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Post by **Angie** on Sept 22, 2016 12:28:05 GMT
I can't talk about this with rl friends or family - I'm so happy I have you all....
The condom broke. First time in 7 years of using only condoms. My periods are irregular so I could be ovulating or not. (Oh, and because someone will ask/suggest, I have tried different forms of birth control, but I seem to react to them weirdly.)
At first, I was all "no worries, I would love to have another child, I'm only 42 and other maternal side family members had babies when they were 45/47, it isn't easy for me to get pregnant so I'm probably not going to anyway".
But while I was talking to dh, I started thinking "MS, Avonex, Effexor, a failed dnc, two miscarriages, maybe I'd better get a morning after pill".
Dh agreed, but now I can't stop thinking about everything - the good and bad - if I don't take the pill.
I don't know what to do, but I know I can't wait too long to decide. :/
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 22, 2016 12:35:59 GMT
Do you want a baby? That's the only question you should be asking yourself.
If you do HURRAY!
If not, get thee to the doctor and get Plan B.
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Post by **Angie** on Sept 22, 2016 12:47:22 GMT
I know, elannah. I do, but I'm worried...
I just don't know if I can get over the worries. My first pregnancy was more than textbook perfect. My second was a blighted ovum and a failed dnc at 12 weeks so I ended up having a miscarriage at 18 weeks. My third was another blighted ovum but discovered early enough to take a pill. My ob at the time said my uterus was "folded" and was surprised I had ever gotten pregnant, let alone carried my ds to term.
But along with the worries is the thought "what if this was meant to be?"....
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Post by kristi521 on Sept 22, 2016 12:49:45 GMT
What about an appointment with your doctor to get his/her thoughts from a medical perspective? That way you can weigh all the pros and cons.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 22, 2016 12:55:02 GMT
Honestly? I would get an appointment with an OB and ask these questions. Medications are so weird to begin with and only someone who keeps up with the effects is likely to be able to answer the question with any authority. It sounds like you are conflicted, and you can't make decisions when you don't have all the information. So a quick trip to the OB might be a good use of your time.
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Post by pridemom on Sept 22, 2016 13:02:58 GMT
The window for Plan B is short, are you passed it?
I think you need to talk to your neuro and your OB-GYN as a team, if possible. ASAP
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Post by pierkiss on Sept 22, 2016 13:03:44 GMT
I would get in to talk to the dr and find out what side effects from the meds are a real possibility for a developing fetus. Based on that information is make my decision. For me, if the side effects are catastrophic for a fetus, I would probably go the Plan B route. If not, I would probably not do Plan B.
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Post by anniebeth24 on Sept 22, 2016 13:04:36 GMT
Sending hugs and prayers for wisdom.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 22, 2016 13:06:09 GMT
Ok I got this from drugs.com
Venlafaxine Pregnancy Warnings
Studies in animals have shown reproductive toxicity. There are no controlled data in human pregnancy. AU TGA pregnancy category B2: Drugs which have been taken by only a limited number of pregnant women and women of childbearing age, without an increase in the frequency of malformation or other direct or indirect harmful effects on the human fetus having been observed. Studies in animals are inadequate or may be lacking, but available data show no evidence of an increased occurrence of fetal damage. US FDA pregnancy category C: Animal reproduction studies have shown an adverse effect on the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks.
Get thee to the doctor asap because Effexor can hurt you and Jr. This is enough to make me want to stop taking it. DO NOT QUIT COLD TURKEY. I did and I ended up with another life threatening attempt. Call your doctor and discuss today.Please.
If another baby makes you and hubby happy then go both of you!!!! Babies are wonderful!
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Post by **Angie** on Sept 22, 2016 13:16:03 GMT
I talked to my ob, we're friends. She said to not risk it based on my past history but that she would help whatever I choose.
I'm picking up the meds in a little bit, but I feel a bit heartbroken.
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Post by quiltz on Sept 22, 2016 13:31:16 GMT
I talked to my ob, we're friends. She said to not risk it based on my past history but that she would help whatever I choose. I'm picking up the meds in a little bit, but I feel a bit heartbroken. It is okay to feel a bit heartbroken. Your OB has experience and is your friend. Take the pills & then treat your self with a treat. This is hard right no. ( (( hugs ) ) ). |
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Post by pridemom on Sept 22, 2016 13:36:49 GMT
I talked to my ob, we're friends. She said to not risk it based on my past history but that she would help whatever I choose. I'm picking up the meds in a little bit, but I feel a bit heartbroken. My heart hurts for you. I understand the struggle. While we took permanent measures, I was late a couple of years ago and was daydreaming of babies. On my RA meds, it's extremely risky for pregnancy. Fortunately it was just late. |
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Post by pierkiss on Sept 22, 2016 13:37:07 GMT
I talked to my ob, we're friends. She said to not risk it based on my past history but that she would help whatever I choose. I'm picking up the meds in a little bit, but I feel a bit heartbroken. (((Hugs))) |
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Post by Linda on Sept 22, 2016 13:38:22 GMT
((((Hugs)))) and prayers
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Post by melissa on Sept 22, 2016 14:13:55 GMT
1. In all my years of ob/gyn practice and reading, I admit I have absolutely no clue what a "folded" uterus is. I have never heard of that and cannot think of a uterine anomaly that would match that.
2. Obviously, if you are continuing the pregnancy, Avonex is a class C drug, so it is an unknown risk. Avonex has caused issues in animal studies. The current info from the pregnancy registeries is not showing any higher risk of miscarriage, stillbirth or any particular issues in the babies. The rates of all of those things are the same as in the general population. So, take a deep breathe and move on to your decision.
3. The vast majority of women are quite stable with MS in pregnancy. Pregnancy seems to be a time that is clear of exacerbations. It is well known in our field that pregnancy seems to be a time a very positive time for this disease as far as remissions go. The risk comes after delivery when the risk of exacerbation increases again. Breastfeeding seems to delay that risk.
4. You are 42. The risk of miscarriage is much higher at this age than at any age you were prior. It's simply an age related risk.
5. If you do decide to continue the pregnancy, make sure your doctors report that info to the various registries for interferon based drugs and the one for Avonex, so that information is there for others going forward. Eventually, there may be enough numbers to reclassify the drug.
6. Of course, you don't know if you are going to become pregnant at all, so you can even chose to watch and wait.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 22, 2016 14:22:21 GMT
Hugs to you! What a tough decision. I know if I were in your shoes thinking I could be pregnant I would be having the exact same kinds of thoughts as you. Are my medicines safe? Could I even safely go off them? It's tough decision. And then there's my age and whether or not I'd even want to start over with another baby. I can fully understand all your concerns. I will keep you in my prayers that you have some clarity.
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Post by **Angie** on Sept 22, 2016 14:32:10 GMT
1. In all my years of ob/gyn practice and reading, I admit I have absolutely no clue what a "folded" uterus is. I have never heard of that and cannot think of a uterine anomaly that would match that.  Sorry, that was supposed to say "fold in" not folded. Since no ob/gyn ever mentioned it before the botched dnc, my ob thinks my uterus healed oddly. |
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Post by pjaye on Sept 22, 2016 14:41:38 GMT
FYI, it's not 'dnc' there is no such term, the procedure is called a "dilatation and curettage" and the correct abbreviation is D&C.
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Post by melissa on Sept 22, 2016 14:42:09 GMT
Still not making sense to me. Have never seen a uterus with a fold in it either. If you were pursuing pregnancy actively, I would say to have the proper imaging to evaluate that and that would not be a sonogram either.
Nevertheless, you have a short window to make a decision for plan B. Please make sure you have the most accurate information possible. Avonex may even have a hotline to call.
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Post by **Angie** on Sept 22, 2016 14:56:40 GMT
FYI, it's not 'dnc' there is no such term, the procedure is called a "dilatation and curettage" and the correct abbreviation is D&C. Gah, I know. I hate my phone. |
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 22, 2016 15:01:30 GMT
Hugs.
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Post by **Angie** on Sept 22, 2016 15:04:25 GMT
Still not making sense to me. Have never seen a uterus with a fold in it either. If you were pursuing pregnancy actively, I would say to have the proper imaging to evaluate that and that would not be a sonogram It looks like a flap of tissue (?) just inside the opening to the uterus. Oh, well. Water under the bridge. I took the pill. :/ |
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Post by secondlife on Sept 22, 2016 15:24:46 GMT
Still not making sense to me. Have never seen a uterus with a fold in it either. If you were pursuing pregnancy actively, I would say to have the proper imaging to evaluate that and that would not be a sonogram either. Nevertheless, you have a short window to make a decision for plan B. Please make sure you have the most accurate information possible. Avonex may even have a hotline to call. I wonder if that means that the scar tissue causes the inside of the uterus to appear to have a malformation. At least that is what I'm picturing - I had a small area at the top of my uterus that was not formed quite so and appeared to fold inward. Because it was small my OB observed it would probably stretch out as the pregnancy grew and it did, but if you make a heart shape with your hands that's kind of what it looked like only the ridge inside was smaller. I guess when it is really big it can divide the uterus in two. It did kind of look like a fold. It was visible on ultrasound. |
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Post by mamastone on Sept 22, 2016 17:06:44 GMT
(((Hugs)))
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Post by River on Sept 22, 2016 17:11:16 GMT
(HUGS). I'm sorry you went through so many emotions.
Since you can't do most birth controls are you considering a more permanent solution?
Just me, but I can't imagine using condoms all the time.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 22, 2016 17:22:21 GMT
(((hugs)))
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Post by eastcoastpea on Sept 22, 2016 17:38:50 GMT
Sending hugs your way.
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Post by craftsbycarolyn on Sept 22, 2016 17:46:34 GMT
So sorry.
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Post by heartland on Sept 22, 2016 17:59:53 GMT
(((HUGS)))
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Sorry, that was supposed to say "fold in" not folded. Since no ob/gyn ever mentioned it before the botched dnc, my ob thinks my uterus healed oddly.
