scorpeao
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Post by scorpeao on Aug 8, 2014 15:56:51 GMT
Are they worth it? Do you use it much? In addition to the initial investment, are there other fees that are due monthly/quarterly? I am interested in buying one, but I need first hand experience. Thanks!
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Post by 2peafaithful on Aug 8, 2014 16:06:35 GMT
You can probably get one for free. Some people give it away to get away from the yearly fee's and dues. I haven't ever owned one but I have heard callers on Dave Ramsey's show talk about trying to sell them.
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on Aug 8, 2014 16:13:54 GMT
DO NOT DO IT Can you tell I feel strongly? We bought in 1998 and our maintenance fees were $385 a year. When we finally got rid of it, they were $800. They also had extra fees if there were hurricanes in the area - an extra annual fee. Once you are in them, you can't get out. We had to PAY to get rid of ours. It is a lifetime commitment. You pay the maintenance fee, then possibly an exchange fee and possibly an exchange company fee. We have owned 3 and all were horrible failures for us. They cost us way too much to get out. I would never do one again but if I did, the only one I would even look at would be Disney. Stacy
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valincal
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Post by valincal on Aug 8, 2014 16:14:12 GMT
I don't own one, but don't think they're generally a good idea. It depends, though. From where I live, airfare is to warm locales is very expensive and by time it's said and done we can book an all-inclusive (air included) as cheaply or cheaper than a trip to a time share. Here is a link to a website where you can rent or buy existing timeshares that others are trying to unload. Redweek
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 16:15:58 GMT
My parents have one and they are very happy with it, but it is not right for everyone. First and foremost, you really need to look at it more as prepaid vacation than anything else. It is NOT an investment that is going to appreciate (if you do decide to buy one, check out the secondary market - you will pay much less than direct from the timeshare). My parents have a fractional ownership at a nice timeshare near to where we live. It's a place they like to visit and have reason to come to often, and it's not too far from their home. It's a large, professionally operated complex with strict rules. They own 8 weeks annually and usually use about three of them. The rest they trade in for points that they can use at other timeshares around the country (they can also use them internationally, but that's not how they prefer to travel when they go abroad). They have gone all over the US and have never been disappointed with one of the places they stayed.
The timeshare appeals to them for a few reasons - when they travel they really like having a fully stocked kitchen and other home-like amenities vs. a regular hotel room. The choices they have for exchanging their points are extensive and flexible. There are timeshares available to them all over the nation and in close proximity to most destinations they are interested in. The only US trips they've taken recently that they didn't use timeshares for were NYC and Boston. They also like being able to gift points to family members, which is an awfully nice treat every once and a while. They are retired and love traveling, so they have gotten extensive use out of their timeshare/points. When my stepfather had some serious health issues and they didn't travel much for about a year, they were able to roll some of their points forward, and they gifted some of them to family. It was the first time in the 10 or so years they've had it that they didn't use all their points.
That said, it is definitely not for everyone. Most of the timeshares are not located "in the heart of things" - so if you like to vacation in cities, they may not be a good choice. I would not consider a timeshare that didn't have an exchange option, and I would not consider one that required I be involved in the management at all. I have heard many times that people with kids have a harder time using their timeshares because of their limited times they can travel. My parents have great flexibility with dates because they are retired, and that is a huge advantage for them. If you are working around school schedules, you will probably have a harder time getting bookings because that's when everyone else wants to go as well.
There are quarterly fees with my parents' timeshare and though I don't know exactly what they are, they aren't insignificant. It's worth it for them. My mom was a CFO and believe me, she has priced it out many times over the years and based on their usage, they are still coming out ahead. That's not the case for many, though.
Basically, think long and hard about what your usage will REALLY be like (not in your dream world LOL), check the secondary market, and see if it makes sense. It's awesome for some, terrible for others.
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Post by gar on Aug 8, 2014 16:44:07 GMT
My parents had one for many, many years and got a lot of pleasure out of it. They stopped going when it changed hands, things changed and they no longer enjoyed it. Friends of my in-laws also had one in Portugal and still use it regualrly without problems although they are reasonably well off and I have no idea what their fees might be.
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Post by magentapea on Aug 8, 2014 16:57:05 GMT
My parents have one. They had the initial investment and then yearly maintenance dues. My cousin rented the unit next to my parents for a vacation the same week we were there (similar 3 bedroom unit directly next to my parents) and their weekly rental rate was LESS than my parents annual fees! Knowing that and how difficult they are to get rid of, there is NO WAY I would buy one.
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Post by eebud on Aug 8, 2014 17:05:03 GMT
I have friends that have one that they enjoy but I think it is a bit different than some of the traditional timeshares. In their case, they have bought 2 weeks a year for 10 years. They paid a fee up front and they pay a much reduced amount when they reserve a condo. At the end of the 10 years, it is over. I am not sure about a lot of the specifics like what happens if they skip a year. These friends like to go back to the same place over and over again. They like a condo with cooking supplies because they like to cook on vacation.
This is not for me. First, I don't want to go back to the same place year after year. I like to mix it up.
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scorpeao
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Post by scorpeao on Aug 8, 2014 17:14:42 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I have two friends who are always talking about how great owning one is; I've always thought they seemed like a scam. I'll stay away from one. I don't need any buyers remorse.
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finaledition
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Post by finaledition on Aug 8, 2014 17:17:22 GMT
Not owners, but we do like the accommodations of time shares. We rent from red week as linked in a previous post. My parents have owned one for many years and loved it initially, but have since found other types of travel they prefer and hate being burdened with it.
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Post by lindah on Aug 8, 2014 17:32:37 GMT
We had one many years ago. Did not use it as we had thought, then it was almost impossible to get rid of. We ended up having to do a quit claim & are finally out from under it.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 8, 2014 18:16:04 GMT
I'll be a dissenter and say that we love ours.
We bought into Hilton Grand Vacation Club in 2000. Not sure, I would choose to buy into them at this point as the prices have gone up significantly. But, with ours we can do a two bedroom suite (kitchen/dining/living area) in HI for a week (it's normally $500 a night for the room we book.) We do pay $800 maintenance fees annually and there is a small booking fee. We tend to do HI every other year. On non-HI years, we use them to stay in California, Las Vegas, FL, etc. Some years we don't use all our points, we can roll those over to the next year or roll them over into our Hilton Hhonors account and from there use them to book at any Hilton location. There is the option to transfer points into RCI and book any of their properties, but those seem a little sketchy to me and we haven't done it. We never end up with wasted points as once they move to Hhonors, they are good forever. We also use Hilton when we travel for work and combine those points...we never pay for a hotel room unless we are traveling through a town with no Hilton properties (pretty rare.)
So for us...it's been money well spent. It has given us the opportunity to travel more and stay at a nicer and larger property (two bedrooms with our teens is a great plus) than we would if we didn't have our membership. I did the math and with the value of the rooms we get and the costs (purchase price, annual fees, etc.) we are ahead $30K after 14 years.
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Post by melodyesch on Aug 8, 2014 19:48:27 GMT
I'll be watching this thread. DH has toyed off an on with the idea of one. But I tell him that the money we would spend in fees per year would pay for a good vacation. But I'm curious what others think.
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maurchclt
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Post by maurchclt on Aug 8, 2014 21:57:37 GMT
While I don't know much about how it works my sister has Starwoods and LOVES it, she's had it for years, as a matter of fact has several time shares. She is able to go on vacation any place in the country, she takes family and friends with her and has been able to rent out weeks if she isn't using it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 23:36:31 GMT
GAVE one on the beach in Myrtle Beach, SC to a guy in a divorce b/c it was (fully paid off) at best worthless and realistically a debt.
Idiot thought he got one over on me.....
After you pay - or pay off - the purchase price, there are annual maintenance fees and taxes. Then you pay an additional annual fee to a timeshare vacation club for the 'right' to trade your week for another week in another property. Ugh! Also, at least for mine, there was NO resale market and it did not appreciate in value.
It was waaayyyy cheaper just to rent something or stay on a resort on e a year.
Of course, your mileage may vary, yada, yada, yada.
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Post by keknj on Aug 9, 2014 0:12:10 GMT
We had one and it was a pain in the tush to get rid of. There were fees every quarter and if we did want to use it, we had more fees to pay. We ended up giving it back to the company and had to pay a lawyer in order to do so. It was awful but I was so glad to finally be out from under it!
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Post by Sharon on Aug 9, 2014 0:18:16 GMT
We have one in Costa Rica. We thoroughly enjoy ours.
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Post by elaine on Aug 9, 2014 0:23:35 GMT
We bought into the Disney Timeshare program 8 years ago - the Disney Vacation Club - and love it. We get a yearly allotment of points that we can use at any time we choose at a variety of Disney resorts (FL, CA, HI, Hilton Head, Vero Beach) and even the Disney Cruise Line (we took a cruise with our points 2 years ago). We could also use them at a number of non-Disney properties, but haven't done that yet.
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Post by JustKim on Aug 9, 2014 0:33:42 GMT
I bought one 3 years ago from someone who could not travel anymore. It is for one resort only but its the resort we had gone to for a couple of years. It was originally a 30 year share but when we took it over there was 7 years left with 1 extra week. We love it but it is also nice because it was only 7 years and then we can figure out if we want to do it again. Fees are $500 a year for 1 week, no booking fees. We also run into people at the resort needing to get rid of theirs because they are getting older and cannot travel much longer. They are usually free. I go on vacations, not trips (itinerary), and love going to the same place. When ours expires I will seriously consider another one.
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tracylynn
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 9, 2014 1:17:41 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I have two friends who are always talking about how great owning one is; I've always thought they seemed like a scam. I'll stay away from one. I don't need any buyers remorse. If you can get one "for free" (usually pay a transfer fee) then I think it's worth it. I wouldn't buy one. That doesn't make sense to me at all. My parents ended up with one because her boss and his fiance had like 3-4 between them. Mom paid the deed transfer on one of them and done. They have a $400/yr maintenance fee and that's it. And it's deeded, which is great. That said, it's not for everyone. But it's not an investment for sure.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 9, 2014 1:24:49 GMT
I have close friends that have one, they love it. But like others have said, they just look at is as prepaid hotel expenses. They did not buy it to be an investment. They just love to vacation and this is a way they like to do it. They bought a certain number of points and then you spend those points at various hotels around the world. More desirable locations cost more points. You can trade your points with other owners online or give them to friends or family. I have also been told that the timeshare can be passed down to your kids when you die. And yes, they have said there are tons of fees and dues always having to be paid.
That couple's daughter recently decided to purchase her own. She got buyer's remorse about two years into ownership and decided to try to sell it and quickly found out they are just about impossible to get rid of. So I would say if you're going to do it, be sure it's really a good idea for you.
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Post by stingfan on Aug 9, 2014 1:37:46 GMT
We have one that's every other year. So we pay half the regular maintenance fees every year and we get a week's vacation every other year. Works out well for us. We have 4 kids so being able to afford to stay in 2 bedroom condos is great. We always deposit ours into RCI's exchange bank - we've never actually stayed at the resort we bought into. We've used it several times to go to Disney World. Without our timeshare, it would really cost too much for us to go there very often.
We did pay off the initial cost almost immediately. So now we pay maintenance fees and exchange fees. We've been happy with ours. I don't think that our vacations would be near as nice without it.
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Post by craftchickapowpow on Aug 9, 2014 2:20:44 GMT
I was gifted a membership that were purchased by the original owner in 1971. We pay only a monthly maintenance fee of around $90.00 which gives us enough points to go to any property in the timeshare family for 5 to 10 days depending on the season/# of bedrooms/location. I would NOT have bought a membership because the initial buy-in is pretty expensive but since I was gifted the membership, it's great. We use VRBO a lot also and have never had a bad experience. I can rent a lot of VRBO properties for the $20,000 buy-in. When our membership lapses in 2021 we're free to walk away.
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Post by txdancermom on Aug 9, 2014 2:26:22 GMT
dh's parents had one - maintenance/annual fees got extremely expensive - and we had a devil of a time getting them to take it back when they went into a nursing home.
dh's sister has one, she and her dh use it and they feel it is worth it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2014 2:37:04 GMT
We have several and we get bonus weeks and excursions. Our home resort is on Kauai (why I am not sure). We have 3 weeks there and maybe a week somewhere else. We traded 2 weeks last year to go to Kona Hawaiian Resort on the Big Island and then my parents went to their home resort for 2 weeks. Later this year they are going to Palm Desert to stay in a time share once again. (bonus week). My BIL and sister have time share points in Nuevo Vallarta. They love their home resort. It is very nice with all the amenities. I liked it a lot and BFF and I went there for 10 days. That was a lot of fun. BIL and his new wife bought some more points so they can go for longer the next time. They are happy with the time share program. It isn't for everyone. It isn't for me and I don't feel the need to own any. I go to the presentations to get the free stuff (the same as everyone else does) and that is ok. I think we would buy ours again.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Aug 9, 2014 3:04:50 GMT
I inherited my dad's. It was a deeded one. It is through Wyndham. I just think of it as a prepaid vacation. I wouldn't consider buying one now, but I've looked into transfering our home base because the fees are more expensive and I have no desire to go there to stay. We have a lot of options of where to use our points. We don't save then or convert them to be used through RCI since there's a fee attached. I like that is makes us go on vacation, otherwise my dh would want to skip it. Our maintenance fees seem a bit high compared to some others mentioned. We just have a basic level. The higher levels come with more perks. I love the resorts! I'm ready to go and steal a bed because I have no problems with my back when I'm on vacation. We mostly go to Vegas, Myrtle Beach, Atlantic City and Orlando. I'm going to try for Hawaii next year, but I don't think I'll be able to get in. We are spoiled having a nice apartment when we travel. The laundry is something we miss the convenience of in hotel rooms. I don't want this to be a burden to my dh or ds one day so hopefully there will be a way to get rid of it.
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