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Post by LilyRose on Jul 13, 2016 14:29:47 GMT
I am currently in the process of buying a new heating and AC unit. Ugh, talk about something being out of my wheelhouse, lol. But I'm powering through and will hopefully give the go-ahead to someone today.
Regardless of what type of work is being done in our home (remodel, landscaping, new pool), I think it's common to look for someone who is licensed and insured. I ask potential candidates if they are, and I typically get "yes". I'm curious if you ask them to provide proof of insurance, and in what way.
My my mom had a situation years ago with someone who was painting the house. It involved using a ladder and doing work right near the point the power lines attached to the side of the house. In their negotiations, he said he was insured (seemed extra-important in this case, given the work being done). Before he started (but after giving him a deposit), she asked for proof and only then did he say he was not insured, and got very angry with her for insisting. Lesson learned, for sure.
So I'm wondering if proof of insurance is important to you when having work done in your home?
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IAmUnoriginal
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Jul 13, 2016 14:56:46 GMT
Because I work in the insurance industry, yes, it is important to me. I ask for a Certificate of Insurance with my name listed as the Certificate Holder from any contractor I use who is not a client in my office. (If they are a client in my office, I am probably more familiar with their policy than the contractor is.) If a contractor won't provide a certificate, I won't do business with them. We advise our clients to always, always ask for a certificate and file it away with their paperwork from the project. If a workmanship issue comes up down the road, you have the contractor's policy number and insurance company contact information right there from the date of your project. Makes your world a whole lot easier if you have to file a claim against the contractor for any reason.
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Post by basketdiva on Jul 13, 2016 15:02:07 GMT
Before signing a contract, look them up on your state's data base. The license number should be on the bid and the business card. In order to be licensed ( at least in the states I've lived) you must have insurance. Don't always rely on the contractor to be truthful. Legimate companies will gladly give you their license number and the state database info so you can do your own research.
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momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jul 13, 2016 15:04:47 GMT
My husband is an electrical contractor (mainly commercial) so they always require proof of insurance. Agent handles it, dh calls them and they send a certificate, I believe directly to whoever needs it and we get a copy.
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Post by peace on Jul 13, 2016 15:15:54 GMT
It is VERY important. We had a painter that caused major water damage to our house we were rebuilding after a fire. EX hired his niece's husband to paint and while he SAID he was insured, he was not. Never again.
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IAmUnoriginal
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Jul 13, 2016 15:16:08 GMT
If you've never seen a Certificate of Insurance, I put together one real quick. Most insurance companies use Acord forms for their certs and they look very similar, depending on the version of the form they have. The part you care about most as a consumer is the General Liability portion. The limits shown on this certificate are pretty common.
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Post by LilyRose on Jul 13, 2016 15:19:08 GMT
If you've never seen a Certificate of Insurance, I put together one real quick. Most insurance companies use Acord forms for their certs and they look very similar, depending on the version of the form they have. The part you care about most as a consumer is the General Liability portion. The limits shown on this certificate are pretty common. That's so helpful! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by hennybutton on Jul 13, 2016 15:21:05 GMT
What about Worker's Compensation? Can you ask for certification of that.
Honestly, I really worry about what happens if a worker gets injured on the job. The contractors we have hired say they are insured, but I do wonder if that covers workplace injuries.
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IAmUnoriginal
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Jul 13, 2016 15:28:03 GMT
Yes, you can ask for that, too. But, every state has different rules when it comes to WC and who is required to carry coverage and who isn't. WC coverage is very complicated because of relationships between general and subcontractors, the ability of owners and officers (who may be on your roof) to waive coverage for themselves and a whole bunch of variables.
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Post by Peamac on Jul 13, 2016 16:25:19 GMT
DH does appliance repair. In our state, there is no license for that (every state is different). I'm sure a license is required for general contracting and bigger jobs like renovations, etc. DH carries a copy of his business insurance policy with him (it looks like the one IAmUnoriginal posted). He doesn't have specific clients listed as additional insured or certificate holders, because he sees several each day.(Except for a billionaire's house in Aspen that he has done quite a bit of work for, and they require it of all the people who work there.) He does have specific property managers and warranty companies listed on some for those jobs, since they are required. In CO, if you have very few employees, you are not required to have workman's comp. Because DH is the only employee (and also the owner), he does not need it. We can show a note on company letterhead stating such (and that we will not hold the property manager/owner/warranty company liable if something should happen), and there is also an exemption certificate we can print out showing it is not required for us. I'd also check the BBB for your area, but keep in mind that if a company isn't listed, it just means that they didn't want to pay the fee required to be on their list. Did you know there's a fee for that? I didn't know that until last year when I was checking into those things. If a company is listed with the BBB, check out the "problem resolutions" section or whatever it's called. CHeck facebook, Yelp, Angie's List, etc. Just keep in mind that a lack of reviews doesn't mean poor work- it can just mean that they are not as social media savvy as other companies, or that their clients didn't remember to leave a review. I do look at negative comments and reviews (and the dates, as sometimes a change in management can make a huge difference).
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Jul 13, 2016 16:31:48 GMT
What about Worker's Compensation? Can you ask for certification of that. Honestly, I really worry about what happens if a worker gets injured on the job. The contractors we have hired say they are insured, but I do wonder if that covers workplace injuries. You should be able to ask them for a copy of their WC policy to make sure they are insured. Just keep in mind that it's probably in a file in the office, so they may need a few days' warning to have it with them to show you.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 13, 2016 17:42:10 GMT
We had a fifth bedroom and a deck put on our house. My husband knew the contractor, but he still came with all of the paperwork to show us his coverage. I think a good one will do that. They were in our house for three months, so that was especially important. They also took our dog outside at lunch to sit with them so she could get some fresh air. It was a win-win.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Jul 13, 2016 19:31:03 GMT
I would want it.
Also, check to see if the contractor is certified by the heating and a/c unit manufacturer of the unit being installed. There are two different lengths of warranty time with the one manufacturer I know. The length of warranty is much longer with the certified installer.
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