 GMT
My DD, now 20, has been like this for as long as I can remember. I am struggling with a few things that significantly impact the quality of my day to day life and she just rolls her eyes and walks away. I don't expect her to let me cry on her shoulder or anything but at least a reassuring "I know" or "that sucks/is difficult" would go a long way.
She will complain about how hard her zoology class is and how horrible she did on a test but I always sympathize with her and give her encouraging words. I think my actions have shown how to be empathetic.
Many years back, when girls from school would call her (trying to be her friend) she would just brush them off on the phone in a pretty brisk matter. She just doesn't get it. I've struggled with this for years and I guess I just have to accept this about her.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 16:37:43 GMT
I'm sorry you're dealing with difficult things. My brother has zero empathy, I struggle sometimes with his attitude towards our aging parents. He is great with practical things and I'm thankful for that but if I need someone to talk to about them or some understanding of the impact things are having on me then he is not the person I go to. I've learnt over the years what to discuss with him and what not to, it helped greatly to lower my expectations of him.
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Post by gar on May 14, 2016 16:40:59 GMT
I'm not usually a fan of tit-for-tat but have you ever brushed your DD off when she's saying that she's struggling with something?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 16:48:48 GMT
Try taking a leaf out of her book and roll your eyes when she tells you something. At 20 years old she should be able to accept it in the same way as you are expected to from her. That's the bitch in me coming out I'm afraid. It's not easy to do so when you're not that kind of person. If she's always been like it there's not a lot you can do to change her sadly but it still hurts. Try and ignore it and not let it get to you.
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Post by miominmio on May 14, 2016 17:09:31 GMT
The fact that she brushed off those interested in being friends with her makes me think there might be something else going on, because that, at least to me, hadn't got anything to do with empathy (or lack thereof). How does she interact with other people? Is she just not interested in other people, or is it just a lack of empathy?
But otherwise I agree with gar and dottyscrapper; with a 20 yo I would not show any empathy towards her if she isn't willing to show you any.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 14, 2016 17:12:36 GMT
Seek your need for empathy from someone who shows an interest. You'll never change someone like that. I know all too well.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 17:13:50 GMT
My DD, now 20, has been like this for as long as I can remember. I am struggling with a few things that significantly impact the quality of my day to day life and she just rolls her eyes and walks away. I don't expect her to let me cry on her shoulder or anything but at least a reassuring "I know" or "that sucks/is difficult" would go a long way.
She will complain about how hard her zoology class is and how horrible she did on a test but I always sympathize with her and give her encouraging words. I think my actions have shown how to be empathetic.
Many years back, when girls from school would call her (trying to be her friend) she would just brush them off on the phone in a pretty brisk matter. She just doesn't get it. I've struggled with this for years and I guess I just have to accept this about her. You can take this with a grain of salt from a person you probably would consider at the low end empathy (I'm not but due to people mistaking empathy for sympathy some assume I have no empathy) Just talking to her about things that significantly, and adversely, affect you IS crying on her shoulder. If you need specific help (I need you to mop the kitchen floor) than state such. Don't spend a long winded spiel about why. Talk to one of your friends if you just need to vent about your conditions. Also, empathy and sympathy are very different things. One can be empathetic yet not be sympathetic which is where I often am and where your daughter might be. Empathy is the ability to put yourself in someone else's skin and see the issues they face. Sympathy is a feeling of compassion. You can be sympathetic without empathy. You are wanting your daughter to have compassion on you.. to be sympathetic. Depending on what she sees going on in your life from the outside she may have trouble mustering up that compassion. She might feel you do something that creates unnecessary suffering but aren't willing to change your life to change your complaint so she tunes out. I am empathetic to the point is can be paralyzing if I don't shut it down. As for the girl's from school..... I also have a keen eye for false friends. People who want to use me for thier own agenda and your daughter may have had the same issues. I'd rather no friends than faux friends.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 14, 2016 17:28:03 GMT
Many years back, when girls from school would call her (trying to be her friend) she would just brush them off on the phone in a pretty brisk matter. She just doesn't get it. I've struggled with this for years and I guess I just have to accept this about her. This sounds kind of like my BFF's stepdaughter with Asperger's. She really doesn't connect with people at all.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 14, 2016 17:40:10 GMT
I wonder if some of this has to do with the parent child relationship. What I mean is she probably views you as the strong one. She hasn't yet evolved to the point where you two have more of a friendship type relationship. Is she capable of showing empathy to her peers?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 18:32:32 GMT
I would deal with this by finding someone else to talk to.
I'm sure this does not in any way apply to you, but I probably appear to be indifferent to some people at times. I have a low tolerance for people who complain a lot. Sometimes I just want to tell them to get a gratitude list or find someone with real problems and help them.
I was shocked once to hear my dh telling folks about me. "She's pretty hard to impress. She works in the er and Unless you have a limb amputated or are dieing you really not gonna get much sympathyfrom her."
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Post by alissa103 on May 14, 2016 19:02:13 GMT
The fact that she brushed off those interested in being friends with her makes me think there might be something else going on, because that, at least to me, hadn't got anything to do with empathy (or lack thereof). How does she interact with other people? Is she just not interested in other people, or is it just a lack of empathy? But otherwise I agree with gar and dottyscrapper; with a 20 yo I would not show any empathy towards her if she isn't willing to show you any. This. How are her other social cues?
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Post by gsquaredmom on May 14, 2016 19:16:38 GMT
Many years back, when girls from school would call her (trying to be her friend) she would just brush them off on the phone in a pretty brisk matter. She just doesn't get it. I've struggled with this for years and I guess I just have to accept this about her. This sounds kind of like my BFF's stepdaughter with Asperger's. She really doesn't connect with people at all. My first thought as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 19:22:32 GMT
I would deal with this by finding someone else to talk to. I'm sure this does not in any way apply to you, but I probably appear to be indifferent to some people at times. I have a low tolerance for people who complain a lot. Sometimes I just want to tell them to get a gratitude list or find someone with real problems and help them. I was shocked once to hear my dh telling folks about me. "She's pretty hard to impress. She works in the er and Unless you have a limb amputated or are dieing you really not gonna get much sympathyfrom her." Hello sister! I think I love you!
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Post by anniefb on May 14, 2016 19:36:21 GMT
I'm sorry you're dealing with difficult things. My brother has zero empathy, I struggle sometimes with his attitude towards our aging parents. He is great with practical things and I'm thankful for that but if I need someone to talk to about them or some understanding of the impact things are having on me then he is not the person I go to. I've learnt over the years what to discuss with him and what not to, it helped greatly to lower my expectations of him. Sounds like my brother too.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on May 14, 2016 21:06:18 GMT
Unless she is unhappy with her relationships or her friends or lack there of I would not jump to the conclusion that she has any mental or emotional problems. She may just be somebody who does not need or want many friendships.
I agree with those who have advised the OP to find somebody else to seek sympathy from. Your daughter is who she is and you just put unnecessary stress on both of you when you expect her to respond in the way you think she should respond or to do things the way that you do them. And yes I also agree with the poster who says that you are looking to cry on your daughter shoulderand you expect her to respond to you in a certain way because you respond to her in that way.
If you feel the need to want, vent to your friends. Your daughter clearly does not want to beThe one you complain too.
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Post by refugeepea on May 14, 2016 21:55:30 GMT
Many years back, when girls from school would call her (trying to be her friend) she would just brush them off on the phone in a pretty brisk matter. She just doesn't get it. I've struggled with this for years and I guess I just have to accept this about her. This sounds kind of like my BFF's stepdaughter with Asperger's. She really doesn't connect with people at all. I thought the same thing as well. It may be she tries to keep things at an even level to avoid becoming overwhelmed with emotions. My daughter is very matter of fact. I recently learned she was hiding a lot of things because she didn't want me more stressed. Like a lot of people with Aspergers, her way of helping me, didn't come across in the best way and hurt her more.
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on May 14, 2016 21:57:01 GMT
I don't. Everybody I know has empathy.
I only knew one person and I left his cheating ass.
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