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Post by refugeepea on Jul 28, 2016 17:08:38 GMT
Thanks hollymolly you said what I was thinking. I just was recently in a class for people looking to get back into workforce. Just hearing some of the situations why people were let go, why they are unemployed and why they are out of work so long is daunting. I clearly know some people, no matter what the situation, have one excuse after another, but some of these people are legitimately can not find work in our city.
ETA: add in the whole childcare situation like others have said and it can be difficult to find an understanding employer.
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Post by LiLi on Jul 28, 2016 17:20:48 GMT
Some assumptions made in this thread about symptoms from not working, could be actually the reasons these people don't work instead of the other way around.
Not everyone is an extrovert.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 28, 2016 17:25:50 GMT
Ugh, all the freaking time.
For example, my cousins 20 year old kid. He needs a damn job and he needs to keep it for more than a month
My other cousin's 22 year old kid needs to get a job. He can't fish every day for his wbole life. Cousin needs to quit enabling him.
Town know it all...get a 2nd job, you obviously have way too much time on your hands if you need to get in everyone's business and try to run ecerything...which you sucks at running things and nobody likes you
Other than that, if your family can pay the bills and you stay home, I don't care. I will judge (we all know I would) if you are taking aid from the govt and not working, disability not counting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 17:26:58 GMT
Some assumptions made in this thread about symptoms from not working, could be actually the reasons these people don't work instead of the other way around. Not everyone is an extrovert. Introverts survive the working world just fine. Even if someone doesn't work because they are sympomatic for depression and anxiety, getting out of their own head and stop focusing on themselves can end the depression and anxiety. Save
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 28, 2016 17:30:40 GMT
When I was pg w/my first child, dh and I agreed that I would become a SAHM. I gave up a career that I hated, anyway. The plan was that when the kids were in elementary school I would go to school and finish my education in order to have the career I really wanted. Sadly, that plan was quickly derailed when I became ill while the kids were pre-schoolers. Now I'm primarily bed ridden(well, recliner during the day). Dh and I were just talking about how he'd planned to retire in a couple of years and I would have had a blossoming career in my chosen field, by now. It's truly sad.
Though I can't work or volunteer I think it's vital that everyone even sick and disabled people have a reason to wake up each morning. If you can't work then find a purpose at home. I cook dinner most nights, because that's my way of contributing to my family in a physical way. I often save all of my energy for that task. It's not much of a life, but I do the best that I can by keeping my friendships alive and being very present for my kids. Having a sense of humor is the key, as well. Everyone needs purpose even if that is just making dinner or being there for a friend in need. I need to find the key to feeling emotionally healthy despite my physical health.
I don't judge, because you never know a person's situation. To talk to me or to look at me you'd think I was perfectly healthy and wonder why I don't work. Do not judge a book by it's cover.
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valincal
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Post by valincal on Jul 28, 2016 17:33:18 GMT
I haven't read all of the responses but I have to say that I have working friends who look for constant drama. I also have working friends who only talk about their job....boring! So it's the individual personality sometimes, not the fact that they "need to get a job".
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luvnlifelady
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Post by luvnlifelady on Jul 28, 2016 17:34:34 GMT
Yes, my sister needs to hear this. Even volunteering in the local senior homes would be a start. She has lived with me for 5 years and never worked a day in that time. Nor volunteered much. She doesn't leave often because she has no job/car or life. Makes me insane! She's 55 and has no skills. Ugh. She may have some mental illness going on but still, just being out would do her some good. She seemed perfectly able to cohort with her ex husband a couple years ago. Would go to his place on the weekends. (I loved that). She seems very able to do the things she wants to do but can't get out to even volunteer. Ugh.
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Jul 28, 2016 17:34:50 GMT
I'm just thinking maybe we should limit those "get a job" thoughts to people we know really well. i hope that no one here takes anyone's comments personally there were times in my own life when i bet those around me thought - FFS! go get a job any comments i made were about people i know well enough to know...they need a job/hobby! everyone has issues - and some people's issues are that they have too much free time
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Post by Linda on Jul 28, 2016 18:29:17 GMT
Even if someone doesn't work because they are sympomatic for depression and anxiety, getting out of their own head and stop focusing on themselves can end the depression and anxiety. depression and anxiety are REAL illnesses that need to be treated by doctors and medication -yes there are lifestyle changes that can help just as with other diseases but just changing your lifestyle rarely if EVER will treat let alone cure depression or anxiety. let's compare with diabetes - some folks have a very mild (early) form of type 2 that if they make some diet and exercise changes, they can get their blood glucose under control. But most people need to take medication and/or insulin to control type 2 diabetes and ALL people with type 1 diabetes need to take insulin. There is no amount of lifestyle change that will keep a person with type 1 diabetes from DYING without insulin. And no one in their right mind would tell a type 1 diabetic to just eat better and exercise more and you'll be fine. Same with depression and anxiety - some folks have a very mild form of depression or anxiety that will indeed respond to lowering stress or other lifestyle changes. But people with severe anxiety, clinical depression, bipolar...NEED medication to control it - it's a chemical imbalance that can't be fixed by getting out their own head and stopping focusing on themselves. I'm one of the REALLY lucky ones with bipolar. For the most part, I can manage it without medication at the moment. I haven't always been able to - and there have been times when even WITH medication, it wasn't well-controlled. But it's been over 25 years since my diagnosis and probably 30+ since its onset - I've only been medication free for the past 5 or so years and my family members are well-versed in what to watch for (as am I - but it's harder to recognise symptoms in yourself early on...and later on, the disease itself makes it harder) and we're all well-aware that I'll probably relapse again in the future and need medication again. YES I've made lifestyle changes to help with my disease - those have included diet, exercise, lowering stress, and avoiding sleep deprivation. But I have to be careful - last time I went back to work, it triggered a depressive episode so severe that if there had been a bed available in the local mental hospital, I would have been admitted. As it was, I spent 48 hrs under observation in an ER.
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AnotherPea
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 28, 2016 19:17:55 GMT
Absolutely! I was a SAHM for many years. I recognize the value in that position. That being said, I had two semester-long encounters two years ago with SAHMs. They both openly admitted that their children's schooling was their full-time job. They both told me they did not care about the other students in my class and that they expected THEIR children to get everything they needed and wanted out of my class regardless of how it impacted other students or myself. Both them also told me that their children WOULD receive an A in my class or else (writing a letter to the school board for one mother, suing me and the system for the other). One child received an A, the other did not. I have not been notified of any negative consequences as of yet. Both of these women would have been happier if they had something else to occupy their time. I know that their kids and I sure would have been happier! I have a friend that has never worked. She spends her day worrying non-stop. Now, she's had a lot going on in her life, but she does make things worse with the amount of attention she gives them. My grandmother never worked either. Once my grandfather died, leaving her a middle-aged widow, she had nothing to occupy her time but idle gossip and pot-stirring. She could have easily used her time to better the community but instead she wallowed in perceived insults and self-pity.
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Post by Sorrel on Jul 28, 2016 20:30:06 GMT
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jul 28, 2016 21:32:52 GMT
I want to shout this at my cousin at every family function. Or like today when she posted a "how I feel getting up for work" meme. She hasn't had a job in 8 years since she was pregnant. Her and her skeezy old bf (he works) live with my aunt. They both drink beer, smoke pot, and pop Xanex all day. They were drinking vodka at my other niece's bday party in the bathroom last weekend. Clean your ass up. You're 31, get a damn job, and be a role model for your daughter. Ok end rant.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 28, 2016 23:56:35 GMT
Ugh, all the freaking time. For example, my cousins 20 year old kid. He needs a damn job and he needs to keep it for more than a month My other cousin's 22 year old kid needs to get a job. He can't fish every day for his wbole life. Cousin needs to quit enabling him. This reminds me of a different friend's 20 year old grandson. The kid is perfectly healthy, reasonably strong, intelligent enough to follow instructions but is otherwise just plain lazy. Mom and dad told him he needed to either enroll in some kind of schooling (ANY kind) or get a job. He did neither so they kicked him out. Grandma and grandpa felt sorry for him and took him in, and now he's THEIR couch potato. He's been hired 2-3 times by different companies in the last six months or so and for whatever reason he quit all of them within a week or two of starting. His excuse for the last one? That he got hurt on the job twice (in less than a week?) and because no one seemed to care, he quit. Leaves us both shaking our heads. I think there ought to be a curb with that kid's butt on it.
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