stampstace
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Post by stampstace on Aug 3, 2016 18:37:25 GMT
I get what stampstace is saying. I don't equate them to innocuous instant pot or fitness threads because political threads are so polarizing and negative and can stir up emotions just seeing the titles. I think a better comparison (for me) is people posting multiple threads about children or pets dying in horrific ways. So yes I do scroll by but just reading titles is enough to trigger a despondent feeling and make me feel hopeless for a bit. I *know* posters are fighting in there and it hits me in the gut, it makes me feel hopeless. It doesn't help that the titles themselves are very adversarial from the get go. I understand why admins don't want to add a political board and will continue scrolling but I can't say I don't feel the same way as stampstace. Thats it I get this horrific flood of emotions by just reading the titles. Most the time I do not even open the threads but my heart hurts so had for our country right now that it is just emotional beyond belief.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 18:45:56 GMT
I have to agree with another poster upthread. I felt you (OP) were feeling lonely wondering if anyone would miss you. If so, I hope you learn to enjoy the threads that make you laugh (which, by the way, could be those political threads lol), or inform you or challenge you to look for more information. My thread count is rather low as I usually don't login, yet I've been here since formation as well as years and years on 2Peas. It was my lunchtime entertainment at work (now retired) and continues to be entertaining to me. My DH always jokes "this is from the Peas, eh?" And yet I doubt many Peas would recognize me nor do I care! Jk My point? Don't despair! Enjoy all that you like and learn to ignore the rest.
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Aug 3, 2016 18:47:52 GMT
I don't know how people function in the real world if simply reading the title of a thread creates anxiety for them. Maybe this place is just too much for you if simply seeing a thread title causes you to have an anxiety attack.
We are all adults and we are all capable of not opening (or responding to) threads that we are uninterested in, or that we are bothered by. This is Admin's place. If she wants to create rules around the types of threads that people create, she can. Otherwise, act like a grown up and scroll on by if you aren't interested.
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 3, 2016 18:55:50 GMT
I'm afraid you are going to be part of the what happened to the pea thread. Reading that thread will be like this
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Post by disneypal on Aug 3, 2016 18:58:33 GMT
I disagree. If we had a political board, I would never visit it. But once in a while, I will click on a political link here and it is good to be informed (about both candidates).
Plus - it is temporary, pretty much. We will see more political threads between now and November and after the first of the year, they will start slowly dying out back to a normal number of threads.
If you are not interested in political threads (I usually am not but sometimes I am), then just skip them - I really don't see a new for a new board.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 3, 2016 19:07:47 GMT
I don't know how people function in the real world if simply reading the title of a thread creates anxiety for them. Maybe this place is just too much for you if simply seeing a thread title causes you to have an anxiety attack. For some people, it is really difficult but that shouldn't stop them from trying. Some people are exceptionally sensitive - and they have no control over it. They are kind of like walking antennas both receiving and sending all the time with little control over what comes in and sometimes what goes out. For people like this, it's very easy to assimilate the stress one person gives off and mistake it as their own stress thereby causing them to feel continually on edge and defensive with no way to understand why or how this is. These people actually have a name, they are called: HSP (Highly Sensitive Person). HSP's are found in about 15 - 20% of the population. These people are usually operating in a "fight or flight" mode as a normal course of life making everyday stresses for the rest of the population seem overwhelming to them. MY DD is a textbook HSP and we've been working with her for most of her life helping her identify these certain areas about herself so she can maneuver in the world more easily. It's the process of exposure to stressful stimuli and reasoning through "is that me or is that something else", this logic-play helps her deal and process the anxiety that comes from simply being in public or watching the news. She can't avoid it - it is the world and if she is going to be part of it, she knows that she has to sometimes limit her exposure to her specific triggers (crowds, politics, tv, social media). She is learning how to operate in a world that she often interprets as emotionally prickly and stressful. Example of everyday type of situation for an HSP (like my DD): Imagine walking into a room with other people in it. You walk in feeling normal and happy but the people in it are arguing. You inadvertently pick up the emotions of their argument and then mistake them as your own feelings and this confuses you because you were just fine a second ago but you don't make the connection that it's the other people's hostility that you've confused as your own...so now, you're upset and you don't know why and you react accordingly. One of the people looks up at the scowl on your face and says, "what's your problem?" and *BAMO!* It's on, they've attacked you and you're gonna attack back because WTH?! You were minding your own business until they jumped on you. What you didn't see is that play of emotions on your face when you entered the room. The hostility latched onto you before you realized it and you had locked eyes with that person and scowled directly at them causing that person say look back at you and say, "What is your problem?" That's what it's like for my DD.
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Aug 3, 2016 19:10:57 GMT
I don't know how people function in the real world if simply reading the title of a thread creates anxiety for them. Maybe this place is just too much for you if simply seeing a thread title causes you to have an anxiety attack. Some people are exceptionally sensitive - and they have no control over it. They are kind of like walking antennas both receiving and sending all the time with little control over what comes in and sometimes what goes out. For people like this, it's very easy to assimilate the stress one person gives off and mistake it as their own stress thereby causing them to feel continually on edge and defensive with no way to understand why or how this is. These people actually have a name, they are called: HSP (Highly Sensitive Person). HSP's are found in about 15 - 20% of the population. These people are usually operating in a "fight or flight" mode as a normal course of life making everyday stresses for the rest of the population seem overwhelming to them. MY DD is a textbook HSP and we've been working with her for most of her life helping her identify these certain areas about herself so she can maneuver in the world more easily. It's the process of exposure to stressful stimili and reasoning through "is that me or is that something else" help her deal with the anxiety that comes from simply being in public or watching the news. She can't avoid it - it is the world and if she is going to be part of it, she knows that she has to sometimes limit her exposure to her specific triggers (crowds, politics, tv, social media). She is learning how to operate in a world that she often interprets as emotionally prickly and stressful. Example of everyday type of situation for an HSP (like my DD): Imagine walking into a room with other people in it. You walk in feeling normal and happy but the people in it are arguing. You inadvertently pick up the emotions of their argument and then mistake them as your own feelings and confuses you because you were just fine a second ago but you don't make the connection that it's the other people's hostility that you've confused as your own...so now, you're upset and you don't know why and you react accordingly. One of the people looks up at the scowl on your face and says, "what's your problem?" and *BAMO!* It's on. That's what it's like for my DD. So you expect the world to bend to your overly sensitive daughter and you expect the Peas to stop posting to appease someone who spirals into an anxiety attack over the title of a post that bothers them? It's great that you are working with your daughter, but it is still rude and presumptive to tell people how to behave (if their behavior is reasonable) because it might bother one very sensitive snowflake. That's just not realistic. I am not without compassion; I was exactly the type of child you describe. I don't think it's the world's job to bend to my (irrational) anxiety, though, and I don't think it's my place to put limits on reasonable behavior because it might make me a little upset. I'm sure you will think my parents were terrible for forcing me to suck it up and deal with life, but I'm grateful. I don't require every place to be a "safe space" and I know how to deal with my anxiety. I stand by what I said. If someone is so sensitive that merely reading a title creates anxiety for them, then perhaps they need to find a space that caters to their sensitivity.
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flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 3, 2016 19:11:52 GMT
I don't have an objection to a political board. In fact, I'd be in favor of it. I'm certain I remember 2peas doing that in the past.
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MizIndependent
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Quit your bullpoop.
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 3, 2016 19:14:51 GMT
Some people are exceptionally sensitive - and they have no control over it. They are kind of like walking antennas both receiving and sending all the time with little control over what comes in and sometimes what goes out. For people like this, it's very easy to assimilate the stress one person gives off and mistake it as their own stress thereby causing them to feel continually on edge and defensive with no way to understand why or how this is. These people actually have a name, they are called: HSP (Highly Sensitive Person). HSP's are found in about 15 - 20% of the population. These people are usually operating in a "fight or flight" mode as a normal course of life making everyday stresses for the rest of the population seem overwhelming to them. MY DD is a textbook HSP and we've been working with her for most of her life helping her identify these certain areas about herself so she can maneuver in the world more easily. It's the process of exposure to stressful stimili and reasoning through "is that me or is that something else" help her deal with the anxiety that comes from simply being in public or watching the news. She can't avoid it - it is the world and if she is going to be part of it, she knows that she has to sometimes limit her exposure to her specific triggers (crowds, politics, tv, social media). She is learning how to operate in a world that she often interprets as emotionally prickly and stressful. Example of everyday type of situation for an HSP (like my DD): Imagine walking into a room with other people in it. You walk in feeling normal and happy but the people in it are arguing. You inadvertently pick up the emotions of their argument and then mistake them as your own feelings and confuses you because you were just fine a second ago but you don't make the connection that it's the other people's hostility that you've confused as your own...so now, you're upset and you don't know why and you react accordingly. One of the people looks up at the scowl on your face and says, "what's your problem?" and *BAMO!* It's on. That's what it's like for my DD. So you expect the world to bend to your overly sensitive daughter and you expect the Peas to stop posting to appease someone who spirals into an anxiety attack over the title of a post that bothers them? That's not reasonable and it's not realistic. I am not without compassion; I was exactly the type of child you describe. I don't think it's the world's job to bend to my (irrational) anxiety, though, and I don't think it's my place to put limits on reasonable behavior because it might make me a little upset. I'm sure you will think my parents were terrible for forcing me to suck it up and deal with life, but I'm grateful. I don't require every place to be a "safe space" and I know how to deal with my anxiety. I stand by what I said. If someone is so sensitive that merely reading a title creates anxiety for them, then perhaps they need to find a space that caters to their sensitivity. Please read fully before responding. I said, "She can't avoid it - it is the world and if she is going to be part of it, she knows that she has to sometimes limit her exposure to her specific triggers (crowds, politics, tv, social media). She is learning how to operate in a world that she often interprets as emotionally prickly and stressful." The burden is on DD to manage herself, not ask the world to bend to suit what she interprets as her needs.
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Aug 3, 2016 19:17:33 GMT
The burden is on DD to manage herself, not ask the world to bend to suit what she interprets as her needs. Being understanding of another person doesn't cost much. Then it appears we agree. The bottom line is that someone else's anxiety is not my problem if I am behaving in a way that is reasonable and respectful. Likewise, my anxiety is not their problem if their behavior is reasonable and respectful. Whining about political threads making you anxious is silly because you (universal "you", not you specifically) have the choice to not open them at all.
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MizIndependent
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Quit your bullpoop.
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 3, 2016 19:18:50 GMT
The burden is on DD to manage herself, not ask the world to bend to suit what she interprets as her needs. Being understanding of another person doesn't cost much. Then it appears we agree. The bottom line is that someone else's anxiety is not my problem if I am behaving in a way that is reasonable and respectful. Likewise, my anxiety is not their problem if their behavior is reasonable and respectful. Whining about political threads making you anxious is silly because you (universal "you", not you specifically) have the choice to not open them at all. And yet they have as much right to complain as you do. You may find it "silly", that doesn't mean it's that way for everyone, and no, you don't have to care or do anything about it.
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Post by beebee on Aug 3, 2016 19:27:00 GMT
I think we need two ongoing posts that people can add to, day after day. We can title them: WTF did Trump say/do now and Hillary's latest lies in here Cause we know it's the SSDD. Nothing changes. I feel sorry for our non-US peas having to suffer through this 18 month shit show. OH my goodness, this made me laugh!!!
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Aug 3, 2016 19:27:09 GMT
Then it appears we agree. The bottom line is that someone else's anxiety is not my problem if I am behaving in a way that is reasonable and respectful. Likewise, my anxiety is not their problem if their behavior is reasonable and respectful. Whining about political threads making you anxious is silly because you (universal "you", not you specifically) have the choice to not open them at all. And yet they have as much right to complain as you do. You may find it "silly", that doesn't mean it's that way for everyone, and no, you don't have to care or do anything about it. But the thing is, I'm not complaining about anything. I scroll by the posts that don't interest or bother me because I don't believe it's my place to tell another adult what to do. I'm sure you will make the argument that I could just scroll on by the complaints about how much anxiety a thread title engenders in some people, but I'm not trying to dictate the way this board runs or what other adults do. Again, it is not reasonable to try to control behavior that is reasonable and respectful just because it makes you feel a little bit upset.
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Post by PenandInk on Aug 3, 2016 19:53:24 GMT
I think we need two ongoing posts that people can add to, day after day. We can title them: WTF did Trump say/do now and Hillary's latest lies in here Cause we know it's the SSDD. Nothing changes. I feel sorry for our non-US peas having to suffer through this 18 month shit show. This! Two ongoing threads. It would be awesome for those who wish to join in, and would clear up the page for all the other stuff.
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anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 3, 2016 19:57:09 GMT
We don't need a separate board. Just don't click. Simple.
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rodeomom
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Post by rodeomom on Aug 3, 2016 20:08:15 GMT
No, No, No, we go through this every year. It's part of being a pea.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 3, 2016 20:29:29 GMT
I do wonder sometimes what our non-American Peas think about this election madness. Of course they had their own circus this year. But we seem to have a circus every election!
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Mystie
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Post by Mystie on Aug 3, 2016 20:46:25 GMT
I don't know how people function in the real world if simply reading the title of a thread creates anxiety for them. Maybe this place is just too much for you if simply seeing a thread title causes you to have an anxiety attack. For some people, it is really difficult but that shouldn't stop them from trying. Some people are exceptionally sensitive - and they have no control over it. They are kind of like walking antennas both receiving and sending all the time with little control over what comes in and sometimes what goes out. For people like this, it's very easy to assimilate the stress one person gives off and mistake it as their own stress thereby causing them to feel continually on edge and defensive with no way to understand why or how this is. These people actually have a name, they are called: HSP (Highly Sensitive Person). HSP's are found in about 15 - 20% of the population. These people are usually operating in a "fight or flight" mode as a normal course of life making everyday stresses for the rest of the population seem overwhelming to them. MY DD is a textbook HSP and we've been working with her for most of her life helping her identify these certain areas about herself so she can maneuver in the world more easily. It's the process of exposure to stressful stimuli and reasoning through "is that me or is that something else", this logic-play helps her deal and process the anxiety that comes from simply being in public or watching the news. She can't avoid it - it is the world and if she is going to be part of it, she knows that she has to sometimes limit her exposure to her specific triggers (crowds, politics, tv, social media). She is learning how to operate in a world that she often interprets as emotionally prickly and stressful. Example of everyday type of situation for an HSP (like my DD): Imagine walking into a room with other people in it. You walk in feeling normal and happy but the people in it are arguing. You inadvertently pick up the emotions of their argument and then mistake them as your own feelings and this confuses you because you were just fine a second ago but you don't make the connection that it's the other people's hostility that you've confused as your own...so now, you're upset and you don't know why and you react accordingly. One of the people looks up at the scowl on your face and says, "what's your problem?" and *BAMO!* It's on, they've attacked you and you're gonna attack back because WTH?! You were minding your own business until they jumped on you. What you didn't see is that play of emotions on your face when you entered the room. The hostility latched onto you before you realized it and you had locked eyes with that person and scowled directly at them causing that person say look back at you and say, "What is your problem?" That's what it's like for my DD. I have never heard of HSP before, but I think I may be one. It's difficult. Save
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Post by peasapie on Aug 3, 2016 20:52:50 GMT
Normally I would 142.986% agree that a separate board would not be needed. However, right now there are 8 threads on the first page about politics. And IDK if I'm just at my max capacity for politics or extra crabby this morning, but even I, who happily scrolls on by and never participates in political threads thought, "Holy hell that's an overload of politics this morning!" I know it will only get worse. And perhaps I just need more coffee and a better scrolling finger, accompanied by a more positive attitude. But I come here for some lighter reading and escape. I know it's me and my problem though Me too. I guess the theory is that these political posts help populate the board. Which I suppose is true, like junk mail populates my inbox. I can throw them away. I just don't really like to have to see it.
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theshyone
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Post by theshyone on Aug 3, 2016 21:06:05 GMT
Because people deliberating title the thread so you don't know it's political until after you click. Hate opening them. Then use the hover feature...hover over the thread title and it'll show you the beginning of the thread... How does one hover? Im on an iPad if that makes a difference.
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Post by gar on Aug 3, 2016 21:10:47 GMT
Not sure about on an iPad but on my pc you just hover the cursor over the title for a second and the words of the post pop up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 21:23:39 GMT
I do wonder sometimes what our non-American Peas think about this election madness. Of course they had their own circus this year. But we seem to have a circus every election! But your circus is far more entertaining than ours. Ours was over at the blink of an eyelid and everyone is now singing kumbaya
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 3, 2016 21:30:54 GMT
I'll be honest, I am not a fan of a separate board. I like being able to scroll through and pick and choose what I want to read and answer whether it be politics, dinners, or kitchen gadgets.
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Post by elaine on Aug 3, 2016 21:34:04 GMT
I'm doomed if our ongoing Instant Pot Cult is banished to a sub-board. Doomed, I tell you! I'd post less on political threads though. I like our board just as it is. admin has done a wonderful job with it all.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 3, 2016 21:38:09 GMT
I do wonder sometimes what our non-American Peas think about this election madness. Of course they had their own circus this year. But we seem to have a circus every election! But your circus is far more entertaining than ours. Ours was over at the blink of an eyelid and everyone is now singing kumbaya I am sincerely glad that you(and hopefully others) find our election season entertaining. I do too, although sometimes it's maddening. I can only hope that someday we Americans can sing kumbaya. Right now we're more like the Hatfields and the McCoys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 21:51:32 GMT
But your circus is far more entertaining than ours. Ours was over at the blink of an eyelid and everyone is now singing kumbaya I am sincerely glad that you(and hopefully others) find our election season entertaining. I do too, although sometimes it's maddening. I can only hope that someday we Americans can sing kumbaya. Right now we're more like the Hatfields and the McCoys. Oh I do very much have sympathy for you all even among the entertainment that it gives the rest of us.......I was trying to lighten the gloom in between my I just can't even imagine Trump as your president. But I can't honestly dismiss the thought that I would love to be fly on the wall if he was elected and ended up facing Angela Merkel and Theresa May together across a table...two very strong women. Oh my goodness!
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Post by mellyw on Aug 3, 2016 22:01:16 GMT
I am sincerely glad that you(and hopefully others) find our election season entertaining. I do too, although sometimes it's maddening. I can only hope that someday we Americans can sing kumbaya. Right now we're more like the Hatfields and the McCoys. Oh I do very much have sympathy for you all even among the entertainment that it gives the rest of us.......I was trying to lighten the gloom in between my I just can't even imagine Trump as your president. But I can't honestly dismiss the thought that I would love to be fly on the wall if he was elected and ended up facing Angela Merkel and Theresa May together across a table...two very strong women. Oh my goodness! I would like to petition to have this happen now. Cause the thought of that idiot attempting to deal with Merkel & May makes me giddy. Unfortunately that would mean he was elected, & I can't handle that. Though Merkel & May sounds like a crime fighting duo to me.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on Aug 3, 2016 22:19:32 GMT
I'm doomed if our ongoing Instant Pot Cult is banished to a sub-board. Doomed, I tell you! I'd post less on political threads though. My favorite cult ever! And I watch smugly from the sidelines with my Vitamix. What appliance will strike next... stampstace stay tuned for next week. Revenge of the Monotasker
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Aug 3, 2016 22:23:49 GMT
I do wonder sometimes what our non-American Peas think about this election madness. Of course they had their own circus this year. But we seem to have a circus every election! But your circus is far more entertaining than ours. Ours was over at the blink of an eyelid and everyone is now singing kumbaya This American is uber jealous of an country whose election cycle is 60 days or less. Heck, I'd take 9 months or less. Or even a year or less.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 3, 2016 22:42:04 GMT
I am sincerely glad that you(and hopefully others) find our election season entertaining. I do too, although sometimes it's maddening. I can only hope that someday we Americans can sing kumbaya. Right now we're more like the Hatfields and the McCoys. Oh I do very much have sympathy for you all even among the entertainment that it gives the rest of us.......I was trying to lighten the gloom in between my I just can't even imagine Trump as your president. But I can't honestly dismiss the thought that I would love to be fly on the wall if he was elected and ended up facing Angela Merkel and Theresa May together across a table...two very strong women. Oh my goodness! I think that I would pay to see that!!
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