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Post by elaine on May 24, 2016 10:35:28 GMT
I remember a controversial thread here (or maybe the old pod, but I think here) where the OP was upset because another adult made a comment to one of her kids about her letting her other child (unlicensed) drive a golf cart at their yearly vacation site. The peas were fairly split on that one as to whether it was okay or not to let your child drive a cart and/or whether the other adult should have said anything. So, I had to laugh to myself when I heard THIS STORY on the national evening news last night. Although it sounds as though the alcohol blood level of the mom had something to do with the outcome. |
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Post by bigbundt on May 24, 2016 11:09:53 GMT
After watching the video, looks like she was stopped for letting her kid drive the golf cart but her behavior got her arrested. I don't know what the couple thought that video would prove, the officers seemed calm and completely in control, they were holding her and slowly moved to cuff her while she flailed about screaming. What spouse would leave their other spouse to deal with police for bug spray? Come on.  For the record, I am against letting kids drive golf carts. We have a few families in my neighborhood who let their kids drive them in the streets during the summer and it just isn't safe. Drivers don't always follow the speed limit/stop signs and the kids don't always follow the rules of the road and kids are hanging off the back and acting like fools so it is a recipe for disaster. Their prerogative but I don't think it is wise to pit a flimsy golf cart with no seat belts or air bags driven by a child against a 3,000+ pound car. |
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Post by bigbundt on May 24, 2016 11:19:10 GMT
And you know, I've been approached by an aggressive officer (speeding ticket). He pretty much yelled the entire time from his car to my window throwing out everything I did wrong so I acknowledge officers approach people in a scary manner. However, I knew I *did* do all those wrong things so I replied in a calm manner, wasn't combative and he eventually calmed down. He even told me how to avoid the court date and reduce the fine. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 11:22:00 GMT
We had a young girl in the neighborhood loose a few fingers when AN ADULT drove a golf cart too fast and slammed into a brick mailbox. In my opinion, it's a motorized vehicle.
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Post by johnnysmom on May 24, 2016 12:08:37 GMT
Apparently our city passed the ordinance allowing golf carts to be driven on city roads. It must have just passed last week, b/c OMG are they driving me crazy already! The ordinance states they must be driven by licensed drivers (which except 1, I think is being followed) by I swear every old man who already would drive 20MPH (limit is 25-30) is now driving a cart going 10......ahhhhhhhhhh!
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Post by utmr on May 24, 2016 14:44:19 GMT
I don't think it's wise for anyone to drive a golf cart in traffic. But on the golf course with supervision in the cart? I'm good with that. DD2 learned to drive my fil around the golf course; DD1 did not. Learning to drive an actual car on the street was much easier for DD2, I think due to that experience. DD1 is having a painful time learning to drive. DS is learning on the golf course.
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Post by bc2ca on May 24, 2016 16:20:03 GMT
I watched this story on the news this morning and really wondered WTF this family wants to bring attention to themselves and publicize such stupid behavior. I sure wouldn't put my drunken arrest out on the internet for the world to see.
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Post by Country Ham on May 24, 2016 16:59:25 GMT
Golf carts, mules, 4 wheelers are the norm in my residential subdivision for kids as soon as they can reach the pedals. We don't own any only cause I don't want to waste the money. My kids do ride with other kids as passengers. There are a lot of motorized vehicles ridden by unlicensed kids just not on streets. Think motocross, 4 wheelers competitions at fairs, farm equipment etc
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Post by bc2ca on May 24, 2016 17:20:51 GMT
Golf carts, mules, 4 wheelers are the norm in my residential subdivision for kids as soon as they can reach the pedals. We don't own any only cause I don't want to waste the money. My kids do ride with other kids as passengers. There are a lot of motorized vehicles ridden by unlicensed kids just not on streets. Think motocross, 4 wheelers competitions at fairs, farm equipment etc My kids were operating ATVs and dune buggies before they became licensed drivers, too. One thing about this story is that the incident took place in an exclusive community that this family has been visiting for years. There are no cars, only golf carts, and the rules are only licensed drivers can operate them so you should expect the police to pull you over when they see an 11 year old behind the wheel  . |
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2016 17:31:51 GMT
Golf carts, mules, 4 wheelers are the norm in my residential subdivision for kids as soon as they can reach the pedals. We don't own any only cause I don't want to waste the money. My kids do ride with other kids as passengers. There are a lot of motorized vehicles ridden by unlicensed kids just not on streets. Think motocross, 4 wheelers competitions at fairs, farm equipment etc My kids were operating ATVs and dune buggies before they became licensed drivers, too. One thing about this story is that the incident took place in an exclusive community that this family has been visiting for years. There are no cars, only golf carts, and the rules are only licensed drivers can operate them so you should expect the police to pull you over when they see an 11 year old behind the wheel . It was the similarities of the NC community to what the OP was describing in the original Pea-thread that made me instantly think of the peas. If I remember correctly the OP wanted to go rip her cousin/the other adult a new one for saying something negative about the unlicensed child driver to the other child. It IS a wonderful country that is so diverse that what is the norm in one community (kids driving vehicles of various sorts) can be considered child abuse in another community. And makes it even more clear why there was such a variety of opinions on this issue. |
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Post by myshelly on May 24, 2016 17:33:02 GMT
It doesn't matter what anyone's opinion here is about kids driving golf carts.
The *fact* of the matter is that where this famil was, kids driving golf carts is ILLEGAL.
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Post by loco coco on May 24, 2016 17:35:35 GMT
If I was screaming like that being pinned down my dog would be very protective. Her dog looked so confused, thank god he didnt charge the officers. Her behavior could have caused something very bad for her dog.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on May 24, 2016 17:39:06 GMT
I watched this story on the news this morning and really wondered WTF this family wants to bring attention to themselves and publicize such stupid behavior. I sure wouldn't put my drunken arrest out on the internet for the world to see. Because, don't you know, EVERYTHING has to be put on the internet!  |
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Post by 950nancy on May 24, 2016 17:45:35 GMT
I don't think it's wise for anyone to drive a golf cart in traffic. But on the golf course with supervision in the cart? I'm good with that. DD2 learned to drive my fil around the golf course; DD1 did not. Learning to drive an actual car on the street was much easier for DD2, I think due to that experience. DD1 is having a painful time learning to drive. DS is learning on the golf course. My husband drove a golf cart at work and oftentimes let my kids drive it by the time they could reach the pedals. It was always on school grounds with no other vehicles. Several years ago at a golf course during a staff vs admin shindig, one of the teachers (too much alcohol) drove the cart over a small cliff and trashed it. He was my kids' teacher. Both of my kids suggested that I was silly to worry about their driving the cart because kids are smarter than many adults. |
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Post by iowgirl on May 24, 2016 17:53:11 GMT
Soooo... the 12 year olds driving tractors around here would probably really set people off.. LOL
My kids asked their grandpa when he started work. He said he was 10 when he started cultivating corn. Back then, there was no ROPS or anything on the old open tractors. At least now everything we have - including the Gators and mowers have ROPS. It saved my 16 year olds life once!
In Iowa - you get your learners permit at 14. You get your school permit at 14.5. All is good. DH asked a trooper if our kids could follow behind him (he would be driving the big equipment - a tractor or combine) with a pickup when they had their permits. Nope. Not until they were 16. And we knew that is what the answer would be. BUT... it was perfectly legal for that kid to drive the HUGE tractor with a 40' implement down the highway and my DH could follow them in the pickup.
I don't think kids have any business on golf carts, 4-wheelers, or other ATV's on public roads though - not until they are older.
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2016 18:11:20 GMT
I watched this story on the news this morning and really wondered WTF this family wants to bring attention to themselves and publicize such stupid behavior. I sure wouldn't put my drunken arrest out on the internet for the world to see. I would guess that they are so entrenched in their belief that they were in the right, that they couldn't imagine people would see it any other way. You know how we have a thread here every 3-6 months where the OP posts something so outrageous looking for a PVM response, but 99% of the peas are shocked that the OP thinks her behavior was okay? And then she goes on to defend herself and each post is more damning than the last? I think that there are some people who have an inability to step away and look at their own situations and behavior with a rational eye. It would be a hoot if the woman ended up being a pea. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 24, 2016 19:42:52 GMT
I remember a controversial thread here (or maybe the old pod, but I think here) where the OP was upset because another adult made a comment to one of her kids about her letting her other child (unlicensed) drive a golf cart at their yearly vacation site. The peas were fairly split on that one as to whether it was okay or not to let your child drive a cart and/or whether the other adult should have said anything. So, I had to laugh to myself when I heard THIS STORY on the national evening news last night. Although it sounds as though the alcohol blood level of the mom had something to do with the outcome. Dh and I watched this last ngiht, when they did the lead in and broke to commercial I told him she was probably drunk  I forgot about the prior pea thread though!! I'm always amazed at the things people put out on social media, I would be mortified if people saw me act like some of these people act!! |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on May 24, 2016 19:48:57 GMT
I watched this story on the news this morning and really wondered WTF this family wants to bring attention to themselves and publicize such stupid behavior. I sure wouldn't put my drunken arrest out on the internet for the world to see. I would guess that they are so entrenched in their belief that they were in the right, that they couldn't imagine people would see it any other way. You know how we have a thread here every 3-6 months where the OP posts something so outrageous looking for a PVM response, but 99% of the peas are shocked that the OP thinks her behavior was okay? And then she goes on to defend herself and each post is more damning than the last? I think that there are some people who have an inability to step away and look at their own situations and behavior with a rational eye. It would be a hoot if the woman ended up being a pea. This is exactly my thoughts!! |
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 24, 2016 19:53:32 GMT
I watched this story on the news this morning and really wondered WTF this family wants to bring attention to themselves and publicize such stupid behavior. I sure wouldn't put my drunken arrest out on the internet for the world to see. I would guess that they are so entrenched in their belief that they were in the right, that they couldn't imagine people would see it any other way. You know how we have a thread here every 3-6 months where the OP posts something so outrageous looking for a PVM response, but 99% of the peas are shocked that the OP thinks her behavior was okay? And then she goes on to defend herself and each post is more damning than the last? I think that there are some people who have an inability to step away and look at their own situations and behavior with a rational eye. It would be a hoot if the woman ended up being a pea. That would be an AWESOME thread  |
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Post by bigbundt on May 24, 2016 20:57:46 GMT
If I was screaming like that being pinned down my dog would be very protective. Her dog looked so confused, thank god he didnt charge the officers. Her behavior could have caused something very bad for her dog. I thought it was incredibly irresponsible for the husband to care more about filming the arrest than restraining his dog. That could have ended really badly for the dog if it wasn't so docile.  |
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Post by elaine on May 24, 2016 21:19:05 GMT
If I was screaming like that being pinned down my dog would be very protective. Her dog looked so confused, thank god he didnt charge the officers. Her behavior could have caused something very bad for her dog. I thought it was incredibly irresponsible for the husband to care more about filming the arrest than restraining his dog. That could have ended really badly for the dog if it wasn't so docile. I'm thinking "irresponsible" pretty much sums up the whole episode. |
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Post by hop2 on May 24, 2016 21:49:15 GMT
Well, since I had a certification to drive a farm vehicle ( tractor with wagon or farm equip on back ) which is much bigger than a golf cart, on roads ( other than interstates ) at the age of 12 and did so, many times. Which I'm sure some peas would find totally unacceptable. Maybe I'm not the one to answer this question. But I'd opt for finding out the law about who drives golf carts and where and adhering to it ( which is why I had to get the above certification the law required it ) And I'd also be using my judgement if I felt that my child was not ready for that even if the law allowed it. In my state (NJ ) you must have a valid drivers license to operate an LSV ( which a golf cart would be ) on roadways, so need to be 17. |
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Post by hop2 on May 24, 2016 21:51:57 GMT
Soooo... the 12 year olds driving tractors around here would probably really set people off.. LOL My kids asked their grandpa when he started work. He said he was 10 when he started cultivating corn. Back then, there was no ROPS or anything on the old open tractors. At least now everything we have - including the Gators and mowers have ROPS. It saved my 16 year olds life once! In Iowa - you get your learners permit at 14. You get your school permit at 14.5. All is good. DH asked a trooper if our kids could follow behind him (he would be driving the big equipment - a tractor or combine) with a pickup when they had their permits. Nope. Not until they were 16. And we knew that is what the answer would be. BUT... it was perfectly legal for that kid to drive the HUGE tractor with a 40' implement down the highway and my DH could follow them in the pickup. I don't think kids have any business on golf carts, 4-wheelers, or other ATV's on public roads though - not until they are older. not me lol |
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Post by Miss Lerins Momma on May 24, 2016 23:42:17 GMT
I'm a big fan of following the rules. If you don't follow the rules, then expect consequences. And if those consequences lead to the police being called and then you acting poorly in front of them, then I guess you suffer the consequences of that.
Moral of the story... Follow the rules. Easy Peasy.
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Post by refugeepea on May 25, 2016 1:30:39 GMT
It IS a wonderful country that is so diverse that what is the norm in one community (kids driving vehicles of various sorts) can be considered child abuse in another community. And makes it even more clear why there was such a variety of opinions on this issue. So true! At my kids first elementary school they came on horses, four wheelers, bikes, and cars. That woman seemed clearly drunk and it sounded like the husband had the same problem. So what do you do? I seriously wonder if the 11 year old asked or they hinted he could so they wouldn't have to drive. |
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Post by MerryMom on May 25, 2016 13:22:17 GMT
As the pea who was hit by a child driving a motorized scooter at Disney, resulting in several thousand dollars of surgery to repair an Achilles tendon tear and skin grafts, I will freely admit my bias about this question and say, "no".
This is the point where the situation went off the rails, and this is the statement by this mother “I said, ‘You ought to be ashamed of yourself,’ and I stuck my finger in his face.”
That usually doesn't go over well with law enforcement.
But then the thoughts and opinions of what people feel is acceptable behavior versus what I might think is acceptable behavior or what I would allow my child to do or what I might allow my child to do on our own property versus, say, where others might be affected...well, sometimes, there is a big difference.
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Post by caro on May 25, 2016 13:31:32 GMT
It doesn't matter what anyone's opinion here is about kids driving golf carts. The *fact* of the matter is that where this famil was, kids driving golf carts is ILLEGAL. I totally agree. There are many people in this world who do not understand/comprehend the meaning of ILLEGAL! Very frustrating for me. |
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on May 25, 2016 14:14:50 GMT
Yeah, they broke the law.
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I forgot about the prior pea thread though!!
