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Post by elaine on Sept 21, 2016 3:26:03 GMT
will most likely vote for Clinton. Sources close to George HW Bush told ABC news that he will be voting for Hillary Clinton. Google has multiple sources reporting the same thing.
I haven't seen crossing party lines by previous presidents when it comes to voting for current president in my lifetime.
I will be fascinated by what negatives Trump will come up with to sling at George. Although, maybe he is afraid of Barbara, which he should be.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 21, 2016 3:39:06 GMT
I saw that this afternoon. Has he confirmed it? If not, isn't it just someone stirring the pot.
After all trump has said about his boys, I don't blame him. Plus HW was not a bad guy IMO, I feel he wanted to do well for this country
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 21, 2016 3:52:20 GMT
It's all over the news tonight, but I thought this "story" broke quite some weeks ago.
Look, Bush may be a former President, but he's also Jeb Bush's father and Jeb wasn't treated well by Trump. Take these stories and what they mean with a grain or two of salt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 3:53:12 GMT
I will be fascinated by what negatives Trump will come up with to sling at George. I bet they'll be doozies.  |
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Post by elaine on Sept 21, 2016 3:55:58 GMT
Even though I'm a dem, freecharlie , I've always respected HW and Barbara because I thought and felt that they did what they thought was right and didn't pander to the American public for approval. Given all the channels/sources that are reporting it, I think/hope it isn't just shit-stirring, but in this election anything certainly is possible. |
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Sept 21, 2016 4:18:22 GMT
I'm pretty sure the message will include something about his mental health, dementia, oh, maybe Parkinson's...
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Post by auntkelly on Sept 21, 2016 4:20:03 GMT
I wouldn't be at all surprised if President H. W. Bush plans to vote for Hillary after Trump dubbed his son "low energy Jeb" in the debates, but my understanding is that President H. W. Bush has not publicly stated who he will vote for and has no plans of announcing who he will vote for.
Apparently Kathleen Hartington Kennedy Townsend tweeted that President Bush told her in a private meeting he would vote for Clinton. However, a Bush spokesman said President Bush will vote as a private citizen and his ballot choices will be kept private..
I found this information on Snopes and various news sources.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 21, 2016 8:37:30 GMT
It's all over the news tonight, but I thought this "story" broke quite some weeks ago. Look, Bush may be a former President, but he's also Jeb Bush's father and Jeb wasn't treated well by Trump. Take these stories and what they mean with a grain or two of salt. All living past presidents are in support of Hillary and have denounced Trump. Take those endorsements and what they mean... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 10:59:48 GMT
What bugs me about this is that someone decided to share what was shared in a private conversation. Former president or not, he's still a citizen whose vote is private just like the rest of us. The "source" should be ashamed and let go.
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Post by elaine on Sept 21, 2016 11:07:03 GMT
What bugs me about this is that someone decided to share what was shared in a private conversation. Former president or not, he's still a citizen whose vote is private just like the rest of us. The "source" should be ashamed and let go. Unless this was actually a planned leak. It may be that Bush wanted the information to get out there without being the one to say it. This way he doesn't get dragged back into being politically active. If he shared it himself, it would be an act of campaigning for Hillary, and he would be fair game for a whole slew of reporters to ask questions. |
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Post by elaine on Sept 21, 2016 11:08:32 GMT
It's all over the news tonight, but I thought this "story" broke quite some weeks ago. Look, Bush may be a former President, but he's also Jeb Bush's father and Jeb wasn't treated well by Trump. Take these stories and what they mean with a grain or two of salt. All living past presidents are in support of Hillary and have denounced Trump. Take those endorsements and what they mean... Unfortunately, W hasn't announced, leaked or otherwise, that he supports Hillary. |
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Post by Restless Spirit on Sept 21, 2016 13:01:03 GMT
What bugs me about this is that someone decided to share what was shared in a private conversation. Former president or not, he's still a citizen whose vote is private just like the rest of us. The "source" should be ashamed and let go. I agree. I don't think it was Kathleen Kennedy's place to disclose that to the media. For some reason it really bothers me. Maybe because it seems disrespectful. He's a former president and elderly. If he asked her to, then fine. (And I've found no mention that he did ask, so who knows for sure). Otherwise - Bad form on Kathleen Kennedy's part. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 13:32:55 GMT
Ah, yes. One of my favorite West Wing episodes is the one with the hot mic. Bartlet, you handsome genius.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Sept 21, 2016 13:39:24 GMT
I kind of understand where he might vote for her due to personal relationships. Everything I have heard over the past few years is that the Bushes and the Clintons have gotten very close in their roles as former Presidents/first ladies. I get the impression that they have formed friendships, rather than just working relationships. I think it would be hard not to vote for a close friend, even if you weren't politically aligned.
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Post by tduby1 on Sept 21, 2016 13:46:33 GMT
I kind of understand where he might vote for her due to personal relationships. Everything I have heard over the past few years is that the Bushes and the Clintons have gotten very close in their roles as former Presidents/first ladies. I get the impression that they have formed friendships, rather than just working relationships. I think it would be hard not to vote for a close friend, even if you weren't politically aligned. I've heard this as well. I've read interviews with both Mr. Clinton and Mr Bush SR. Where they have said Mr. Bush has taken on a paternal role for Mr. Clinton and he even attends some family functions as "the black sheep of the family". |
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Post by lovetodigi on Sept 21, 2016 13:53:39 GMT
I believe it to be true. There are so many Republicans jumping ship and voting against Trump that I hope it opens some eyes of people that vote party lines no matter what. As an Independent who decides who I will vote for based on who I think will do the best job for our country, I could have possibly voted for a Republican, but not this time. Trump is to dangerous and it seems that the people that understand the job of President best know that he is not qualified for the job and do not support him even if it means going against the very party that they served at the highest levels. Sometimes the country has to be put before the party.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 21, 2016 16:16:48 GMT
It's not surprising. Trump has been a dick to the Bush family.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 16:27:23 GMT
If it weren't true, I think HW Bush would have issued a statement saying so.
If he told Kennedy this in private, it should have stayed private. If he meant for her to leak it, then shame on him for not just taking a stand. That sure is a namby-pamby way of endorsing someone. Have the courage to stand up for what you think is right.
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 21, 2016 16:30:10 GMT
If he told Kennedy this in private, it should have stayed private. If he meant for her to leak it, then shame on him for not just taking a stand. That sure is a namby-pamby way of endorsing someone. Have the courage to stand up for what you think is right.  |
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Post by auntkelly on Sept 21, 2016 17:33:18 GMT
If it weren't true, I think HW Bush would have issued a statement saying so. If he told Kennedy this in private, it should have stayed private. If he meant for her to leak it, then shame on him for not just taking a stand. That sure is a namby-pamby way of endorsing someone. Have the courage to stand up for what you think is right. When I first heard this story on NPR yesterday, they said that Kennedy had already deleted her tweet, which makes me think that she shared something publicly which was told to her in private. My guess is it was an innocent mistake on Kennedy's part. You would think, however, that someone who came from such a high profile family as the Kennedys would be more careful about tweeting something on social media unless she had asked President Bush in advance for permission to do so. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Sept 21, 2016 17:42:27 GMT
It's all over the news tonight, but I thought this "story" broke quite some weeks ago. Look, Bush may be a former President, but he's also Jeb Bush's father and Jeb wasn't treated well by Trump. Take these stories and what they mean with a grain or two of salt. All living past presidents are in support of Hillary and have denounced Trump. Take those endorsements and what they mean... Two Bushs, a Clinton and Carter Jeb's father and brother, Hillary's husband and a liberal Democrat. I'm shocked I tell ya. Shocked. |
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Post by lisae on Sept 21, 2016 17:49:52 GMT
Trump should be afraid of Barbara. That woman is a pit bull when it comes to her family. She's probably my favorite living First Lady.
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Post by coffeetalk on Sept 21, 2016 17:53:03 GMT
Trump should be afraid of Barbara. That woman is a pit bull when it comes to her family. She's probably my favorite living First Lady. I picture her boxing his ears! SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 17:55:01 GMT
HW has always been known as a "compassionate" conservative, so upon reflection, it doesn't surprise me.
I could never vote for Hillary, but to each his own.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 21, 2016 17:56:14 GMT
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Post by elaine on Sept 21, 2016 18:03:55 GMT
I did more reading on this this afternoon at a story published today. The conversation happened in a receiving line at a party with 40 people attending. So, while it was a conversation between HW and Kennedy, there were others around who heard it - which was confirmed.
That said, I now agree that Kennedy shouldn't have tweeted it, but I also think that it wasn't a truly private conversation and others heard it (but none of them tweeted it), and so it isn't something that HW is holding as a secret.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 20:43:43 GMT
If it weren't true, I think HW Bush would have issued a statement saying so. If he told Kennedy this in private, it should have stayed private. If he meant for her to leak it, then shame on him for not just taking a stand. That sure is a namby-pamby way of endorsing someone. Have the courage to stand up for what you think is right.ITA. This was my problem with Colin Powell's spokesperson verifying the "accuracy" of his emails. If you want to disavow Trump, then have the guts to stand up and say so--party games and pandering be damned. |
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Post by verdepea on Sept 21, 2016 23:06:00 GMT
June 2016 Barbara Bush said she didn't know how women could vote for him:
During a rare interview, former First Lady Barbara Bush sat down with son Jeb Bush to speak with CBS This Morning about the current state of politics, touching particularly on the Republican nominee Donald Trump.
Mrs. Bush said that Trump was like a “comedian or something,” and expressed outrage at the comments he has made about women in particular.
“What about women? I don’t know how women could vote for someone who said what he said about Megyn Kelly. It’s terrible! And we knew what he meant too.”
Mrs. Bush was no doubt referring to comments Trump made last fall about Megyn Kelly insinuating that her menstrual cycle was affecting the way she treated him at the first Republican debate.
The Bushes are not fans of D.T. I still cannot believe people are voting for him and the racial undercurrent that keeps popping up is alarming. I understand a lot of people have taken a position against HRC, but her experience is above and beyond his including national security. He really scares the bejeesus out of me as he will poke the crap out of all the Bears. Maybe HRC is a liar, but he is too and he skeeves me out far more than she does.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 22, 2016 0:09:02 GMT
Hardly surprising. Bet that he isn't the only Bush to vote for Hillary.
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