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Post by bc2ca on Jul 23, 2016 17:21:31 GMT
This is what I learned today: you can be president and still run your business. My theory had always been that Trump was running for president for brand development purposes and never wanted to win the nomination because of the impact it would have on his ability to run the Trump Organization. I had no idea he could do both  . I always thought a president had to establish a blind trust, but that is just what most (all?) previous presidents with substantial assets have done to avoid any conflict of interest situations. Boston Globe story
Given the stories about how Trump picked his running mate and the alleged offer that was made to Kasich, it sounds like the presidency will just be another business that Trump overseas, leaving domestic and foreign policy decisions to his VP. From Paul Matafort in this article: “He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”And from this NYTimes article: But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?
When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.
Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?
“Making America great again” was the casual reply.What do you think of a president having a second job? I personally hope he would step away from the Trump Organization and spend all his time & energy on running the country. |
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Post by katybee on Jul 23, 2016 17:25:55 GMT
I've said before: I don't think Donald Trump will make it through his first term. He likes the IDEA ot being president. But from everything I've read, he does not like hard work (despite what he says). He has a very short attention span. He doesn't like to read. I just fear the damage he will do before he pulls a Sarah Palin and resigns...
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Post by bc2ca on Jul 23, 2016 17:39:26 GMT
I've said before: I don't think Donald Trump will make it through his first term. He likes the IDEA ot being president. But from everything I've read, he does not like hard work (despite what he says). He has a very short attention span. He doesn't like to read. I just fear the damage he will do before he pulls a Sarah Palin and resigns… I think this is exactly why he is looking for a VP to essentially do the job of president, while he hangs onto to the title. SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:43:18 GMT
I'd rather our country be run by someone who isn't a trust fund baby that puts our country first rather than his business.
Most of his projects have also relied on public assistance (i.e. federal funding and tax breaks), so I'm not sure how that would work during the horror of a Trump presidency.
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 23, 2016 18:20:19 GMT
I'd rather have Pence in charge and if this leaked story is true, I think Republicans who were not going to vote or vote third party would change their minds.
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Post by annabella on Jul 23, 2016 19:38:33 GMT
I always thought Trump was bored with his businesses, enjoyed the fame he got from the Apprentice and thought it would be fun to run for President, then saw how much it fed his ego he kept on. With his heavy campaign schedule, I'm sure he's already stepped away from his work and delegated a lot of it. And his sons work for him. I was reading a list of old quotes Donald said about marriage and he said that Marla complained that he worked too many hours and was never home and he said, "do you enjoy riding around in my helicopter, then don't complain about my hours." He said he was a work-a-holic. Most of his projects have also relied on public assistance (i.e. federal funding and tax breaks), so I'm not sure how that would work during the horror of a Trump presidency. That's not a bad thing, it means he knows how to work the system to use as less of his money as possible. My city has a huge construction boom going on right now. Entire blocks are being torn down and new office buildings are being built. However, they keep the brick facade of the old townhouses that were there before because they get tax breaks for restoring old houses. So they are saving money, but it looks weird to have all theses glass office buildings with a bunch of brick townhouses on the first floor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 19:49:27 GMT
I always thought Trump was bored with his businesses, enjoyed the fame he got from the Apprentice and thought it would be fun to run for President, then saw how much it fed his ego he kept on. With his heavy campaign schedule, I'm sure he's already stepped away from his work and delegated a lot of it. And his sons work for him. I was reading a list of old quotes Donald said about marriage and he said that Marla complained that he worked too many hours and was never home and he said, "do you enjoy riding around in my helicopter, then don't complain about my hours." He said he was a work-a-holic. Most of his projects have also relied on public assistance (i.e. federal funding and tax breaks), so I'm not sure how that would work during the horror of a Trump presidency. That's not a bad thing, it means he knows how to work the system to use as less of his money as possible. My city has a huge construction boom going on right now. Entire blocks are being torn down and new office buildings are being built. However, they keep the brick facade of the old townhouses that were there before because they get tax breaks for restoring old houses. So they are saving money, but it looks weird to have all theses glass office buildings with a bunch of brick townhouses on the first floor. It's called "conflict of interest" in government work......you can't do it and personally I'd prefer our country being run by someone other than a bunch of entitled trust fund kids. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 23, 2016 20:27:14 GMT
What do you think of a president having a second job? I'm not sure yet. The original intention was that our president would have another job and that gave them something to go back to when they left office. Most of them were farmers and didn't stop having productive farms just because they served as president. In some ways, this idea appeals to me when applied to Trump. Delegator-in-Chief is a role he is superbly trained for and I think approaching the running of the country from a business model could really turn things around quickly in this stagnating economy. What it could do for his company? I have no idea. Considering the wealth his opponent has amassed through high political office, I fully expect that she will personally only profit extremely more if she is elected as president. Either one is unlike any situation we have ever had before. |
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Post by txdancermom on Jul 23, 2016 22:01:35 GMT
imho being president is the full time job - it is not something you can do part time, or appoint a manager. yes, in the beginning most of the presidents had farms, but that was the norm in those days, they had family or managers that took care of it for them.
it scares me that he might continue to run his business along with the company - say there is a crisis that would cause a major loss for the company, and a national crisis - which one would he deal with?? Would he take care of the country first and then his business? not sure that he would. Of course it might depend on which one would make him look better.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 25, 2016 2:39:24 GMT
Jeez. I always thought they had to give up outside business interests while in office. If he doesn't have to, he won't.
I am just horrified at the idea of a Trump presidency. I doubt there's anything he can do at this point to change that.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 25, 2016 5:00:21 GMT
I always believed from the beginning that running for President served his interests first and only. I have no doubt he would milk that position for any advantage it would give any of his businesses.
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Post by Nink on Jul 25, 2016 5:01:44 GMT
Not without a conflict of interest at some point, I'd imagine.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 25, 2016 11:58:11 GMT
I've said before: I don't think Donald Trump will make it through his first term. He likes the IDEA ot being president. But from everything I've read, he does not like hard work (despite what he says). He has a very short attention span. He doesn't like to read. I just fear the damage he will do before he pulls a Sarah Palin and resigns... Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. He hasn't even been elected. So, let's not let that happen.  . |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 25, 2016 12:06:42 GMT
Putting someone else in charge of various duties that the president typically has seems right up Trump's alley. He can blame someone else if things go wrong, but take credit when things go right. He can spend his time calling the media every five minutes and ranting about something (or talking about how great he is). However, I don't see him giving complete control to someone else. There are certain duties that he would not be able to shirk, which are some of the more scary ones (meetings and comments that would damage our relationships with other countries, statements after crisis, etc).
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Post by imsirius on Jul 25, 2016 13:44:28 GMT
I've read the same about Trump. He's lazy. He doesn't like to do the work himself. He has the attention span of a gnat. He can't focus on one thing at a time. He takes credit for things he's never done (like writing his books).
People who have spent a lot of time with him have said he's a sociopath. He doesn't feel, doesn't care, doesn't know how to socialize with people in a "normal way".
I think he would also resign. It's going to be more work than he thinks it is. He's not capable of being in charge of his own businesses, never mind your whole country. It's a scary thought for the entire world if he wins.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 25, 2016 14:39:33 GMT
What's scary too is his kids--they are advising him and making contacts (I.e. Kasich) reaching out behind the scenes to make deals. I don't for see that stopping.
Right now, he uses his companies (travel, homes, son's wine dustributing) or creates companies (I.e. Personalized bottled water) for the campaign trail and then bills the Rep party for reimbursement at what seems to be very expensive rates.
I foresee him consulting his kids and family to start up businesses that will benefit if he were to make it to president where those businesses would benefit (aka Cheney/Halliburton).
He's in this for how much he can make for himself personally.
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Post by jayfab on Jul 25, 2016 15:16:38 GMT
What's scary too is his kids--they are advising him and making contacts (I.e. Kasich) reaching out behind the scenes to make deals. I don't for see that stopping. Right now, he uses his companies (travel, homes, son's wine dustributing) or creates companies (I.e. Personalized bottled water) for the campaign trail and then bills the Rep party for reimbursement at what seems to be very expensive rates. I foresee him consulting his kids and family to start up businesses that will benefit if he were to make it to president where those businesses would benefit (aka Cheney/Halliburton). He's in this for how much he can make for himself personally. Yup. They are making money from this election. Ivanka already did it. She tweeted a link to by the dress she wore during her speech the next morning. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 25, 2016 15:26:04 GMT
Is anyone concerned about Trump's relationship with Putin at this point and the speculation that Russia had something to do with the leaked emails?
If anyone thinks that Trump is running for president for any other reason than to help himself, they are mistaken.
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Post by jayfab on Jul 25, 2016 16:52:10 GMT
Is anyone concerned about Trump's relationship with Putin at this point and the speculation that Russia had something to do with the leaked emails? If anyone thinks that Trump is running for president for any other reason than to help himself, they are mistaken. Yes, I am. I posted a link to some very unsettling info about the Trump - Putin bromance in another thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 17:02:05 GMT
Wow. I continue to be pretty embarrassed in terms of what the rest of the world thinks of us right now.
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. I always thought a president had to establish a blind trust, but that is just what most (all?) previous presidents with substantial assets have done to avoid any conflict of interest situations.
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