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Post by freecharlie on Jun 16, 2016 21:24:11 GMT
I've been requested to fill out a page to help a parent apply for Australian citizenship. The parent is Australian, other parent American and the child was born in the us. A professional has to fill it out (teacher, doctor, dentist, attorney...)
I have no problem filling out the form or given them a copy of my professional license, but do they really need a copy of my drivers license and/or my birth certificate?
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Post by jemmls4 on Jun 16, 2016 22:12:00 GMT
You might try going to the Australian government website. I know for US you can get that kind of info from the Secretary of State/Homeland security about citizenship.
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 16, 2016 22:58:59 GMT
Perhaps they want to verity that someone other than the applicant actually filled it out.
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Post by nepean on Jun 16, 2016 23:22:13 GMT
As an Australian I can tell you that the Australian government is VERY particular about documentation being just right. So if the official paperwork is stating that you are required to give your drivers license / birth certificate copy then they really do want it. It will delay the paperwork is ANYTHING is missing.
I am living in the USA now and you have no idea the hoops I have to go through just to renew my Australian passport, and I am Australian!
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 16, 2016 23:31:35 GMT
I'm confused as to why a "professional" must fill it out. I would assume you would need to fill out your own application. What would my dentist know about me?
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Post by stacmac on Jun 16, 2016 23:42:18 GMT
We're starting this now with my husband and I've been putting it off because it's a lot of work. I'm Australian, he's American and a permanent resident here in aus. If I remember rightly, applying for permanent residency was 72 pages to fill out plus complete medical and education history, full parents details, passports, birth certificates, character references with their passports etc, proof of our relationship, couple of interviews, plus more! Do yes yes, i'd say they definitely want it!  It was a lot of work putting it all together but we submitted a complete application and it was granted quickly. Hope it's the same for citizenship. Fair enough if you don't feel comfortable providing anything but they will probably need to get someone else to complete the application for them. |
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 16, 2016 23:44:21 GMT
I'm confused as to why a "professional" must fill it out. I would assume you would need to fill out your own application. What would my dentist know about me? A Canadian passport application/renewal requires a "guarantor" that had known you for at least 2 years and worked in one of the approved professions (sounds like the same list as the Australian citizenship application). It gives a level of credibility and status to the person verifying the applicant is who they say they are. The guarantor has a whole section of the form that they complete after the applicant has filled out their portion. SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by lucyg on Jun 16, 2016 23:45:43 GMT
Oh. I thought you were just prepping in case of a Trump presidency.  |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 16, 2016 23:53:17 GMT
Thanks for clarifying. Guess I'm not moving to Canada or Australia if Trump is elected. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 17, 2016 1:14:44 GMT
Oh. I thought you were just prepping in case of a Trump presidency. no, it is for a student of mine. He is currently an American citizen, but because of a divorce, the Australian parent wants the kids to have duo citizenship so they can return to Australia. Copy of my professional license is fine (I think this is to prove that he really is who they say he is), but I can't imagine a doctor or dentist or whatever giving a patient a copy of their dl and bc. |
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Post by annabella on Jun 17, 2016 1:31:04 GMT
Perhaps they want to verity that someone other than the applicant actually filled it out. This makes sense. What's the big deal with giving them a copy of your drivers license? It just has your age and address, not your social security number. |
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Post by cookiemum on Jun 17, 2016 1:33:04 GMT
Sounds about right. It's been more than a few years but I remember having to get a professional off a list of examples to identify us as well as sign the backs of photos of us verifying that we were in fact the people in the photos.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 17, 2016 1:36:09 GMT
I have had to do this for friends before, and had friends do it for me.
I think they want someone who has a professional license because the assumption is that they have been vetted by the licensing body.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 17, 2016 1:51:19 GMT
Perhaps they want to verity that someone other than the applicant actually filled it out. This makes sense. What's the big deal with giving them a copy of your drivers license? It just has your age and address, not your social security number. For the New Zealand form, the 'witness' has to be a NZ passport holder, give their passport number, DOB and contact phone numbers so the Internal Affairs dept can verify who they are. I'd imagine this kind of info gathering is pretty standard in this day and age. |
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Post by marimoose on Jun 17, 2016 4:14:07 GMT
Oh. I thought you were just prepping in case of a Trump presidency. Me too  |
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 17, 2016 4:34:19 GMT
Does it actually say that you have to provide a copy of your driver's licence and birth certificate? I thought that you only had to sign a declaration that you are employed in one of the listed professions and provide your name address and contact number. That's what I remember from when a friend was organising citizenship for her husband. ETA: This is a link to the Identity Declaration form from the Department of Immigration and Border Protection site. |
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Post by sueg on Jun 17, 2016 5:58:36 GMT
We're starting this now with my husband and I've been putting it off because it's a lot of work. I'm Australian, he's American and a permanent resident here in aus. If I remember rightly, applying for permanent residency was 72 pages to fill out plus complete medical and education history, full parents details, passports, birth certificates, character references with their passports etc, proof of our relationship, couple of interviews, plus more! Do yes yes, i'd say they definitely want it! It was a lot of work putting it all together but we submitted a complete application and it was granted quickly. Hope it's the same for citizenship. Fair enough if you don't feel comfortable providing anything but they will probably need to get someone else to complete the application for them. As an Australian citizen, who now has permanent resident status in Germany, I will never again complain about German bureaucracy after reading your post! My form here was 4 pages, with proof of employment and a pension fund. |
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