jayfab
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Post by jayfab on May 23, 2016 20:39:19 GMT
and lets not forget this This was great! His look hahahaha.
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 23, 2016 20:47:23 GMT
oh yea!! DD and I was just busting a gut over that.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on May 23, 2016 20:59:52 GMT
From what I understand, this isn't in the books yet - the show has surpassed the books and there is no guarantee that the books will go down the same path. (Although, I suspect they will be the same.) I'm just so mad at Bran... Re: Meera - Didn't Leaf tell her that she was at the tree with Bran for a reason? That he would need her? I wonder if she meant for the incidents that happened last night or if it's for something yet to come? I read somewhere today that Hodor's story is essentially how GRRM is going to write it. The writers of the show basically collaborated with him on this part. I read that too.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on May 23, 2016 21:02:15 GMT
exactly! I'm hoping it snaps her out of her current story line path and she seeks out her family Well, that would be a waste of like 2 seasons then for her??!! ha That wouldn't make sense. Because what would have been the purpose? I read an article sorry can't link it.. I think it was on VOX but the theory was that in the end it would be a war between the old gods and the new gods... So that might put her in an interesting position. She is never going to stop being a Stark.
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Post by jloubier on May 23, 2016 21:44:30 GMT
...will Hodor become a white walker now? I was wondering the same thing.
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Post by birukitty on May 23, 2016 22:00:12 GMT
I liked this episode but was anyone else frustrated as hell that Bran wouldn't wake up? The whole time I'm yelling at the TV, "Wake up Bran, wake up!" while everyone around him is either dying or fighting for their lives to save him and he sleeps away.
I did like how confident and forceful Sansa was when she met up with Littlefinger although I really wanted her to tell Brianna (sp?) to kill him right there for what he'd done to her. DS said no, it's better that she didn't kill him at that moment but she should have said yes to his offer of the army and then had him killed. He thought she was a fool not to take him up on that right away.
And I too am sick of the dire Wolves getting killed off left and right. I do like the show very much. It sounds like I don't, but I do. I thought it was incredibly sweet when Darys (sp? sorry, 4th day of a migraine and I don't feel like looking it up) told the man with the skin disease that she ordered him to not give up but to go forth and find a cure. That gave him hope instead of just leaving her and going off to die.
This isn't my favorite show, it's DS's. My favorite is "Outlander". But I do like it.
Debbie in MD.
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Post by elaine on May 23, 2016 22:09:46 GMT
Am I the only one who has a hard time with some of the plot departures? Brienne, for example, has a story line that is worlds away from the books and I think about it every time I see her.
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lisaknits
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Post by lisaknits on May 23, 2016 22:27:49 GMT
and lets not forget this I can't wait to see this play out!
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 23, 2016 22:29:53 GMT
Am I the only one who has a hard time with some of the plot departures? Brienne, for example, has a story line that is worlds away from the books and I think about it every time I see her. Not really, because we are in uncharted territory. Off the books so to say.
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Post by k8smom on May 23, 2016 23:44:21 GMT
Hodor!
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2016 0:03:33 GMT
Am I the only one who has a hard time with some of the plot departures? Brienne, for example, has a story line that is worlds away from the books and I think about it every time I see her. Not really, because we are in uncharted territory. Off the books so to say. Some story lines are beyond the book, but some, like Brienne's have had very little to do with the books for a few seasons now. Last we saw Brienne in the books, she had never found Sansa and had been beaten to a pulp, including having part of her face chewed off by "Biter" from the Arya storyline in the books. It has just been odd to see her traipsing around with Sansa and having a potential love-interest with a Wildling. When we all know that she and Jamie are hot for each other - another part of the books that I really miss was the development of that relationship in all its complexities. It is as if she is a completely different character altogether in the show vs. the books. The main similarities being her physical qualities.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on May 24, 2016 0:47:11 GMT
I'm not in love with Arya's storyline, but I was moved by her reaction to the play depicting her father's death. Arya Stark is still in there even if she thinks she is "no one." I think she's trying to convince herself that she is no one, but knows she's still Arya. Poor kid... she's so lost and is grasping for a purpose.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on May 24, 2016 1:26:52 GMT
This may not be a popular opinion, but I could totally do without the story lines for Bran, Hodor, and Arya. I have no interest at all in what happens to any of them.
"Hold the door." Really?
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on May 24, 2016 1:43:01 GMT
Not really, because we are in uncharted territory. Off the books so to say. Some story lines are beyond the book, but some, like Brienne's have had very little to do with the books for a few seasons now. Last we saw Brienne in the books, she had never found Sansa and had been beaten to a pulp, including having part of her face chewed off by "Biter" from the Arya storyline in the books. It has just been odd to see her traipsing around with Sansa and having a potential love-interest with a Wildling. When we all know that she and Jamie are hot for each other - another part of the books that I really miss was the development of that relationship in all its complexities. It is as if she is a completely different character altogether in the show vs. the books. The main similarities being her physical qualities. I haven't read the books.. but I do read a lot about the TV show because I need help filling in the gaps. I thought what I read is that the reason for Brienne's story line with Sansa is that in the books, there is a fake Sansa running around who actually goes through the rape and torture by Ramsey.
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2016 1:47:12 GMT
Some story lines are beyond the book, but some, like Brienne's have had very little to do with the books for a few seasons now. Last we saw Brienne in the books, she had never found Sansa and had been beaten to a pulp, including having part of her face chewed off by "Biter" from the Arya storyline in the books. It has just been odd to see her traipsing around with Sansa and having a potential love-interest with a Wildling. When we all know that she and Jamie are hot for each other - another part of the books that I really miss was the development of that relationship in all its complexities. It is as if she is a completely different character altogether in the show vs. the books. The main similarities being her physical qualities. I haven't read the books.. but I do read a lot about the TV show because I need help filling in the gaps. I thought what I read is that the reason for Brienne's story line with Sansa is that in the books, there is a fake Sansa running around who actually goes through the rape and torture by Ramsey. Yes, they pull a peasant girl in to play Sansa in order to cement Ramsay's claim to Winterfell. The real Sansa never goes near Ramsay in the books, nor does Brienne find her, even though she is looking. There is a whole Zombie/Walking Dead storyline that isn't touched on in the television series yet either, so probably won't. Not zombies that eat the living, or the white walkers/zombies of the north, but a few key characters in the realm who return from the dead.
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Post by karen on May 24, 2016 2:16:11 GMT
So the whole Bran/Hodor scene...I'm confused. Bran is in his trance watching his dad and uncle and aunt at Winterfell. Then he hears the screaming and wargs into Hodor. So, before Hodor holds the door, does he leave Hodor? Or is that Bran in Hodors body holding the door? That can't be right. Can anyone help me to figure out this scene?
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Post by peasapie on May 24, 2016 2:20:15 GMT
Holy cow. I'm agog. What an episode. So much to think about from this.
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theshyone
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Post by theshyone on May 24, 2016 2:32:14 GMT
My theory:
Bran is dreaming and sees the man stabbed and changed into the first white walker. At some point Bran is touched by the white walker and returns with marks on his arm. The old man is aghast that bran was touched.
My guess is the man that Bran saw being changed was himself in the "other" time. That's how everything is related.
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Post by cindyupnorth on May 24, 2016 2:49:44 GMT
My theory: Bran is dreaming and sees the man stabbed and changed into the first white walker. At some point Bran is touched by the white walker and returns with marks on his arm. The old man is aghast that bran was touched. My guess is the man that Bran saw being changed was himself in the "other" time. That's how everything is related. I think the 1st one changed was the king white walker, not Bran. They have the same eyes.
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Post by grammadee on May 24, 2016 2:52:50 GMT
I like Sansa's metamorphosis into a strong person in this show, standing up to Littlefinger. But I have had to come to terms with the difference in her story line from the books, starting with her being taken to Winterfell.
I actually like Brianne's story line in the TV show, even though it departs from the books. It DOES stay true to her character of undying loyalty and her sticking to her promise to Sansa's mother that she would find and protect the girls.
I am not an expert in wargs or zombies, but I think Bran had to leave Hodor in order for Hodor to move and hold the door.
And where is Jon's wolf? Didn't see him today as they were moving out.
I knew I would have to read the books again before the next one comes out, but now I will have to really pay attention to what plot line is part of the books and which was wholly for TV...
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on May 24, 2016 3:25:10 GMT
Sansa sending Brienne to the Riverlands will bring her storyline back to where it should be in the books, geographically speaking. And with her in the right area comes the opportunity for the inclusion of the person we shall refer to as L.S. Fingers crossed.
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Post by PNWMom on May 24, 2016 3:46:08 GMT
I'm not reading the thread because I haven't watched the episode yet (still finishing Season 5), but maybe the title is a spoiler all by itself? Yeah. What she said. We watch GOT on Mondays because it is on too late for me on Sundays. So I knew going in that something happens with Hodor. And because it is GOT, I suspected it was his death. Couldn't have just put GOT 5/22???
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Post by chaosisapony on May 24, 2016 4:27:05 GMT
Am I the only one who has a hard time with some of the plot departures? Brienne, for example, has a story line that is worlds away from the books and I think about it every time I see her. I'm actually enjoying most of the plot departures. GRRM has needed some severe edits to the most recent books and I like that the show keeps things more simple. No fake Sansa, no two Reeks, etc. I think Brienne's story line could come full circle with where her character is left in the books, meeting Uncat. I do, however, really miss Jaime and Brienne being more of a team and caring for each other like they do in the books. Jaime's character hasn't been as interesting in the show because he hasn't really gone through his big character transition yet.
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