grinningcat
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Post by grinningcat on Jul 28, 2016 11:44:18 GMT
SourceAnyone who beats their child does not deserve to be a parent. Period. I am sick and tired of these asshole parents who think it's acceptable to assault their children. It's even worse when they think it's acceptable to broadcast it in any form and then demand that people "make it viral". These days, people like this make me sick.
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Post by johnnysmom on Jul 28, 2016 11:55:57 GMT
Wait so the mother recorded herself beating her daughter then asked people to make it viral? On top of child abuse she should be jailed for stupidity. Good grief.
Of course the Apple didn't fall far from the tree. Posting pics of your boyfriend in a towel and details of your sex life on Facebook? Seriously?
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 28, 2016 12:01:40 GMT
I have no words.
How can that mother not be arrested? She assaulted her daughter and had it filmed, then broadcasted it online.
So, if she was beating a sixteen year old female neighbor, filmed it, and put it on Facebook, would the police say that is still okay?
No? But it's okay because you gave birth to your victim?!?!?!?!
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 28, 2016 12:06:44 GMT
The video is on social media. I could not watch it to the end, it is so disturbing. My heart breaks for that young lady, I hope there is someone in her life than can intervene, get her into counseling and a safe environment.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jul 28, 2016 12:13:16 GMT
There was another person in the room filming it?
So she was abusing another child, or two adults were part of the abuse.
Not going to watch
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Post by grinningcat on Jul 28, 2016 12:17:00 GMT
There's no way in hell I am going to condone the video by watching it. It's a special circle of hell for this "mother". Quite frankly, the girl is 16, she should leave and cut her the fuck off. Get that heinous waste of flesh out of her life. She'll be better off and that woman can rot in hell.
I hope the woman gets charged with assault and gets the book thrown at her. I hope that girl gets out of her toxic mother's grasp and gets a life of her own.
There are so many people who would make good parents who are not, and then there are assholes like this monster who get to be parents. That's beyond fucked up.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 28, 2016 12:26:57 GMT
This story is repulsive in so many ways. That woman could have had a rational discussion with her kid about why we don't post pictures flaunting our sexuality on the Internet, and how some things need to be kept private and not shared with the world, etc, followed by an appropriate consequence. Perhaps taking Internet privliges away for x amount of time. But instead, she chooses to beat the crap out of her kid on live internet for the entire world to see. Wtf?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 12:30:34 GMT
I hope someone removes that child from her 'mother' as soon as possible. If she is willing to behave like that when a camera is rolling what is she capable of when it isn't?
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 28, 2016 12:36:05 GMT
There's no way in hell I am going to condone the video by watching it. I don't condone the behavior. I didn't go looking for the video, it was posted as part of a news story. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 12:42:09 GMT
Someone asked why the mother can't be arrested...because in most states in not illegal to spank your child. I'm dead serious, some states even go as far as to say how long and wide the instrument can be and to say as long as the mark does not last more than a set amount of days.
That does not mean DSS won't get involoved but criminal charges in many states are not found.
Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 12:55:20 GMT
Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. This was NOT a 'spanking' she was repeatedly hit in the face. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 13:13:42 GMT
Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. This was NOT a 'spanking' she was repeatedly hit in the face. Morning, I completely understand that. I'm choosing not to watch the video. No need to feed into making the video viral, which seems to be what the mom wanted. All I was asking was how many of you were spanked growing up? Please don't try to twist the question I was asking by only quoting parts of my post. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 13:23:12 GMT
All I was asking was how many of you were spanked growing up? Please don't try to twist the question I was asking by only quoting parts of my post. I wasn't trying to twist anything! Wether people were spanked as children or not has no bearing on the level of violence in that video. It always feels like an attempt to minimise what some children go through when the word spank is brought up. |
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Post by grinningcat on Jul 28, 2016 13:25:31 GMT
Someone asked why the mother can't be arrested...because in most states in not illegal to spank your child. I'm dead serious, some states even go as far as to say how long and wide the instrument can be and to say as long as the mark does not last more than a set amount of days. That does not mean DSS won't get involoved but criminal charges in many states are not found. Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. Spanking, beating, hitting, rapping on the knuckles. It's all assault and makes the parents nothing better than a bully. If an adult can be charged for doing it to another adult, then there is no acceptable reason to assault a child under the guise of "discipline". And yes, I'm judgey about this and will say that if someone has to assault their child to make them behave, they're doing it wrong and they are bad parents who don't deserve to be parents. Since you asked, my parents never assaulted me and never allowed teachers or anyone else to assault me. I was punished if I did something wrong, but certainly not by assault and bullying. |
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Post by raindancer on Jul 28, 2016 13:32:32 GMT
All I was asking was how many of you were spanked growing up? Please don't try to twist the question I was asking by only quoting parts of my post. I wasn't trying to twist anything! Wether people were spanked as children or not has no bearing on the level of violence in that video. It always feels like an attempt to minimise what some children go through when the word spank is brought up. I agree. It's a red herring. Completely irrelevant. Who gives a shit? |
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Post by Woobster on Jul 28, 2016 13:47:51 GMT
I was spanked as a kid. I can count on one hand the number of times and recall specifically what I had done in each incident.
While I can understand that a parent would be very upset with a child for doing what this 16 year old girl did, one pop on the hind end at the age of 5 for being a smartass and being repeatedly hit all over your face and body at the age of 16 are two very different things (IMO). (I did not and won't watch the video, but read the article that described what was done to this girl.)
FWIW, I don't condone spanking, I'm just telling my experience. What this mother did to her child was SO wrong. And from her response, it sounds as if the only fault she sees in the whole incident is sharing the video on social media. I can only imagine how many times similar incidents have happened in that household that no one knows about.
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Post by basketdiva on Jul 28, 2016 13:50:36 GMT
Someone asked why the mother can't be arrested...because in most states in not illegal to spank your child. I'm dead serious, some states even go as far as to say how long and wide the instrument can be and to say as long as the mark does not last more than a set amount of days. That does not mean DSS won't get involoved but criminal charges in many states are not found. Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. Yes I was spanked as a child but only with a hand and a few swats. There is a big difference in spanking and beating for 4 minutes- a beating that includes a stick. |
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Post by anonrefugee on Jul 28, 2016 14:06:38 GMT
Soooo, let's say it was "just" a regular, run of the mill, old school spanking.
It would be wrong for a mother to put that on social media too. Humiliation and mass social embarrassment weren't part of the traditional punishment package, were they? Unless one thought pillory and stocks were a god idea.
(Not directed at you @leowife! I've admired your tough love stance and read it as having Love for your child as the reason. )
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 28, 2016 14:51:32 GMT
Soooo, let's say it was "just" a regular, run of the mill, old school spanking.
It would be wrong for a mother to put that on social media too. Humiliation and mass social embarrassment weren't part of the traditional punishment package, were they? Unless one thought pillory and stocks were a god idea. (Not directed at you @leowife ! I've admired your tough love stance and read it as having Love for your child as the reason. ) Um, no - it was much more violent and degrading. |
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Post by kellybelly77 on Jul 28, 2016 15:00:56 GMT
And what makes this even worse is that I read the comments below the article on Facebook and others were agreeing with the mother! Saying that her daughter learned a lesson and will never do it again. And that she deserved it for disrespecting her mom by having sex in her house. That parents nowadays are too lenient on their kids and it takes a good ole fashioned butt whopping to make kids behave properly. And that if everyone did this maybe kids would have more respect. I was horrified that so many considered this to be appropriate discipline.
I didn't watch the video, I only saw a still that was plucked off the video. It was the girl cowering the corner while her mom was beating her and I started crying. The thought of what that girl went through was heart wrenching.
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Post by pmm on Jul 28, 2016 15:11:32 GMT
Someone asked why the mother can't be arrested...because in most states in not illegal to spank your child. I'm dead serious, some states even go as far as to say how long and wide the instrument can be and to say as long as the mark does not last more than a set amount of days. That does not mean DSS won't get involoved but criminal charges in many states are not found. Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. There is a fine line between spanking and beating. My mom would tell you she only spanked us. I was routinely "spanked" growing up by my mom for things my brother did. She would ask "Who did xxx!" When we both answered "Not me" her solution was to take whatever object was closest and provide punishment to both of us and then send us to our rooms until the guilty party confessed. By todays standards she would have been in jail for what she did to me. She always hit me more and harder because I cried as soon as she grabbed the item of choice. So, she also needed to give me a reason to cry. For the record the last time she hit me I was in the 8th grade. Her item of choice was an extension cord. I had marks from my mid back all the way down my calves. They lasted several weeks. We had to change into gym clothes at school. It was the only time I used one of the three bathroom stalls to change. And changing in there could get you into trouble. I was more afraid of what would happen to me if the gym teacher saw the marks and my mom found out than the gym teacher marking me tardy for being late to line up. The "spankings" stopped after that because she got mad at my brother and sent him to live with our dad. |
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Post by pmm on Jul 28, 2016 15:19:16 GMT
I've not seen the video and I won't go looking for it. But, from what I've read here my heart breaks for that 16 year old. I'm sure this isn't the first time she has been beaten like that. It's just the first time it was filmed and put on the internet.
The 16 year old says she feels safe at home. I don't believe her for one minute and honestly don't think she should be given the choice to stay. How many of us have been or know of someone that is a victim of domestic violence? The vast majority will tell others that they feel safe because they are afraid of what their abuser will do to them if they say otherwise.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 28, 2016 18:20:34 GMT
Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. Wow, really? That makes it okay then.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 21:37:33 GMT
Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. Wow, really? That makes it okay then. Good lord, no one is saying what the lady did isn't wrong. I chose not to watch the video, she wanted it to go viral and everyone who is watching it is making her wish come true. All I asked was the above question. Stop taking every thing out of context. I don't condone beating a child but a smack on the butt or a tap on the hand didn't kill us growing up. Stop trying to twist the question I asked into something it's not. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 28, 2016 22:52:51 GMT
Wow, really? That makes it okay then. Good lord, no one is saying what the lady did isn't wrong. I chose not to watch the video, she wanted it to go viral and everyone who is watching it is making her wish come true. All I asked was the above question. Stop taking every thing out of context. I don't condone beating a child but a smack on the butt or a tap on the hand didn't kill us growing up. Stop trying to twist the question I asked into something it's not. Then why even bring it up on a thread about a woman who was obviously assaulting her daughter? It smacks of justification. Just because you were spanked/smacked doesn't make it right. There is no place for that in any form, in any child's life. A smack on the butt or tap on the hand is assault and the message it sends to that child is wrong no matter how much you minimize it. |
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 28, 2016 22:55:28 GMT
Someone asked why the mother can't be arrested...because in most states in not illegal to spank your child. I'm dead serious, some states even go as far as to say how long and wide the instrument can be and to say as long as the mark does not last more than a set amount of days. That does not mean DSS won't get involoved but criminal charges in many states are not found. Playing devil advocate, how many of you were spanked growing up, not beat...I'm not saying that's alright. I can tell you my hand were rapped by the nuns and I got my butt smacked. Okay Devil's Advocate, did you see the video? That wasn't spanking. It was being hit over and over with a stick and total verbal abuse...for 5 minutes. Then you know what the "mother" did at the end of the video? She was fixing her hair like the camera was her own personal mirror, like she hadn't just spend 5 minutes screaming at and hitting her daughter. There is no defense for that kind of "punishment". OMG. |
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Post by Anita on Jul 28, 2016 23:27:24 GMT
The video started auto playing in the article that I saw yesterday. It was horrible, and I couldn't watch it all. This was not spanking - it was abuse. I understand being disappointed in your child, but I will never understand that level of rage. I can't imagine wanting to humiliate my child like that either. Very disturbing.
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Post by uksue on Jul 29, 2016 0:30:37 GMT
That was so much more than spanking - it was total humiliation for that girl . Teens have killed themselves for far less . As soon as the girl revealed her face at all the mother smacked it again -.I am beyond shocked . What an absolute bully.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 29, 2016 0:49:00 GMT
I'd like to back that piece of shit into a corner and beat the shit out her. There is NO reason to hit your child. NONE
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