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Post by twoboyzmom on Aug 7, 2016 14:31:28 GMT
About 3 months ago I did my hair a light-medium brown base (using color from sally beauty) Then a friend did some blond highlights (which more of just blended but that's another story)
Anyway...I do have a lot of light color, but my underneath and roots are now dark. I'm wanting to do the "reverse " now, and color my whole head a dark blonde/real light brown, and will then get dark high lights...question is this...
I know I need an ash base color so I don't pull he brassy/orange tones...
Since I have a mix of light and dark, do I get a shade lighter than what I want, so it will come out close to what I'm hoping for?
Thank you!
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Post by MalleyCat on Aug 7, 2016 18:55:45 GMT
I am by no means an expert but I have done my own highlights/lowlights for years. You should probably get a Demi permanent color that is a shade lighter than you want final color to be. The color usually ends up being darker, depending on how porous your hair is after it was highlighted. You mix the Demi color with 10% cream developer and follow the directions on the Demi box for depositing color. 1:1 ratio of Demi color to 10% developer. Since you have red undertones, I would get a Demi color with the name "ash" in it. After you put this on you hair, check the color every few minutes. You may not want to leave it on for the suggested time, depending on the condition of your hair. My hair is pretty porus from highlighting and I usually only leave color on for 10min, otherwise it turns out too dark. The good thing about Demi permanent color, is it will only deposit color and it won't lighten your darker natural hair. You can also use Demi permanent color to add back some low lights. The girls at Sally Beauty are pretty helpful.
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Post by MalleyCat on Aug 7, 2016 19:04:29 GMT
I wanted to add something after re-reading your post. You will only need to use an "ash" color if your current hair color has red undertones in it. Since you are only depositing color and not lightening your hair, you won't have to worry about pulling new red undertones. If your highlights are really light (white)and you add an ash color, your hair could have a green tint in it for about a week, until the green tint washes out/fades.
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Post by twoboyzmom on Aug 7, 2016 20:59:46 GMT
Thanks. I wound up getting the ion color at sally (30 developer) and went with a medium ash blonde. I do want lighter, so will wait a bit and do again with a light, but it blended my hair well, got rid of the dark roots.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
I just wanted to pop in and say how BRAVE you ladies are that do your own color!!!!! I have a lot of brassy tones to my dark blonde natural color. I hate it. I'd rather have it like the color of sand (I guess ash), but apparently that's hard to achieve with my tones. Only 1 person got it right on the first time, and then when I went back to her, I had a COMPLETELY different color!!!!!!! (If anyone watches "The Young & The Restless"/"Real Housewives of Beverly Hills", Eileen Davidson has my dream color, but it's hard for me to achieve! Ugh..........)
As a sidenote: The 1 time I tried coloring it on my own, it took 2 boxes because I have very thick hair, and it turned out like clown-red. I mean, you could see it with the light turned off!!!!!!!!! I'll NEVER again try doing it myself! I trust the professionals.
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Post by twoboyzmom on Aug 7, 2016 21:38:47 GMT
Which is why I quit using box color, always brassy on me. I either get color at Sally's or get it done.
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Post by MalleyCat on Aug 8, 2016 19:41:29 GMT
Thanks. I wound up getting the ion color at sally (30 developer) and went with a medium ash blonde. I do want lighter, so will wait a bit and do again with a light, but it blended my hair well, got rid of the dark roots. I didn't think you were supposed to use anything but a 10 developer with the Ion Demi-Permanent color. Who suggested that you use the 30 developer? When you use a 30 developer, it would most likely lift color rather than just depositing color. How did it come out? Whenever I want to highlight my hair, I use a powder bleach with 30 developer. You need to make sure you leave it on long enough until the hair is a pale yellow color. If you don't leave it on long enough, it will be a brassy orange color(which can only be corrected by reapplying bleach to it until it is at least a pale yellow color). Not even a toner will tone down a brassy orange color) |
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Post by twoboyzmom on Aug 8, 2016 19:42:52 GMT
The ion sells the 30. And it was permanent color came out fine. Hid the dark roots and blended the rest.
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Post by MalleyCat on Aug 8, 2016 19:54:08 GMT
I just wanted to pop in and say how BRAVE you ladies are that do your own color!!!!! I have a lot of brassy tones to my dark blonde natural color. I hate it. I'd rather have it like the color of sand (I guess ash), but apparently that's hard to achieve with my tones. Only 1 person got it right on the first time, and then when I went back to her, I had a COMPLETELY different color!!!!!!! (If anyone watches "The Young & The Restless"/"Real Housewives of Beverly Hills", Eileen Davidson has my dream color, but it's hard for me to achieve! Ugh..........) As a sidenote: The 1 time I tried coloring it on my own, it took 2 boxes because I have very thick hair, and it turned out like clown-red. I mean, you could see it with the light turned off!!!!!!!!! I'll NEVER again try doing it myself! I trust the professionals. I wouldn't suggest to anyone that they try to highlight their own hair. It can be very tricky to get right. I have made many screw ups over the years. But, when I mess up, I know how to correct it. I would prefer to have my hair done by a professional. I did go to a professional for several years. I stopped going because it was $120 plus tip to get it highlighted. The color didn't look any better than when I did it myself. Even when I had my hair professionally highlighted, she would add a toner at the end. The toner generally fades within a few weeks. I use the Ion Demi Permanent color for a toner by using a 2:1 ratio of 10% Cream developer to Ion Demi Permanent color(generally the lighted blond color with the name "ash" in it) . You can also buy the Purple Shimmer Lights shampoo to help with any brassy tones. Also, If you have hard water, it tends to make hair more brassy. |
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Post by MalleyCat on Aug 8, 2016 19:57:04 GMT
The ion sells the 30. And it was permanent color came out fine. Hid the dark roots and blended the rest. Glad it worked for you. I didn't realize you used Ion Permanent Color. I though you had used the Ion Demi Permanent color. I've never tried the permanent color. Maybe I should! : ) |
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Post by twoboyzmom on Aug 8, 2016 19:57:24 GMT
Yup, just permanent
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Post by not2peased on Aug 8, 2016 21:15:04 GMT
I just wanted to pop in and say how BRAVE you ladies are that do your own color!!!!! I have a lot of brassy tones to my dark blonde natural color. I hate it. I'd rather have it like the color of sand (I guess ash), but apparently that's hard to achieve with my tones. Only 1 person got it right on the first time, and then when I went back to her, I had a COMPLETELY different color!!!!!!! (If anyone watches "The Young & The Restless"/"Real Housewives of Beverly Hills", Eileen Davidson has my dream color, but it's hard for me to achieve! Ugh..........) As a sidenote: The 1 time I tried coloring it on my own, it took 2 boxes because I have very thick hair, and it turned out like clown-red. I mean, you could see it with the light turned off!!!!!!!!! I'll NEVER again try doing it myself! I trust the professionals. I wouldn't suggest to anyone that they try to highlight their own hair. It can be very tricky to get right. I have made many screw ups over the years. But, when I mess up, I know how to correct it. I would prefer to have my hair done by a professional. I did go to a professional for several years. I stopped going because it was $120 plus tip to get it highlighted. The color didn't look any better than when I did it myself. Even when I had my hair professionally highlighted, she would add a toner at the end. The toner generally fades within a few weeks. I use the Ion Demi Permanent color for a toner by using a 2:1 ratio of 10% Cream developer to Ion Demi Permanent color(generally the lighted blond color with the name "ash" in it) . You can also buy the Purple Shimmer Lights shampoo to help with any brassy tones. Also, If you have hard water, it tends to make hair more brassy. highlighting your hair using a cap is pretty much dummy proof. it's easier than doing an all over color. I have to color my own hair since I am allergic to all professional hair colors (i've tried, believe me) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 23:33:37 GMT
I just wanted to pop in and say how BRAVE you ladies are that do your own color!!!!! I have a lot of brassy tones to my dark blonde natural color. I hate it. I'd rather have it like the color of sand (I guess ash), but apparently that's hard to achieve with my tones. Only 1 person got it right on the first time, and then when I went back to her, I had a COMPLETELY different color!!!!!!! (If anyone watches "The Young & The Restless"/"Real Housewives of Beverly Hills", Eileen Davidson has my dream color, but it's hard for me to achieve! Ugh..........) As a sidenote: The 1 time I tried coloring it on my own, it took 2 boxes because I have very thick hair, and it turned out like clown-red. I mean, you could see it with the light turned off!!!!!!!!! I'll NEVER again try doing it myself! I trust the professionals. I wouldn't suggest to anyone that they try to highlight their own hair. It can be very tricky to get right. I have made many screw ups over the years. But, when I mess up, I know how to correct it. I would prefer to have my hair done by a professional. I did go to a professional for several years. I stopped going because it was $120 plus tip to get it highlighted. The color didn't look any better than when I did it myself. Even when I had my hair professionally highlighted, she would add a toner at the end. The toner generally fades within a few weeks. I use the Ion Demi Permanent color for a toner by using a 2:1 ratio of 10% Cream developer to Ion Demi Permanent color(generally the lighted blond color with the name "ash" in it) . You can also buy the Purple Shimmer Lights shampoo to help with any brassy tones. Also, If you have hard water, it tends to make hair more brassy. I use the Paul Mitchell color shampoo and it does help. I do have hard water, unfortunately. When I had my hair done the right way, she had 4 bowls of color and then a toner...... I could never do it to myself, especially because I have thick hair. I'd let it go and then it looks like a headful of darker roots, but it's got a hippie-look to it. Luckily I don't have gray hair yet......... When I'm able, I get it done every 2 months. I only need it cut once/year.... And down here in FL, it's 1/3 of what it cost me in NY. |
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