wellway
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Post by wellway on May 17, 2016 10:28:57 GMT
You would think that pretty much all of Roman Rome would be known about at this stage but no, whilst building a new metro line a huge Roman barracks covering 9,700 sq ft has been unearthed. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36311156BBC " Excavation work for a new metro line in Rome has unearthed a huge Roman barracks from the 2nd Century AD when Emperor Hadrian was in power.
The find is so impressive that Italy plans to create Rome's first "archaeological station" at Amba Aradam, on the city's third metro line.
The new station is being built while archaeologists brush dirt away from artefacts and mosaics 9m (30ft) below street level.
The ruins cover 900sq m (9,700sq ft).
The site, thought to have housed Hadrian's Praetorian Guard, includes a 100m hallway with 39 rooms."
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Post by miominmio on May 17, 2016 10:42:03 GMT
I would think that every time someone sticks a shovel in the ground, they find something new.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on May 17, 2016 11:15:13 GMT
I would think that every time someone sticks a shovel in the ground, they find something new. When we visited Rome, we hired an archeologist for some private touring. She talked about the politics of archeological preservation in Rome and the blunders made through government oversight, in addition to the risk of decay and damage because of tourism and exposure to the elements. Her opinion - which she said was shared by many other professionals - was that it's better if some sites remain indiscovered and underground. Wow, I'm quite the Debbie Downer, huh? It IS a cool story/discovery.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on May 17, 2016 11:21:10 GMT
That's very interesting!
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Post by melanell on May 17, 2016 11:51:42 GMT
I would think that every time someone sticks a shovel in the ground, they find something new. When we visited Rome, we hired an archeologist for some private touring. She talked about the politics of archeological preservation in Rome and the blunders made through government oversight, in addition to the risk of decay and damage because of tourism and exposure to the elements. Her opinion - which she said was shared by many other professionals - was that it's better if some sites remain undiscovered and underground. I totally see her point. It's a tough situation. If they remain unknown, then they stay preserved by their current situation. However, no one ever sees them or learns from them. If they unearth them, people can learn from them and admire them, but the same people put them at risk. I guess in the long run, I'm torn. I like the idea of there still being things out there that we haven't found and perhaps never will. But I also like the idea that we can still find history around us, hiding in the midst of our lives, and that means finding and unearthing things.
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Post by gsquaredmom on May 17, 2016 12:11:58 GMT
When we visited Rome, we hired an archeologist for some private touring. She talked about the politics of archeological preservation in Rome and the blunders made through government oversight, in addition to the risk of decay and damage because of tourism and exposure to the elements. Her opinion - which she said was shared by many other professionals - was that it's better if some sites remain undiscovered and underground. I totally see her point. It's a tough situation. If they remain unknown, then they stay preserved by their current situation. However, no one ever sees them or learns from them. If they unearth them, people can learn from them and admire them, but the same people put them at risk. I guess in the long run, I'm torn. I like the idea of there still being things out there that we haven't found and perhaps never will. But I also like the idea that we can still find history around us, hiding in the midst of our lives, and that means finding and unearthing things. And sometimes leaving things to better future technology is a good idea.
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valincal
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Post by valincal on May 17, 2016 12:44:15 GMT
Very cool!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 12:46:40 GMT
I would think that every time someone sticks a shovel in the ground, they find something new. When we visited Rome, we hired an archeologist for some private touring. She talked about the politics of archeological preservation in Rome and the blunders made through government oversight, in addition to the risk of decay and damage because of tourism and exposure to the elements. Her opinion - which she said was shared by many other professionals - was that it's better if some sites remain indiscovered and underground. Wow, I'm quite the Debbie Downer, huh? It IS a cool story/discovery. I sort of agree with you in some respects but I'm torn. We would have missed out on so much history and knowledge of civilization if some of the things we have seen in the past had been left in situ so to speak.
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Mystie
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Post by Mystie on May 17, 2016 13:06:17 GMT
That's amazing! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by gailoh on May 17, 2016 13:48:19 GMT
thank you for sharing
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Post by perumbula on May 17, 2016 14:10:42 GMT
When we visited Rome, we hired an archeologist for some private touring. She talked about the politics of archeological preservation in Rome and the blunders made through government oversight, in addition to the risk of decay and damage because of tourism and exposure to the elements. Her opinion - which she said was shared by many other professionals - was that it's better if some sites remain indiscovered and underground. Wow, I'm quite the Debbie Downer, huh? It IS a cool story/discovery. I sort of agree with you in some respects but I'm torn. We would have missed out on so much history and knowledge of civilization if some of the things we have seen in the past had been left in situ so to speak. so true. Some of the philosophical/political changes of Europe from the Renaissance onward were influenced by archeological finds and the texts they found. Nothing lasts forever. It would decay underground if left alone. I find value in being able to learn from the things they dig up. Yes, we need to be careful and preserve it as best we can. Sometimes that means let the experts in but no tourists, but I think it's important to let people see history in person rather than just hear about it or see the pictures or even just wonder what's under our feet.
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Post by auntkelly on May 17, 2016 14:40:15 GMT
I think it's a very cool find.
There are a lot of politics involved in archeology, and I understand why archeologists are concerned about excavating sites and the damage that can occur. However, I personally think that these treasures belong to the people of the nation where they are located and they should be excavated as safely as possible and enjoyed by the public to the extent possible.
Also, archeologists often forget that those pesky tourists add a lot to the local economy, making it possible for the government to finance more archeological research.
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on May 17, 2016 14:53:36 GMT
Thanks for sharing. This is so cool!
I do understand what AmeliaBloomer is saying. One of the castles I visited when I visited France was built around Roman ruins. All left of the Roman building was some crumbling walls. Archaeologists don't even know what the building was supposed to be because so little was left and the castle was built during the dark ages, so they didn't know what the ruin was supposed to be and didn't write it down.
I love Roman history. People think that ancient civilizations were backwards and not as knowledgeable as we are now, but there's so much we're learning about Roman history that disputes this. I'm amazed at the gorgeous floors of these barracks. Totally different than our modern barracks.
I wonder if the guards had to scrub their floors with toothbrushes when they screwed up, too...
The Romans also had the best way of dealing with rapists. They smashed their balls between two rocks...
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Post by julieb on May 17, 2016 15:49:13 GMT
Thanks for sharing!
The amazing tour guide we had at Pompeii talked about the lack of funds available to dig, discover and preserve, not just in Pompeii, but Rome and surrounding areas.
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Post by lucyg on May 17, 2016 15:56:19 GMT
Undiscovered = might as well not exist. I vote for discovering, uncovering, and preserving as well as we're able, along with sharing with the public as much as is reasonably possible.
Thanks for the heads up!
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Post by anniefb on May 17, 2016 18:17:37 GMT
Such a cool story - TFS!
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Post by camanddanismom on May 17, 2016 22:36:47 GMT
Just got back from Rome 2 weeks ago and saw some of what they have uncovered. Amazing!! That whole section near the Colloseum is just so cool! Hopefully they will treat it properly!!
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Post by MsKnit on May 17, 2016 22:43:08 GMT
Wow!
Thank you for sharing.
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Post by JoP on May 18, 2016 9:53:56 GMT
Thanks for sharing
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Post by mollycoddle on May 18, 2016 10:21:14 GMT
TFS! Those mosaics will be beautiful.
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AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on May 18, 2016 11:16:06 GMT
Hopefully they will treat it properly!! This is the crux of the comments I relayed by the archeologist in Rome. It's not that these professionals think everything should remain undiscovered just cuz'. After all, the job of archeologists is to discover, unearth, re-assemble, interpret. It's more that the politics of overseeing and funding historical excavations and completed sites can be fraught - resulting in poor management, inadequate security, too much access to tourists, and interminable delays when addressing how to prevent/fix the decay that happens above ground. Apparently, the Italians are famous for dragging their feet. So, the feeling is more "better to leave it underground until the Powers That Be start doing their jobs right."
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