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Post by shaniam on Jul 4, 2016 17:14:05 GMT
Do you have adult children living at home? What kind of guidelines do you have for them? We have been trying to let them be adults and take care of themselves but what we are doing is not working. I am in a constant state of frustration with them. They kept their rooms and bathroom cleaner when they were little. I am thinking about implementing a rent fee so I can pay a maid. I refuse to clean their areas. I really would like for them to be able to stay here and save their money for their future and pay off college debt but not like this. I do not try to tell them how to live their lives and tell them what to do or not do. I am tired of having to tell them to do the few chores they are assigned to do though. They are 24 and 22 (we also have a 17 year old who does a better job). The oldest just graduated from college and has student loans to pay for. The middle son has been saving his money and plans to go back to school this fall.
I understand why birds push their babies out of the nest! Just wondering what others do that work for them.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 4, 2016 17:16:37 GMT
Sit down and make a contract with them. I lived at home after college for a year and paid rent. Set the boundaries NOW or it's going to get worse. If they don't like it--they can move.
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Post by gailoh on Jul 4, 2016 17:17:38 GMT
Do they have jobs? If so they start to pay rent and tell them if you have all the jobs to do they pay service fees as well...good luck
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Post by leeny on Jul 4, 2016 17:26:26 GMT
Been there done that. Had to kick one out because it was causing too much drama. And you know what, he has survived! If they can't act like responsible adults and appreciate and respect what you are doing to help them, it is time to go.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 4, 2016 17:27:31 GMT
I moved back home at 21 to finish my degree and save money. My parents always had chores. They didn't attempt to control anything g else. It was let us know if you plan to be home for dinner and let us know when you might be coming home at night. But there were always chores that needed to be done. And if they aren't doing it...I would have no problem telling them they need to pay some rent to cover the cost of housekeeping. I think that's very fair.
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Post by calgal08 on Jul 4, 2016 17:32:02 GMT
Why are they not paying rent? The minute I left school I got a job and immediately paid monthly rent until I moved out.
Your kids need to understand responsibility, this includes not only paying your way but also cleaning up after themselves. Don't enable them. They have a choice, either live by your rules or move out.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 4, 2016 17:51:43 GMT
They need to be paying rent. DD lived at home for 18 months after she graduated. As soon as she had a job, she went off the family phone plan and get her own plan. She also had to turn over her gas card and fund that herself. We also figured out what she would be paying rent for a 1 bedroom apartment and charged her that every month. That money was set aside for her and given to her when she moved out. That provided her all the money for deposits and moving costs. (All of this was implemented over a period of 6 months). 3 years later and she is out on her own and fully independent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 18:31:02 GMT
DD moved back home. She's applied to grad school and has been working and saving her money for that. She uses her own spending money and we don't charge her for rent or food. We know what she's working and saving towards so we are okay supporting her in that way as long as it's not a major hardship on us. She is expected to help around the house and knows that the requirement for living at home is that she has to be working towards achieving something. If she wasn't or was taking advantage of the situation, we would definitely charge her rent.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 4, 2016 18:38:15 GMT
Technically I have one. He just graduated from high school and will be leaving in August for college.
He does work, and he splits his time between here and his dad's house. Because there is such a short time between when he was done with high school and leaves for college, I don't have any rules for him beyond letting me know if he will be at my house for dinner or where he is planning on sleeping for the night.
But if he was staying here for any length of time, there would be other guidelines I would put in place.
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 4, 2016 18:48:26 GMT
If you act like an adult, you will be treated like an adult. If you act like a 12 year old, I will treat you like a 12 year old and leave you a to-do list every day. Your choice.
Unfortunately DD decided to act like a 12 yo. She is an incredibly hard worker and pulls more than her weight...everywhere outside of our household. So we asked her to move out. And it was the best thing for her and for our relationship with her. She is thriving and doing wonderfully.
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Post by freebird on Jul 4, 2016 18:53:23 GMT
Everyone that lives in my house, contributes to my house. So, I'd assign some tasks (not chores, no chore charts or allowances). If they don't do their tasks they run the risk of being kicked out of the house. I might also charge them a small amount of rent (like $150/mo) and then just save it for them for when they go to buy a house - but don't tell them that's what you're doing. Don't let them tell you "I'm paying rent, so I'll do what I want." Because rent is paying for electricity, water, (probably food) and the inability to use that room for the drum set I've been dreaming about since I was 23.
My step son lived with us for a year. He has some MAJOR ISSUES. It was like I was making him an indentured servant to vacuum the floor and put the dishes away from the dishwasher. No lie, that's the job you give the 7 year old. (He was 27 at the time). We only made it about 4 months and that's when I started going crazy. By 1 year I had decided he was moving or I was - and I meant it.
So basically, if you don't contribute, I feel taken advantage of. I don't care who gave you life, once you start sucking life out of me then we need a plan B.
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Post by gar on Jul 4, 2016 18:55:04 GMT
I had a chat with DD when she came home after uni. I told her that she wasn't my 'little girl' any more, but a fully grown, fully functioning adult sharing our home and she needed to take her share of the responsibilities. She'd lived away so she knew how a house functioned so if a bin needed emptying I expected her to do it, I expected her to clean the bathroom sometimes, vacuum sometimes and so on. She pays rent....I don't consider it does an adult child any favours not to. It's not full rate and she'll get it back but she doesn't know that:smile:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 19:01:47 GMT
If you have communicated to them how frustrated you are with their behavior in your home, they need to go. You don't need to live with that.
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Post by nepean on Jul 4, 2016 19:02:56 GMT
When I was a very young adult living at home with my parents, from the moment I started working I had to pay them 15% of whatever I earned. It was not much when you consider rent and other living expenses, but it help me learn to start to take responsibility. It also helped them a little with the extra money. Also it was their house, their rules. If I was disrespectful either of their home or them, I would have been in trouble. I plan to do the same with my own kids. If they are living at home, and they work (and they will be expected to work through college) they will be expected to contribute, and be respectful.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 4, 2016 19:12:09 GMT
We have a 30 year-old son still at home. He has worked since the month after he graduated from high school, all through college and is now an accountant. We sat him down when he decided to stay local for college and said he could live at home as long as he was saving his money for a townhouse. He amassed an amazing amount of money and was fortunate enough to buy a townhouse last year. He has tenants who will move out this fall and he will move in. He is very respectful, keeps his room and bathroom relatively clean and contributes to household expenses. We have never asked him to pay rent because otherwise he never would have been able to afford to live in the Bay Area. That was our choice and we are happy with it. We get along great, love to watch sports with him and will miss him when he moves out.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jul 4, 2016 19:31:41 GMT
My best advice is to decide what you want or can/cannot live with and let the rest go. Three of my four are adults and they all still live here. They are all fairly easy to live with although it wasn't always the case.
Just last summer my now 19 yo and I were at each other's throats and he was out of the house for about 4-5 months. He came back like a new person - he is much more respectful and at the same time I realized I had a few changes to make too.
Mine are all abnormally neat (aside from 1.) His room is very cluttered, but not unsanitary (he keeps the door closed, which is probably for the best, lol.) Sometimes they need a reminder to clean the shared bathroom, but I just tell one that is around when I notice to do the cleaning and it gets done (I do specify it should be done that day.) Otherwise they're all good about cleaning up after themselves (washing dishes used, etc.)
We are sometimes hit or miss with the oldest and whether she texts if she's out all night. I think it's just common courtesy...i'm a worrier and like to know that they aren't in a ditch somewhere. The big deal around here is not making me worry, if you aren't coming home, just send a text. Cleaning up after yourself is another. On occasion they're annoying, but for the most part I enjoy having them around still.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jul 4, 2016 19:33:35 GMT
I think they should pay rent.
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Post by cmpeter on Jul 4, 2016 19:50:45 GMT
My 20 year old lives at home, works part time and goes to college full time. He's not great about proactively doing things but will gladly help out with whatever I ask. His bedroom and bathroom are downstairs, so I don't see those often.
He can live at home rent free until he graduates. He's welcome to stay longer as long as he continues to be a respectful contributing member of the family. It's really not his nature to be any different though.
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Post by Linda on Jul 4, 2016 20:17:43 GMT
mine moved out last November when he went to boot camp (he's now in Japan with the Navy). He paid rent (150/mth) once he was no longer in school. He was expected to keep his room reasonably clean (no dishes, no food trash, hoover it at least a couple of times a month). He cooked dinner once a week (he planned the meal, bought the ingredients, and cooked). He helped with driving and was usually helpful around the house but needed to be asked "hey can you run the hoover" or "the trash needs to go out please" - he didn't always notice it needed doing on his own.
I will say when he came home on leave after A-school in March - I was sick and didn't get the house up to my standards before he came home. I went to the doctor the first morning he was home (pneumonia) and came home to a clean house - he did dishes, took out the trash, stripped and made MY bed, cleaned MY bathroom, tidied and hoovered the main parts of the house plus my room....so sweet and such a nice surprise!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 21:37:34 GMT
I say implement the fee and if they balk, they can feel free to be more independent and find a new place.
I don't like young adult mooches. It just rubs me the wrong way. Your first apartment is supposed to be non-palatial and slightly uncomfortable. That's what motivates you to make something of yourself and move on up.
My son will be out of luck if this is his plan.
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Post by myboysnme on Jul 4, 2016 22:45:24 GMT
I have one at home and one moving home in August. Both are college students. I don't require anything at all. I do make requests like take your trash out, bring your dishes down from your room, lock the door when you come in late, that sort of thing.
My mom used to collect $50 a week from me and other than that she had no expectations. Of course I wasn't a total slob or anything.
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Post by wonderwoman on Jul 4, 2016 22:49:39 GMT
Why are they not paying rent? The minute I left school I got a job and immediately paid monthly rent until I moved out. Your kids need to understand responsibility, this includes not only paying your way but also cleaning up after themselves. Don't enable them. They have a choice, either live by your rules or move out. Exactly ~
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 22:58:04 GMT
I think they should pay rent but absolutely no way should that be used to get a cleaning service to clean up after their slobby selves.
Cleaning up their living spaces and contributing the the functioning of the rest of the house is the absolute base minimum they should be doing and they should pay rent in addition to that.
Give them a written list of their daily/weekly responsibilities and if they refuse to comply, they have 8 weeks to move out.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 5, 2016 1:39:15 GMT
I have 2 home right now. One is home on college summer break, and going back in the fall. She does really good. She helps out around the house, and is working 3 jobs for tuition. No way would I charge her rent. oldest dd graduated from college last May. She worked about 7 mo's at a min wage job, and just 3 mo's ago got a good salaried career job. She will live at home until she can save up some money to get an apt and pay the deposit, and buy some furniture, etc. She is also paying her college private and federal loans. She has chores here at home, stuff she is in charge of. She is not the best housekeeper. Her room is usually a mess, and she needs some reminders, but we actually love having her. She can't wait to move out on her own, but she understands the reality of it.
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Post by tincin on Jul 5, 2016 2:03:16 GMT
I have two adult sons and a DIL living with me. We sat down and discussed expectations before I let them move in. When they fail to do what is expected of them, I call a family meeting and repeat what is expected of them. They have to clean the house once a week (they rotate turns) and they have to cook meal a week and do those dishes. Since I pay the bills, mortgage, electricity, etc. I do no house cleaning or dishes. It is the golden rule, she who has the gold rules.
Sit them down, have a family meeting and set down the rules. The door only locks from one side so they are free to find other accommodations if they don't like the ones you offer. If they expect to be treated as adults, they need to act like adults.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 5, 2016 2:14:59 GMT
I have a DS home from college for the summer. He hasn't found a job, so he's doing a ton of stuff around the house. Basically DH's jobs, plus some extra things I want to get done while I'm off for the summer. We are moving next summer and I'm cleaning out closets and such. His job is to list things on Craigslist/ebay/consignment sales and I'm giving him a cut of the profit. He wants to live in a nicer dorm next year and he has to pay the difference, so he is motivated to do the work.
We make a basic plan for the week, then I let him get it done on his timeline. Which is usually the last minute, but it's done. His mess stays in his room. I'll do his laundry if he bring it to me when I'm doing the rest of the family's laundry. Otherwise he does his own.
I usually do a 15 Minute Tidy Up around dinner time. Everyone picks a chore and we work for 15 minutes. It seems to motivate both the kids, as we are all working. They take turns cleaning their bathroom once a week. It's not up to my standards, but I don't use it either. We had some work done on the shower a few weeks ago and I made them scrub until the room was spotless. Other than that, I figure it's not any dirtier than a college dorm bathroom.
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Post by dealsamongus on Jul 5, 2016 3:31:51 GMT
My father wanted me out after high school and short of a few circumstances I am not allowed to move back in with him.. I am almost 41 though so it makes sense.
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Post by momstime on Jul 5, 2016 13:32:12 GMT
I have a 20 year old working college student living at home. He is a joy to live with, and I never want him to leave. His bathroom is probably a disaster, but I don't have to go up there and look at it, so that's on him. Often his girlfriend will clean it up for him whenever it gets too gross for her. Not my business. I tend to the other bathrooms in the house. He comes and goes as he sees fit. He was my child who didn't go away to school, and I want him to have the same freedoms the others had living a campus life. He is saving me a boatload of money!!!!
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Post by uksue on Jul 5, 2016 13:44:20 GMT
Both my older children have paid rent since they became employed ( dependant in income ) and both are expected to clean their own rooms and the bathroom they share (although inevitably my daughter gets left with the bathroom cleaning most of the time .) My daughter will cook and shop occasionally and my son helps out with the garden.
My son is on fairly low wages and his girlfriend is expecting a baby . They plan on moving in together closer to the birth and like Gar, I started saving up what he gives me and he'll get it back when he leaves ( but he doesn't know that .)
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Post by christine58 on Jul 5, 2016 14:02:12 GMT
I have a 20 year old working college student living at home. He is a joy to live with, and I never want him to leave. His bathroom is probably a disaster, but I don't have to go up there and look at it, so that's on him. Often his girlfriend will clean it up for him whenever it gets too gross for her. Not my business. I tend to the other bathrooms in the house. He comes and goes as he sees fit. He was my child who didn't go away to school, and I want him to have the same freedoms the others had living a campus life. He is saving me a boatload of money!!!! See that's different than the OP. You aren't frustrated etc. Sounds like what you're doing is working but what shaniam is doing is not.
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