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Post by refugeepea on Jun 21, 2016 17:30:01 GMT
My very small town has had a beauty pageant the last 2, maybe 3 years. My daughter and I saw an ad for it and she said she wanted to enter as a joke for fun. I told her no, I couldn't afford the "flippers" (fake teeth) and the gown and western wear were just too expensive!  It's $35.00 to enter and I thought this requirement was odd. "All contestants must volunteer a minimum of 2 hours. (Or have someone put in volunteer hours for them) In order to make this a great community event we need everyone’s help putting it together. Whether it’s helping with set-up, at check-in, making sashes and decorations or with clean-up. There is lots to do and everyone’s skills can be used somehow. Please go to the link to sign up for your volunteer hours."As far as I know, the winners get a sash and they are done. This is a *low key* event held in a park and is part of the 24th of July/town celebration. So, I doubt they have to even reserve the pavilion. I didn't read anything in the rules that said there are cash prizes or toys. I watched one year and it was hilarious! I enjoyed watching the mothers slightly more. I did have a good laugh at the little red head who threw her stick horse across the stage.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 17:35:57 GMT
If she wanted to enter I would let her since it is just a small town event.
Depending on her age would go to thrift stores to find the clothing.
Heck how old is she and what size. I probably have a prom dress that might fit her. B
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 21, 2016 17:52:20 GMT
If she wanted to enter I would let her since it is just a small town event. Depending on her age would go to thrift stores to find the clothing. Heck how old is she and what size. I probably have a prom dress that might fit her. B She wanted to mock it, so I said no. I did offer to supply pixie sticks and energy drinks if she was serious. I thought it was odd to require volunteers to do the work of a business that profits from the pageant. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 18:18:50 GMT
Whether it’s helping with set-up, at check-in, making sashes and decorations or with clean-up. There is lots to do and everyone’s skills can be used somehow. Please go to the link to sign up for your volunteer hours." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
They list what they need help doing. So I'm not sure what your point is? Even low key events in the park pavillion take some behind the scenes manpower.
Sounds like someone makes the girls sashes, they do a stage with a back drop of some kind - that needs set up and taken apart. Set up a sound system I'd guess which needs set up and taken back. Folding table/chairs for the judges to sit at.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 21, 2016 18:22:40 GMT
I'm sure even things like decorations, sashes etc cost money. I think it's a great idea to make it a community event.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 21, 2016 18:37:53 GMT
My kids' babysitter was totally into pageants for her daughter. She even put on a few of them herself. She begged me to let one of my sons enter because she needed boys to compete. I didn't like the idea anyway, but he absolutely refused and also his younger brother wasn't asked and that pissed me off.
Anyway, when her daughter competed she had to sell a certain number of tickets to the pageant. It seems pageants are pretty much funded by the participants, at least the ones I knew about.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 21, 2016 18:39:38 GMT
o I'm not sure what your point is? Even low key events in the park pavillion take some behind the scenes manpower. Sounds like someone makes the girls sashes, they do a stage with a back drop of some kind - that needs set up and taken apart. Set up a sound system I'd guess which needs set up and taken back. Folding table/chairs for the judges to sit at. It's an event that is part of a town celebration, but it's run by a beauty pageant business that profits from the event. So I thought the $35.00 fee would easily cover their expenses. It's less than an hour. If it doesn't, they should charge more. I don't see it as any different than a food truck or a small business selling their merchandise at the park. They are part of the event too. Maybe they should require volunteers so it can turn out great.  Or hire more people. |
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 21, 2016 18:44:59 GMT
Anyway, when her daughter competed she had to sell a certain number of tickets to the pageant. It seems pageants are pretty much funded by the participants, at least the ones I knew about. Interesting. It's something new to me. I've had kids play sports and do other things. It's always been an upfront fee and then you are done. I guess I've always thought of beauty pageants as a for profit business, so if you can't pay the fees, you don't compete. |
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Post by scorpeao on Jun 21, 2016 18:47:36 GMT
Anyway, when her daughter competed she had to sell a certain number of tickets to the pageant. It seems pageants are pretty much funded by the participants, at least the ones I knew about. Interesting. It's something new to me. I've had kids play sports and do other things. It's always been an upfront fee and then you are done. I guess I've always thought of beauty pageants as a for profit business, so if you can't pay the fees, you don't compete. In my town sports and other activities require an upfront fee in addition to volunteer hours, so the pageant doesn't surprise me. It sounds as if this is an event to introduce girls to the pageant circuit. |
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 21, 2016 18:53:00 GMT
In my town sports and other activities require an upfront fee in addition to volunteer hours, so the pageant doesn't surprise me. It sounds as if this is an event to introduce girls to the pageant circuit. Makes sense, except no sports here require volunteer hours. |
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Post by scorpeao on Jun 21, 2016 18:53:57 GMT
In my town sports and other activities require an upfront fee in addition to volunteer hours, so the pageant doesn't surprise me. It sounds as if this is an event to introduce girls to the pageant circuit. Makes sense, except no sports here require volunteer hours. Must be nice because I HATED the stupid snack bar with a white hot passion.... |
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 21, 2016 18:56:23 GMT
Makes sense, except no sports here require volunteer hours. Must be nice because I HATED the stupid snack bar with a white hot passion.... I think that's the difference! No snack bar! There is one bigger sports park that has a concession stand that's only open for baseball games. I honestly don't know how that works. My son played a couple of summers, but that wasn't a requirement. |
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Post by cmpeter on Jun 21, 2016 18:57:34 GMT
Just because they are charging $35 doesn't mean it's a for profit event. Could be that just covers things like insurance, space rental, etc.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 21, 2016 19:04:10 GMT
Just because they are charging $35 doesn't mean it's a for profit event. Could be that just covers things like insurance, space rental, etc. I don't know, I could be wrong on the fees. It's such a short event and the only decorations they have is a banner across the front of the pavilion. It is a small town, so I can't see it being extremely expensive to rent. I did not think about insurance. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 19:06:32 GMT
In my town sports and other activities require an upfront fee in addition to volunteer hours, so the pageant doesn't surprise me. It sounds as if this is an event to introduce girls to the pageant circuit. Makes sense, except no sports here require volunteer hours. Here Baseball and football require tons of volunteers until they start playing for a school. I think the girls softball teams still have volunteers since they don't get a lot funds. |
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jun 21, 2016 22:23:10 GMT
My daughter does pageants and currently holds 2 titles. She does pageants that are benefit pageants for something (scholarships, Relay for Life, humane society, etc). She prefers to be part of the sisterhood and have community service opportunities while serving her title vs just getting a crown and sash and that's it.
There are different types of pageants. The ones that have what you mentioned, the "flippers", are called glitz pageants and are the kind you'd see on Toddlers and Tiaras. Then there are what are considered natural pageants. The difference between the two are significant - requirements, attire, what is and isn't allowed, etc.
It sounds like the one you are talking about is not a glitz pageant. Does that mean there won't be girls that are glitz regulars? No. It just means it most likely won't be the stuff you see on T&T.
$35 per entry will most likely just cover the trophies, sashes and tiaras. I held one last fall and I charged $75 entry fee. I had to scale down my initial vision because we didn't pull the numbers we had thought. I did have a large rental fee, doesn't sound like your even would have that.
As for volunteering, it takes a lot to put anything on, including a pageant. All help is appreciated.
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Post by bigbundt on Jun 21, 2016 22:25:09 GMT
I haven't put my girls in a pageant so I don't know for sure but that entry fee sounds really low. Maybe in order to get the entry fee that low, they need people to volunteer rather than having to pay someone to do it. I do a kids consignment sale and if I want a larger percentage of my sales, I can volunteer a certain number of hours at the sale (or setting up/breaking down). This is a for profit sale for the organization who puts it on and I have to pay a consignor fee to sell there.
I think it is great that they are making this a community event. Because of that they may also be trying to dissuade "professionals" from just blowing into town and entering, they want the participants to put some skin in the game, so to speak.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 21, 2016 22:31:01 GMT
I haven't put my girls in a pageant so I don't know for sure but that entry fee sounds really low. Maybe in order to get the entry fee that low, they need people to volunteer rather than having to pay someone to do it. I do a kids consignment sale and if I want a larger percentage of my sales, I can volunteer a certain number of hours at the sale (or setting up/breaking down). This is a for profit sale for the organization who puts it on and I have to pay a consignor fee to sell there. I think it is great that they are making this a community event. Because of that they may also be trying to dissuade "professionals" from just blowing into town and entering, they want the participants to put some skin in the game, so to speak. I agree. $35 seems crazy cheap. But if your DD is just going to mock it, she definitely shouldn't sign up. It's may not be your thing (and it's not my thing), but it's a big deal to some. |
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 21, 2016 23:12:56 GMT
One of my kids is in a select/club sport that has mandatory volunteer hours too. It's grating to pay thousands per year and still have to "work". But if people didn't it would be impossible to host events.
They tried to offer service hour opportunities through the team but that was a failure. The kids want to volunteer elsewhere to get those requirements after spending so much time together.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 21, 2016 23:54:44 GMT
Just because they are charging $35 doesn't mean it's a for profit event. Could be that just covers things like insurance, space rental, etc. Yep, our 4-H events aren't for profit, but we still need to charge for them. We have retreats for the kids and we still have to pay for the venue, the hook ups for RVs/campers, the food, insurance on each person, etc. We do as much for free as we can, but just about any event costs something  |
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 22, 2016 0:37:28 GMT
I agree. $35 seems crazy cheap. But if your DD is just going to mock it, she definitely shouldn't sign up. It's may not be your thing (and it's not my thing), but it's a big deal to some. |
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 22, 2016 0:39:04 GMT
Yep, our 4-H events aren't for profit, but we still need to charge for them. We have retreats for the kids and we still have to pay for the venue, the hook ups for RVs/campers, the food, insurance on each person, etc. We do as much for free as we can, but just about any event costs something I understand having to charge the fees. I do! It seems to be such a simple event though. |
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Or hire more people. 
