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Post by ihaveonly1l on Sept 16, 2016 11:12:55 GMT
Dismissal may be 3:30, but drive by an elementary school and that pickup lane starts lining up 45 minutes ahead of time. Many kindergarten kids have parents that walk in to get them (especially this close to the beginning of the year) and my guess is they put them in one spot around 3:10 knowing there will be a few still looking for their lunchbox (or whatever) for the next 10 minutes. If you had kindergartens start to get ready 5 minutes before the end of the day, they would miss the bus or their parents would be clogging up the pickup line waiting.
While it still may be "school" time, I can tell you from experience, right now 15 minutes before the bell in a kindergarten class, they are attempting to make sure they have all of them and get them delivered to where they go safely. If this was March and they still were stopping 15-30 minutes before the end of the day, that's one thing, but it's early. I see lots of kindergarten classes everyday, and they are still learning how to do school.
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Post by SabrinaP on Sept 16, 2016 11:20:30 GMT
Not to be nitpicky, but I'm confused. The post says they combine classes for dismissal at 3:15 and dismiss at 3:30, but then it says that dismissal takes an hour, which indicates to me that there are still children in the room at 4:15. Which leaves me with the following questions: 1. Is dismissal really taking that long due to the school's management of it, or are parents arriving late? 2. If the OP's sister arrived on time at or before 3:30, why is her daughter still watching an hour of TV? Is she sitting in the carpool line for 45 minutes? If so, that is definitely a school issue, and I'd be focusing my pea-livid there, and not one what the poor teacher is doing to try to survive that hour. 3. If the OP's niece is only watching 15 minutes of TV, what is the big deal? I understand combining classes and prepping for dismissal 15 minutes before the bell. In a large elementary school, that is simply necessary to make sure dismissal can start on time. And to move kids quickly when their name is called, you need them to have nothing out that needs to be put away, so that's why no hands-on activities during that time. I only wish we had a TV or something in our holding areas ... my dismissal duty is to watch over the kids waiting for day care busses to pick them up. Kids at the end of the day are exhausted and, deprived of other activities, they are LOUD. While I would not show SpongeBob in my class, mostly because I hate it, if I had a parent who was that upset about something so minor I would invite her to come in and try to entertain 30 exhausted and frazzled five year olds AND keep them quiet enough that you can still hear their names called on the walkie. We're teachers, not miracle workers. She's not upset about the time watching TV, she's upset about the content. It was me that focused on the one hour of dismissal. Yes technically only 45 minutes, but one hour total where they combine classes. I don't know why they combine 15 before actaually starting dismissal. Our kindergarten teachers usually get their kids in their spots for dismissal 5 minutes early, but not 15.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Sept 16, 2016 11:21:30 GMT
Not even a blip on my radar.
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Post by secondlife on Sept 16, 2016 11:35:37 GMT
Dismissal shouldn't take an hour. Our school is doing work until 3:50 for a 4:05 bell. 15 minutes is plenty for packing up if you manage your day halfway well. We can dismiss 1,200 students K-6 in less than fifteen minutes following the bell, including kiss and ride. Some moms still sit in the car for an hour to be in the first ten spots in the line, but that doesn't affect what goes on inside.
We don't watch SpongeBob in our house, because to me it is rude and offensive. Everybody should make their own decision on that, and when your child is not at home you do lose some say in what they watch. I know they show videos at our school as a time filler and that is actually okay with me, and I would be less offended by spongebob than I would be with an hour a day (5 hours a week, 180 hours a school year) wasted on an inefficient pickup process.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Sept 16, 2016 12:01:48 GMT
Nowt wrong with SpongeBob.
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Post by CeeScraps on Sept 16, 2016 12:15:18 GMT
It's a Charter School. Can't they set what they expect for pick up or charge the parents more for picking up their child after 3:30?
On a guess because the kids were getting picked up some watched 5 minutes others would watch 60. Yes and the ones watching the 60 minutes are the ones whose parents aren't picking them up right away.
Solution.......please pick up your child by 3:30 or you will be charged for day care.
**My dd's preschool had similar hours. The children needed to be picked up by 3:30 or the parents paid for after school care. We had to pay. Why? I work. I couldn't get there to pick up our dd by 3:30. This school's after hours day care was from 3:30 - 6:00. If you were late and after 6:00 you were charged.
All parents have to be trained. Some of that training involves money if they don't understand the rules.
Oh, and Spongebob....my dh and dd used to watch it all of the time together. I can't imagine entertaining Kindergarten children for an hour when the kids are leaving and the teacher is attempting to ensure the child leaving has all of their belongings! So...Spongebob would be a good choice.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 16, 2016 12:34:16 GMT
Anyone else have to go to YouTube to find out what Sponge Bob is all about? lol. I mean, yes I know who Sponge Bob is, but I've never watched it. My kids are just old enough that they missed him. As for the end of the day in kindergarten. <------ kindergarten teachers at the beginning of the year as they try to get everyone organized and ready to leave. My school has four kindergartens, each with a teacher and an assistant. We have kids going to after-school care, kids going home on one of six buses, kids being picked up to walk home, kids being picked up in cars, kids going home with a friend...oy. Two assistants are in charge of the kindergarten picked-up-by-parent line. So those two teachers combine the bus/after-school care kids in one room, and one of those teachers will help with bus pickup if needed. The other two classes also combine and those two assistants and one of the two teachers do bus kids -- leading the line out as the buses are called, picking up those bus kids from each room along the way. It's complicated, especially at the beginning of the year when kids don't know their bus number, when some are crying because they're afraid of the bus, some are insisting they're walking home but no email has come from the parent, etc. You'd better believe that the teacher who is in charge of two classes' worth of kids has put a video on! lol. Usually they put some sort of animated book on (like my favorite, Pete the Cat), or Sesame Street, or Arthur, or maybe a nature film... something like that. Whatever keeps the kids quiet. The videos are like a magic wand... a bunch of wild kids on the carpet, turn on video, silence. As for Sponge Bob, I haven't watched enough yet to have any opinion on that for kindergartners.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 16, 2016 12:38:31 GMT
We were a no screen family at that age. I don't have an opinion on Sponge Bob as I've never seen it, but daily tv wouldn't have worked for our family.
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Post by scrappert on Sept 16, 2016 12:44:59 GMT
I wouldn't have liked it (because when my son was that age, we did not want him to watch it - and I don't care for Sponge Bob), but I would not have been pea livid.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Sept 16, 2016 12:45:12 GMT
I'm with those who have more of an issue with the poor time management the school is engaging in instead of the choice of Spongebob.
And bless that mama's heart for getting "pea livid" over this. Her daughter's school career is going to be a long and arduous experience for her.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 16, 2016 12:45:43 GMT
By "dismissal" it sounds like they are waiting for parents to come pick the kids up during that time? Is this teacher basically after school care during that time? If so, I think the teacher has more of a right to be irritated than the parents. Maybe she is trying to get things done and doesn't have time to do an extra hour of teaching while waiting for parents to arrive. My guess would be that the long dismissal is to make it easier for parents who need to come pick up the kids. Does the charter school have bussing or other after school options for kids?
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Post by MsKnit on Sept 16, 2016 12:49:38 GMT
1. I love SpongeBob!
And, I was one of those people who forbid SpongeBob. My sister got some sick thrill from letting my son watch it, knowing I didn't want him watching it ever. Then, I found my kid absorbed in SpongeBob at his pap's home. *sigh* Turned out it was rather funny. I was angry with my sister. (She never watched him again, because I felt I couldn't trust her.) Dad...I can never be mad at. He didn't know.
So, I see both sides of the SpongeBob issue.
2. Herding Kindergartners is like herding cats. Everyone of you would be popping a video in to keep them entertained when the chaos that is dismissal is looming and in process.
3. The 1 hour time period...Are there any bussing issues that create an extended stay at the end of the day?
I know I picked my son up simply because he was on the late bus, which meant he was left at school waiting for the bus to make the early drop off rounds. We live a mile from the school.
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Post by gar on Sept 16, 2016 13:00:10 GMT
And bless that mama's heart for getting "pea livid" over this. Her daughter's school career is going to be a long and arduous experience for her. Indeed
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Post by tduby1 on Sept 16, 2016 13:02:59 GMT
Why does it take an hour for dismissal, and why isn't there learning going on in that time? I think because it is after scheduled school hours and the kids are waiting for the parentbto pick them up. If the parent is so upset she should probably arrive at the school early enough she is one of the first parents in the pick up line and not one of the last.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 16, 2016 13:05:35 GMT
Why does it take an hour for dismissal, and why isn't there learning going on in that time? I think because it is after scheduled school hours and the kids are waiting for the parentbto pick them up. If the parent is so upset she should probably arrive at the school early enough she is one of the first parents in the pick up line and not one of the last. I guess I don't understand the hour for dismissal. At our elementary school, the kindergarteners are picked up by their 5th grade bus buddies 5 minutes before dismissal and walked to their busses. Everyone else is dismissed at dismissal time. They go to their busses, walk home, or go to the gym to be picked up. It's literally a 10 or 15 minute process for the pick up kids. The bus kids better get right to their busses or they will be left behind. I don't understand what the hour is for
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 16, 2016 13:07:16 GMT
I'm with those who have more of an issue with the poor time management the school is engaging in instead of the choice of Spongebob. And bless that mama's heart for getting "pea livid" over this. Her daughter's school career is going to be a long and arduous experience for her. Lol. Going by your name I'd say you were probably a Spongebob fan. SaveSave
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Post by tduby1 on Sept 16, 2016 13:17:40 GMT
I think because it is after scheduled school hours and the kids are waiting for the parentbto pick them up. If the parent is so upset she should probably arrive at the school early enough she is one of the first parents in the pick up line and not one of the last. I guess I don't understand the hour for dismissal. At our elementary school, the kindergarteners are picked up by their 5th grade bus buddies 5 minutes before dismissal and walked to their busses. Everyone else is dismissed at dismissal time. They go to their busses, walk home, or go to the gym to be picked up. It's literally a 10 or 15 minute process for the pick up kids. The bus kids better get right to their busses or they will be left behind. I don't understand what the hour is fora It doesn't sound as if there are buses. Parent pick up. Dismissal is 3:30 so parents probably start lining up at 2:45-3:00. Teachers stand outside, communicate back in "Jonnys mom is here, send him out." Two or three kids at a time. The he frony of line will be those parents who plan and que up early. The tail end will be the parents rushing to pick up and behind schedule. I maintain, if mom is so worried, she needs to que up earlier rather than later.
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Post by PaperAngel on Sept 16, 2016 13:36:35 GMT
While not thrilled my child is watching videos daily or that carpool is so slow, I would not be mad at all.
Everyone recognizes families' right to choose whether to permit tv & select shows in their homes. It's also important to understand & respect that schools have their own rules & more children than just yours. By sending an email, expecting an explanation, & demanding other videos are shown, your sister has undoubtedly been labeled a difficult/diva parent. I suggest your sister follow-up by donating acceptable videos, offering her assistance to help expedite dismissal, volunteering to facilitate educational content during the lengthy wait period, & dialing back the "pea livid" in the future. Otherwise, it'll be a long six years at this school for your niece (& her teachers)!
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Sept 16, 2016 13:54:49 GMT
Lol. Going by your name I'd say you were probably a Spongebob fan. That show was in its heyday in my boys' lives when it came time to choose my username lo these many years ago.
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Post by LeaP on Sept 16, 2016 14:06:16 GMT
One hour for dismissal would make me nuts, but Spongebob would not. The episode about "sentence enhancers" made a big splash in my house..."If you are going to curse like a sailor, you're going to work like a sailor".
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Post by freebird on Sept 16, 2016 14:14:57 GMT
I'm with those who have more of an issue with the poor time management the school is engaging in instead of the choice of Spongebob. And bless that mama's heart for getting "pea livid" over this. Her daughter's school career is going to be a long and arduous experience for her. Considering your nickname, I do not trust your answer. LOL I hate spongebob, it's forbidden in my house. My kids did watch it though but I could only take a couple episodes before I made them turn it or leave the room. He just annoys me. I'd be more upset by the 1 hour it takes to get kids out the door. Clearly they're doing something very wrong. Most other schools seem to manage it in 15 min, what's the issue here?
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Post by myshelly on Sept 16, 2016 14:21:57 GMT
I would be upset that they are spending an hour of school time watching a TV show. Can they not use that time to read to the kids, play games, or color? It's not school time. It's after-school time. The OP said multiple times in this thread school is dismissed at 3:30 and SpongeBob starts at 3:15. So it IS school time.
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Post by utmr on Sept 16, 2016 14:30:13 GMT
I don't think I can answer this question without understanding why the teacher has the kids for one hour of non-instructional time for dismissal. If my child was watching one hour of TV during school hours everyday I'd be pea livid no matter what it was, but especially if it was something I didn't allow in my home. But I think the root issue is the kids watching tv for an hour. That shouldn't be happening. Why is it? I agree. That's the issue I focused on too, but I never got a great answer. Apparently 2 classrooms combine rooms at 3:15 and then dismissal starts at 3:30. One of the teachers goes outside to call kids for their ride and the other teacher stays inside and all kids have to be picked up by 4:15. Not sure why they dismiss for an hour though! We start dismissal at 3:00 and are done by 3:20. During dismissal time - this sounds like after care, not school day time. For me totally not an issue. If you can keep 30 tired crabby kindergarteners corralled during after care without resorting to elephant tranquilizers or duct tape then it sounds good to me. The mom should save her outrage. School's a marathon, not a sprint.
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Post by debmast on Sept 16, 2016 14:41:05 GMT
My thoughts:
We love SpongeBob.
That is a long-ass dismissal period. How many students at this school and why is the process so long? I'd be more concerned about that than SB.
The kids are tired and cranky and the teacher is probably just trying to keep them interested in something as she deals with them for 45-60 minutes during dismissal.
If parents are THAT concerned, talk to the school. I'm sure they would welcome some of you to step in and help out during dismissal, which is usually a crazy hectic time. You could help entertain these 5 year olds during that hour and alleviate the watching of TV.
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Post by BoilerUp! on Sept 16, 2016 14:42:55 GMT
level zero for me.
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Post by giatocj on Sept 16, 2016 14:51:15 GMT
Not mad at all.
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Post by angieh1996 on Sept 16, 2016 14:53:53 GMT
While I personally can't stand sponge bob, I wouldn't be livid that my kid saw it at school.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 16, 2016 15:44:09 GMT
only reading the original post, what's wrong with SpongeBob??? I don't understand why someone would be pea livid about that... off to read the entire thread now, and find out. But I could find a myriad of things to get mad about before SpongeBob.
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Post by paget on Sept 16, 2016 15:53:32 GMT
Why does it take an hour for dismissal, and why isn't there learning going on in that time? I'd wonder this but not care at all About spongebob. It would t be on my radar- my kids watched it at that age. I find it harmless.
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Post by littlemama on Sept 16, 2016 16:14:26 GMT
Why does it take an hour for dismissal, and why isn't there learning going on in that time? I'd wonder this but not care at all About spongebob. It would t be on my radar- my kids watched it at that age. I find it harmless. I would care if school ended at 330 and my child wasn't being released for an hour. That is crazy.
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