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Post by elaine on Oct 15, 2016 17:45:32 GMT
link to story
Three white men were arrested in Kansas and stopped from carrying out their plan to bomb an apartment building with 4 vehicles loaded with explosives. The residents of the targeted apartment are mostly Somali. The radical terrorist anti-government trio wanted to "wake people up." I sadly think that we will see more of this in the near future given the rhetoric of Trump's campaign. ETA: link - One terrorist is a confirmed Trump Supporter
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 17:50:45 GMT
I sadly think that we will see more of this in the near future given the rhetoric of Trump's campaign. People like Tim McVeigh existed long before this election cycle.
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Post by flanz on Oct 15, 2016 17:53:17 GMT
I sadly think that we will see more of this in the near future given the rhetoric of Trump's campaign. People like Tim McVeigh existed long before this election cycle. Agreed, but Trump's hatemongering for over a year now has ginned up and given extra confidence to the crazies out there! The way his supporters are treating journalists and women and people of color and Muslims, etc. etc. is, in fact, deplorable! Trump and others who encourage this behaviour and incite this hatred, as well as those who stand by and by their inaction, their unwillingness to call him / them out on these behaviours, are enabling all of it. Despicable!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 17:59:07 GMT
I agree Elaine....I think this type of crap is only going to escalate when that prick loses next month. I can only hope that our LE departments and the federal authorities are on top of these type of "patriots" and shut that shit down quickly. Donald Trump would have been Tim McVeigh's wet dream as a candidate. Manifesto
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 15, 2016 18:03:05 GMT
I sadly think that we will see more of this in the near future given the rhetoric of Trump's campaign. People like Tim McVeigh existed long before this election cycle. Tim McVeigh targeted the Federal government, not caring about the race, religion or immigration status of his victims. This Kansas group was anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim and, IMHO, were emboldened by the rhetoric of the Trump campaign.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 18:04:30 GMT
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 15, 2016 18:05:17 GMT
Now you know you can't call them "terrorists". We just don't know that any more than we could call all the mass shootings by Muslims "terrorism" (at least according to Obama).
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Post by elaine on Oct 15, 2016 18:09:37 GMT
I sadly think that we will see more of this in the near future given the rhetoric of Trump's campaign. People like Tim McVeigh existed long before this election cycle. Yes. And Trump's been bringing them out into the light of day and making them feel justified, supported and emboldened. Timothy McVeigh didn't target black Muslim immigrants either. If you can't see a direct connection with Trump's rhetoric and that particular population being targeted by these radical white terrorists, I can't help you. Eta: I see bc2ca said the same thing while I was typing.
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Post by M~ on Oct 15, 2016 18:09:49 GMT
It's par for the course. I also read a report about 2 white men with guns standing in front of the Democratic party's offices in Virginia. eyeroll. I suppose these are a few in the basket of deplorables.
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Post by elaine on Oct 15, 2016 18:21:26 GMT
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Post by elaine on Oct 15, 2016 18:24:09 GMT
The attack and a published manifesto were scheduled for November 9th. There is no way to spin this as not being connected to THIS election cycle. link to NPR story
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 15, 2016 18:28:42 GMT
There is not one mention of Trump in that article you linked. I am missing the connection.
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Post by elaine on Oct 15, 2016 18:44:58 GMT
There is not one mention of Trump in that article you linked. I am missing the connection. Read the Facebook post by Allen in which he declares himself to be a Trump supporter. The line is even highlighted to make it easier to find. eta: I have linked a number of different stories; the one linked where I mention confirmed Trump Supporter is all about that one topic. Maybe you are looking at one of the other stories - they all have different information regarding these deplorables.
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Post by Nink on Oct 15, 2016 18:46:13 GMT
There is not one mention of Trump in that article you linked. I am missing the connection. It's in the headline as well as the article itself.
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Post by kellybelly77 on Oct 15, 2016 19:00:29 GMT
This was in Garden City which is clear out west by the CO border. The city has a large immigrant population. There are lots of farms and meat packing plants. My CEO owns a couple businesses out there and I bet 3/4 of our employees are minorities/immigrants. I am glad they caught these guys. This could have been disastrous.
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Post by elaine on Oct 15, 2016 19:03:09 GMT
This was in Garden City which is clear out west by the CO border. The city has a large immigrant population. There are lots of farms and meat packing plants. My CEO owns a couple businesses out there and I bet 3/4 of our employees are minorities/immigrants. I am glad they caught these guys. This could have been disastrous. Yes, the immigrants living in the building mainly worked in a packing plant.
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Post by flanz on Oct 15, 2016 19:09:45 GMT
glad for the arrests. sad and angry that these people are out there!
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Post by flanz on Oct 15, 2016 19:10:57 GMT
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 15, 2016 20:20:16 GMT
There is not one mention of Trump in that article you linked. I am missing the connection. It's in the headline as well as the article itself. My comment was about the OPs link. Not the subsequent stuff that has since been posted. The headline linked in the OPs post says "Three Arrested in Bomb Plot Targeting Somalis in Kansas" ETA: I did this edit within seconds of posting. Her ETA link was after I posted my original comment.
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Post by elaine on Oct 15, 2016 20:32:12 GMT
It's in the headline as well as the article itself. My comment was about the OPs link. Not the subsequent stuff that has since been posted. The headline linked in the OPs post says "Three Arrested in Bomb Plot Targeting Somalis in Kansas" ETA: I did this edit within seconds of posting. Her ETA link was after I posted my original comment. No. I first edited the OP adding the link and then had a separate post with just the link. If you look at the order of the posts, my post with the single link confirming one was a trump supporter is two posts above your post. I can't change the timeline of where posts show up. The link was presented twice before your post.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 15, 2016 20:34:54 GMT
People like Tim McVeigh existed long before this election cycle. Tim McVeigh targeted the Federal government, not caring about the race, religion or immigration status of his victims. This Kansas group was anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim and, IMHO, were emboldened by the rhetoric of the Trump campaign. BIG difference. The fact that they were planning this attack for the day after the election speaks to the political motives. I am thankful for the FBI and local law enforcement.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 22:04:16 GMT
It's par for the course. I also read a report about 2 white men with guns standing in front of the Democratic party's offices in Virginia. eyeroll. I suppose these are a few in the basket of deplorables. YOu do recall the Black Panthers outside a polling place on the actual day of voting in Philly...and how the Obama Justice Dept failed to bring charges against them, don't you? There's very little I can be troubled to be worked up over (and yes, I fully believe Trump and HRC both are both a waste of skin) because so much of the outrage I read about today in regards to Trump never seemed to be much of an issue in the past. My daughter said it best yesterday. Trump is the epitome of what's wrong with much of society. HRC is the epitome of what is so wrong in Washington. Pretty much. This nation loses either way. I'm not excited at the thought of either candidate winning and have equal fears about them both.
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 15, 2016 22:29:10 GMT
:eek: :eek: :eek: I was born in Liberal. Don't live there now but wow. Way to close to home!!
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Post by Merge on Oct 15, 2016 22:44:40 GMT
It's par for the course. I also read a report about 2 white men with guns standing in front of the Democratic party's offices in Virginia. eyeroll. I suppose these are a few in the basket of deplorables. YOu do recall the Black Panthers outside a polling place on the actual day of voting in Philly...and how the Obama Justice Dept failed to bring charges against them, don't you? You do recall the GOP lawyers who "watched" the polls in Philly in 2004, questioning the credentials of every single young voter who showed up that day, requiring them to bring a friend who could sign an affidavit of identity and residence, causing voters to have to wait for many hour, don't you? And how the Bush Justice Department failed to bring charges against them? Voter suppression under the guise of "watching for fraud" is the GOP's favorite desperation strategy. They've got no leg to stand on where supposed voter intimidation at ONE polling station is concerned. Bush's long history of tilting justice
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Post by lindas on Oct 16, 2016 1:05:10 GMT
It's par for the course. I also read a report about 2 white men with guns standing in front of the Democratic party's offices in Virginia. eyeroll. I suppose these are a few in the basket of deplorables. I guess you conveniently forgot about this Black panthers in philly. What basket do they belong in?
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Post by M~ on Oct 16, 2016 1:29:12 GMT
It's par for the course. I also read a report about 2 white men with guns standing in front of the Democratic party's offices in Virginia. eyeroll. I suppose these are a few in the basket of deplorables. I guess you conveniently forgot about this Black panthers in philly. What basket do they belong in? Probably not the "not deplorable enough to plot to murder innocent people," basket, unlike your boys who are the subject of this thread.
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Post by lurkingsince2001 on Oct 16, 2016 2:27:46 GMT
I try to avoid political threads like the plague. I'm sure I'll regret joining in now.
But the night Obama was elected, I was in a hotel outside St. Louis. There was a large amount of celebrating going on. As I heard one black man put it, "Now that one of our own is in the House, we'll be able to get away with murder. We'll just do whatever we want." I suspect that people who feel disenfranchised often act out when they think those in power (or potential power as it is in this case) support them. Trump supporters aren't the first and certainly won't be the last. Perhaps instead of blaming their rallying point society should work on why they feel that way in the first place.
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Post by elaine on Oct 16, 2016 2:49:43 GMT
I try to avoid political threads like the plague. I'm sure I'll regret joining in now. But the night Obama was elected, I was in a hotel outside St. Louis. There was a large amount of celebrating going on. As I heard one black man put it, "Now that one of our own is in the House, we'll be able to get away with murder. We'll just do whatever we want." I suspect that people who feel disenfranchised often act out when they think those in power (or potential power as it is in this case) support them. Trump supporters aren't the first and certainly won't be the last. Perhaps instead of blaming their rallying point society should work on why they feel that way in the first place.Or one could do both. Most people can focus on more than one thing at a time. Given that Trump actively encourages aggressive behavior on the part of his followers in his rallies- something Obama never did - I think it is prudent to focus on Trump and the impact of his recklessness, in addition to why that part of society feels so disenfranchised that they think it is a good idea to bomb an apartment building of innocent immigrants who work hard in a packing plant.
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Post by LiLi on Oct 16, 2016 3:04:00 GMT
There are many Trump supporters who aren't like these people. However, people like this are Trump supporters. He stands for exactly the same things that they do. I wish that Trump supporters would recognize this and think again about what they are voting for
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