rodeomom
Pearl Clutcher
Refupee # 380 "I don't have to run fast, I just have to run faster than you."
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Post by rodeomom on Oct 13, 2016 15:36:27 GMT
( I know that some will see this as trying to bait Trump supporters, but I'm really not. I am posting this because of the supporters I have seen on TV and wondering if the peas felt the same way.)
Is there anyone who does NOT believe that:
1) Trump did NOT use his beauty pageants to walk in on girls/women when they were undressing. In light of his saying on tape that he did and some of the girls/women saying that he did.
2) Trump did NOT forcibly kiss women. In light of his tape from the buss and the People writer claims of him pushing her against the wall, and forcibly kissed her.
3) Plus all of the other women who have come forward alleging they were sexually assaulted by Trump. Is there anyone who believes Trump was just talking about it? That it was just "locker room talk" ??
4) Does anyone believe it's just the media going after Trump?
5) For the people who were going to vote for Trump, has any of this changed your mind?
I'm wondering if another poll was taken today on this board would the results would be the same?
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MizIndependent
Drama Llama
Quit your bullpoop.
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Post by MizIndependent on Oct 13, 2016 17:08:48 GMT
To be very honest, I would doubt any of this will change any minds, because "at least he's not Hillary". That mentality goes both ways.
The #NeverHillary, #NeverTrump sentiment runs so deeply in this country that it is breaking the US in half...which is likely exactly what it was designed to do. Keep us divided and fighting among ourselves so we're easier to control. God forbid we should overcome our differences and stand together against corporate greed and governmental corruption. We might actually effect change!
ETA: a perfect example of "mine is bad but yours is worse" from CNN (05SEP2016)
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 13, 2016 17:14:57 GMT
Oh sure there are a lot of people who believe he didn't do any of that or that it doesn't matter what he did. Just read this board.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 13, 2016 19:06:19 GMT
Or he was recently save so we should forgive him.
Or as Maya Angelou said,: When someone shows you who they are believe them the first time.
I think that guy has shown us over and over and over
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 13, 2016 19:14:16 GMT
I believe that all of the above are true, but from posts I've seen on Facebook it seems that his supporters do not believe. Or they don't care.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 13, 2016 19:19:20 GMT
I believe that all of the above are true, but from posts I've seen on Facebook it seems that his supporters do not believe. Or they don't care. I do believe all are true, and my thoughts have nothing to do with Hillary.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 13, 2016 20:22:51 GMT
I believe that all of the above are true, but from posts I've seen on Facebook it seems that his supporters do not believe. Or they don't care. I do believe all are true, and my thoughts have nothing to do with Hillary. Same. In my mind, she has nothing to do with my feelings regarding Trump. On this issue or others.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 21:16:23 GMT
I do believe all those things are most likely true. I was undecided. Today, I'm not going to vote. I can't vote for either. Tommorow....who knows. I live in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter anyway.
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Post by papersilly on Oct 13, 2016 21:17:59 GMT
I was listening to CNN at lunch and they said that Trumps followers before all this scandalous stuff came out are still his followers today. his core group is unwavering. unfortunately (for him), he is not growing the voters he needs to win. his core group simply isn't enough to win at this point.
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rodeomom
Pearl Clutcher
Refupee # 380 "I don't have to run fast, I just have to run faster than you."
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Location: Chickasaw Nation, Oklahoma
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Post by rodeomom on Oct 13, 2016 21:22:07 GMT
I do believe all those things are most likely true. I was undecided. Today, I'm not going to vote. I can't vote for either. Tommorow....who knows. I live in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter anyway. I also live in a very very red state. I know that my vote will not matter. But I'm sure as hell going to vote! I bet Trump gets every county in this state. I'm still going to vote.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 21:27:23 GMT
I do believe all those things are most likely true. I was undecided. Today, I'm not going to vote. I can't vote for either. Tommorow....who knows. I live in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter anyway. Your vote does matter in congressional elections, so I urge you to cast your vote in the US Rep. race and local races, even if you don't vote for a Pres. candidate. ETA: From BallotpediaAt the top of that linked page, you can click to see your local sample ballot and the choices you will have.
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Post by gritzi on Oct 13, 2016 21:38:37 GMT
My vote won't change because I'll forever believe that Hillary is far worse than Trump on Trump's worse day.
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scrappinspidey2
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Oct 13, 2016 22:15:30 GMT
I live in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter anyway. I believe this is the one election where what one state used to be may not matter anymore. Too many are switching sides or going independent so Im not sure that just because a state typically votes one way, that it will go this way. I do believe every vote counts in any election but I believe that is even more true this go around. I have friends who are in the "anyone but her" camp and I have friends in the "anyone but him camp" I don't think people are voting based on issues etc. It is a strict popularity contest at this point in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 22:50:28 GMT
I do believe all those things are most likely true. I was undecided. Today, I'm not going to vote. I can't vote for either. Tommorow....who knows. I live in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter anyway. Your vote does matter in congressional elections, so I urge you to cast your vote in the US Rep. race and local races, even if you don't vote for a Pres. candidate. ETA: From BallotpediaAt the top of that linked page, you can click to see your local samp le ballot and the choices you will have. Mike Conway is on my ballot....he will win without my vote easily. He is the Republican incumbent and a libertarian is his only opponent.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 22:57:04 GMT
Your vote does matter in congressional elections, so I urge you to cast your vote in the US Rep. race and local races, even if you don't vote for a Pres. candidate. ETA: From BallotpediaAt the top of that linked page, you can click to see your local sample ballot and the choices you will have. Ted Cruz is on my ballot....he will win without my vote easily and I'm not fond of him either. While he was reading Dr. Suess, I was on the trip of a lifetime hoping to see a national park which was closed because of him. Please check carefully. Everything I can find with a google search says Cruz is not up for re-election until 2018. Also, ALL seats in the House are up for election. You will have candidates for House seats on your ballot. Save
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 23:03:05 GMT
I have seen posts that basically say she's worse, no matter what he said or did. I've seen a few "anyone but her" and "anyone but him" posts as well.
Right now, I'm determined to vote the R that represents my district out.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 13, 2016 23:56:24 GMT
I live in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter anyway. I believe this is the one election where what one state used to be may not matter anymore. Too many are switching sides or going independent so Im not sure that just because a state typically votes one way, that it will go this way. I do believe every vote counts in any election but I believe that is even more true this go around. I have friends who are in the "anyone but her" camp and I have friends in the "anyone but him camp" I don't think people are voting based on issues etc. It is a strict popularity contest at this point in the game. I don't think it is popularity. They have given voters a clear choice it seems to me to be who can you stomach more, or who do you think will do the least amount of damage. I happen to be in the Hillary camp not because she is popular, but because her values align with mine. I do think that the campaign has been more about personality and character.. so if you consider that to be popularity, I can see where you think that it what people are voting on
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 13, 2016 23:58:26 GMT
I do believe all those things are most likely true. I was undecided. Today, I'm not going to vote. I can't vote for either. Tommorow....who knows. I live in a red state, so my vote doesn't matter anyway. I also live in a very very red state. I know that my vote will not matter. But I'm sure as hell going to vote! I bet Trump gets every county in this state. I'm still going to vote. I live in a blue state, NY. Dems typically take every national election. But, like you, I'm still voting.
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Post by lovetodigi on Oct 14, 2016 2:09:32 GMT
He pretty much admitted to all of it in his own voice, in the video with Billy Bush and the interview with Howard Stern. What bothers me the most is that he apparently walked in on young girls during the Miss Teen Pagent. Some of his followers just won't care about any of it and I find that sad.
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