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Post by izzyscraps on Oct 23, 2016 3:19:51 GMT
I generally stay out of politics but am curious. Is anyone on this board voting for Trump, or is the consensus for Hilary?
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 23, 2016 3:21:44 GMT
There are quite a few who have vocalized they will be voting for Trump and I am sure there are quite a few that are voting for him, but will not vocalize it here as this place is pretty anti trump.
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Post by izzyscraps on Oct 23, 2016 3:26:12 GMT
Yeah. I'm not here all the time, but all the threads I've seen are pretty nasty against Trump. I don't want to defend Trump, but I'm not all the crazy about Hilary either. She hasn't been so great.
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Post by seikashaven on Oct 23, 2016 3:26:25 GMT
I think there are many who will vote for him on this board. There is a wide variety of perspectives and political persuasions here. I do think that the Hilary supporters are currently louder and more vocal about their choice. There's also a theme of, "only brain dead idiots would vote for Trump" so I think less confrontational Peas may be less likely to share their support of him.
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Post by bay63 on Oct 23, 2016 3:30:13 GMT
There are quite a few who have vocalized they will be voting for Trump and I am sure there are quite a few that are voting for him, but will not vocalize it here as this place is pretty anti trump. hehehheheh I noticed that!!
I will be voting for him.
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Post by scrapsuzy on Oct 23, 2016 3:41:11 GMT
I'm not voting for either of them, but for Johnson (he will be on the ballot in all 50 states.)
So there. I said it.
The only thing that could change that would be if some miracle happens before the election and I have another option. That's why I won't vote early... just in case.
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Post by tracylynn on Oct 23, 2016 4:18:07 GMT
I'm not voting for either of them, but for Johnson (he will be on the ballot in all 50 states.) So there. I said it. The only thing that could change that would be if some miracle happens before the election and I have another option. That's why I won't vote early... just in case. Not sure what miracle you're hoping for. Even if Trump were to bow out, the GOP can't replace him on the ballot. The ballots are printed. Voting has happened. There are rules about how you can get on a ballot. It can't happen.
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Post by gritzi on Oct 23, 2016 4:22:43 GMT
Hell will freeze over first before my vote would ever be cast for Hillary.
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Post by hop2 on Oct 23, 2016 6:14:21 GMT
I think there are many who will vote for him on this board. There is a wide varietyof perspectives and political persuasions here. I do think that the Hilary supporters are currently louder and more vocal about their choice. There's also a theme of, "only brain dead idiots would vote for Trump" so I think less confrontational Peas may be less likely to share their support of him. I don't think it's only Brain dead idiots. Some people just want change in washington. Drastic change. Some people are tired of writing blank checks to the special interests of the Democratic Party, our debt is big enough, we can't afford anymore. Some people don't want Democratic appointments to the Supreme Court. There's the anyone but Hillary camp, who I completely understand. There are many various reasons not to vote for Hillary she's not an appealing candidate to many. I'd love to not vote for Hillary. However, she wins the lesser of two evils battle in my mind. Which ever way, please just vote. It's important.
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 23, 2016 12:23:22 GMT
You probably would have gotten better results with a blind poll. Over time, more and more of Mr. Trump's supporters have stopped responding to the political threads due to some fairly vigorous discussions.
I read something somewhere yesterday about how part of the question of how accurate the polls are has to do with how many of Mr. Trump's (and Sect. Clinton's) supporters won't admit who they are going to vote for because of public perception. I would guess a flat out question here would garner the same results...
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Oct 23, 2016 12:56:23 GMT
I'm voting for Trump.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Oct 23, 2016 16:20:30 GMT
The last time there was a poll there were quite a few peas voting for Trump.
I don't think anyone support Trump is brain dead, I think they have different priorities and believe different news sources, than me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 16:40:05 GMT
You probably would have gotten better results with a blind poll. Over time, more and more of Mr. Trump's supporters have stopped responding to the political threads due to some fairly vigorous discussions. I read something somewhere yesterday about how part of the question of how accurate the polls are has to do with how many of Mr. Trump's (and Sect. Clinton's) supporters won't admit who they are going to vote for because of public perception. I would guess a flat out question here would garner the same results... I'll have to disagree with your assessment of "vigorous discussions". It's ugly here. It's uglier than it even was in 2004, 2008, or 2012. I don't like or support either candidate. AT THIS TIME, I will not cast a vote for either Trump or Clinton. As much as I wish I could cast my vote for Johnson, I just cannot. I understand that the left hates Trump. I can almost understand their vitriol towards him. (face it, he brings much of it on himself) But the words and attitude I've seen directed at people who are or may vote for him sickens me. If Americans can treat one another so poorly, over which candidate we will support and vote for, not only are we in complete distress regardless of which candidate wins because neither are qualified or can be trusted to be Presidential, but we Americans cannot even support or respect one another. Whomever wins on Nov 8th doesn't matter. We're completely fucked either way. The nation will be in distress. Americans will still be as divided and disrespectful of anyone who believes differently than they do. It's so disheartening to see people treat one another like this.
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 23, 2016 17:07:22 GMT
I'll have to disagree with your assessment of "vigorous discussions". It's ugly here. It's uglier than it even was in 2004, 2008, or 2012. I don't like or support either candidate. I used the term 'vigorous' because I did not want to start an argument about which side has been more ugly than the other. I have tried very hard over the course of many discussions to be as polite as I can about the views I hold and this thread is no different. I mentioned that Mr. Trump's supporters are already feeling alienated and would likely not participate in this thread...and part of the reason is that there is so much of the 'yeah, but...' thing that happens in every. single. discussion. In order to avoid that, I tried to avoid more inflammatory language.
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Post by auntkelly on Oct 23, 2016 17:26:32 GMT
I'm voting for Trump and I think the majority of my friends and family probably are as well, although I don't think anyone is very excited about it.
If you tend to have a conservative outlook on politics and life in general, then it's only natural you would tend to vote for the more conservative candidate (or at least the one who claims to be a conservative).
I don't post on many political threads anymore for a lot of different reasons. It does seem like the board used to be a lot more balanced between conservative and liberal posters, but it seems like now there are many more liberal posters. I don't think the board reflects society in general though. I think in real life, our country is split pretty evenly between people with a conservative outlook versus those with a liberal outlook, which I think is a good thing for our country as a whole.
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Post by Country Ham on Oct 23, 2016 17:34:50 GMT
I haven't 100% decided but I am leaning towards voting republican. Unfortunately that happens to be Trump but it's about the Supreme court nominees. I personally hold to a lot of conservative values and feel those appointees will come from a republican government. (There are also wonderful liberal values too, I would like to see a balance but if I have to have it heavier on one end of the spectrum I would lean conservative)
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 23, 2016 18:32:29 GMT
I'm voting for Trump and I think the majority of my friends and family probably are as well, although I don't think anyone is very excited about it. If you tend to have a conservative outlook on politics and life in general, then it's only natural you would tend to vote for the more conservative candidate (or at least the one who claims to be a conservative). I don't post on many political threads anymore for a lot of different reasons. It does seem like the board used to be a lot more balanced between conservative and liberal posters, but it seems like now there are many more liberal posters. I don't think the board reflects society in general though. I think in real life, our country is split pretty evenly between people with a conservative outlook versus those with a liberal outlook, which I think is a good thing for our country as a whole. It IS healthy to have voters on all points of the Left-Right spectrum of political ideology. And yes, it would be only natural for a conservative to vote for a nominee named Bush or Romney or McCain. Do the unprecedented personal characteristics/behavior of THIS nominee - including his repeated challenge of the legitimacy of the election results - change anything for you? My husband and I had an interesting What-If discussion last night. Scenario: The Democratic nominee is Donald Trump (complete with the personal behaviors, reactions, and motivations we've seen so far), and the Republican nominee is Ted Cruz. We both think Cruz is a scary combination of extreme and smart, we disagree with almost everything he believes, and we would be loathe to accept his Supreme Court nominees, but we both reluctantly concluded that in this case we would vote for man person over party. It was painful, though, even just discussing it.
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Post by Sam on Oct 23, 2016 18:39:13 GMT
Good for you, because I assume you mean you are voting Republican? That you are voting for a party you believe in and what that party represents? That you believe in the basic beliefs and policies of that party no matter what the preferred candidate may or may not have said or who they may be.
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Post by amym on Oct 23, 2016 19:24:26 GMT
I'm voting for Trump.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Oct 23, 2016 19:30:15 GMT
Good for you, because I assume you mean you are voting Republican? That you are voting for a party you believe in and what that party represents? That you believe in the basic beliefs and policies of that party no matter what the preferred candidate may or may not have said or who they may be. Well both really. I jive more with the Republican beliefs and policies. However, as much as I will agree that Trump leaves a lot to be desired, when it comes down to the things that I feel are important, he is the one that I think can and will get the job done. I said 4 years ago that Trump would run and that he'd have the balls to do what other politicians , on both sides of the aisle, haven't been able or weren't willing to do. I have already stated my reasons why on a previous thread. Save
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 20:34:16 GMT
Good for you, because I assume you mean you are voting Republican? That you are voting for a party you believe in and what that party represents? That you believe in the basic beliefs and policies of that party no matter what the preferred candidate may or may not have said or who they may be. Well both really. I jive more with the Republican beliefs and policies. However, as much as I will agree that Trump leaves a lot to be desired, when it comes down to the things that I feel are important, he is the one that I think can and will get the job done. I said 4 years ago that Trump would run and that he'd have the balls to do what other politicians , on both sides of the aisle, haven't been able or weren't willing to do. I have already stated my reasons why on a previous thread. SaveYou handled your response much more diplomatically than I would've. I applaud you. You owe NO ONE HERE any explanation or defense of your vote. So sick and tired of the left and the constant bashing of Trump while overlooking Clinton's absolute equal level of contempt of her own actions. So tired of reading all the lectures on how horrible Trump is coming from those on the left. And folks...this is why many who actually support Trump are silent.
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Post by gar on Oct 23, 2016 20:48:46 GMT
Well both really. I jive more with the Republican beliefs and policies. However, as much as I will agree that Trump leaves a lot to be desired, when it comes down to the things that I feel are important, he is the one that I think can and will get the job done. I said 4 years ago that Trump would run and that he'd have the balls to do what other politicians , on both sides of the aisle, haven't been able or weren't willing to do. I have already stated my reasons why on a previous thread. SaveYou handled your response much more diplomatically than I would've. I applaud you. You owe NO ONE HERE any explanation or defense of your vote. So sick and tired of the left and the constant bashing of Trump while overlooking Clinton's absolute equal level of contempt of her own actions. So tired of reading all the lectures on how horrible Trump is coming from those on the left. And folks...this is why many who actually support Trump are silent. Speaking as an observer, I think a lot of this comes from sheer disbelief that this man is actually in this position. Hillary is a politician, and although intensely disliked by some is a well known player in the field whereas he isn't/wasn't. I think it's this disbelief that leads people to wonder how some can look past him and vote for the party they align with. It doesn't excuse foul language, I agree, but I do think that's what behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 20:56:42 GMT
You handled your response much more diplomatically than I would've. I applaud you. You owe NO ONE HERE any explanation or defense of your vote. So sick and tired of the left and the constant bashing of Trump while overlooking Clinton's absolute equal level of contempt of her own actions. So tired of reading all the lectures on how horrible Trump is coming from those on the left. And folks...this is why many who actually support Trump are silent. Speaking as an observer, I think a lot of this comes from sheer disbelief that this man is actually in this position. Hillary is a politician, and although intensely disliked by some is a well known player in the field whereas he isn't/wasn't. I think it's this disbelief that leads people to wonder how some can look past him and vote for the party they align with. It doesn't excuse foul language, I agree, but I do think that's what behind it. And again I will state that the EXACT SAME THING can be said regarding Hillary. America loses.
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Post by Sam on Oct 23, 2016 21:11:36 GMT
Well both really. I jive more with the Republican beliefs and policies. However, as much as I will agree that Trump leaves a lot to be desired, when it comes down to the things that I feel are important, he is the one that I think can and will get the job done. I said 4 years ago that Trump would run and that he'd have the balls to do what other politicians , on both sides of the aisle, haven't been able or weren't willing to do. I have already stated my reasons why on a previous thread. SaveYou handled your response much more diplomatically than I would've. I applaud you. You owe NO ONE HERE any explanation or defence of your vote. So sick and tired of the left and the constant bashing of Trump while overlooking Clinton's absolute equal level of contempt of her own actions. So tired of reading all the lectures on how horrible Trump is coming from those on the left. And folks...this is why many who actually support Trump are silent. I stated that I assumed the poster voted for Trump because she is allied to the Republican party (and therefore believes in their platform). There was nothing in my post that you had to feel you needed to applaud the person I was responding to one way or another and nothing I stated that was anything other than a comment. I gave no opinion on either Trump or the party he represents.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 21:50:56 GMT
You handled your response much more diplomatically than I would've. I applaud you. You owe NO ONE HERE any explanation or defence of your vote. So sick and tired of the left and the constant bashing of Trump while overlooking Clinton's absolute equal level of contempt of her own actions. So tired of reading all the lectures on how horrible Trump is coming from those on the left. And folks...this is why many who actually support Trump are silent. I stated that I assumed the poster voted for Trump because she is allied to the Republican party (and therefore believes in their platform). There was nothing in my post that you had to feel you needed to applaud the person I was responding to one way or another and nothing I stated that was anything other than a comment. I gave no opinion on either Trump or the party he represents. Go back and read your additional commentary. Because there was more...enough so that someone felt they needed to explain or defend their vote to you.
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Post by Merge on Oct 23, 2016 22:38:44 GMT
Speaking as an observer, I think a lot of this comes from sheer disbelief that this man is actually in this position. Hillary is a politician, and although intensely disliked by some is a well known player in the field whereas he isn't/wasn't. I think it's this disbelief that leads people to wonder how some can look past him and vote for the party they align with. It doesn't excuse foul language, I agree, but I do think that's what behind it. And again I will state that the EXACT SAME THING can be said regarding Hillary. America loses. And frankly I'm tired of hearing this. From my perspective, I've now heard 30 years of negativity directed against Hillary Clinton. I've done my research and have found that much of it is being parroted by people who have no idea what they're talking about but are just repeating the same tired old tropes. I'm excited to vote for her and think she will do well. I think that no matter whether you like her personally or not, she is a thousand times better qualified by experience and temperament than Trump is. So I'm tired of hearing that I should admit that my candidate sucks just because you admit that yours does. I don't think that's true.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 23:21:49 GMT
My ballot is sitting on the table already to mail in the morning. First thing I did was put my mark next Clinton/Kaine. And I did it with no misgivings what so ever. I knew from the very beginning she was the most qualified of all candidates on both sides so she was going to get my vote. But I didn't care for her much. But thanks to the Hillary Haters on this board I spent time checking out their grievances against Hillary. The more I dug the more I found I liked her. And in spite of the dumb things she has done. So thanks Hillary Haters!
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Oct 23, 2016 23:34:03 GMT
Well both really. I jive more with the Republican beliefs and policies. However, as much as I will agree that Trump leaves a lot to be desired, when it comes down to the things that I feel are important, he is the one that I think can and will get the job done. I said 4 years ago that Trump would run and that he'd have the balls to do what other politicians , on both sides of the aisle, haven't been able or weren't willing to do. I have already stated my reasons why on a previous thread. SaveYou handled your response much more diplomatically than I would've. I applaud you. You owe NO ONE HERE any explanation or defense of your vote. So sick and tired of the left and the constant bashing of Trump while overlooking Clinton's absolute equal level of contempt of her own actions. So tired of reading all the lectures on how horrible Trump is coming from those on the left. And folks...this is why many who actually support Trump are silent. Thank you. Save
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Post by Sarah*H on Oct 24, 2016 0:13:44 GMT
A thousand times this. I was an ambivalent Hillary voter at best (I voted for Bernie in the primaries.) But to better understand the grievances, I immersed myself in learning/watching as much about both candidates as I could and to my surprise, I discovered that HRC is pretty damn amazing. I think she's going to be a great President. Now if her husband was running again, that would be a whole different conversation and my vote would go to someone else.
I live in an area which is staunchly Trump. It makes me laugh when I read the posts chastising liberals about the tone of discourse on this board. And really, how hard can it to be defend why you're willing to overlook all of the ugliness related to that man in order to vote for your chosen party? In this case I don't get the whiny defensiveness at all because he's put it all out there front and center, loudly and proudly. But what do I know, being nothing but a nasty woman?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 24, 2016 0:29:52 GMT
And again I will state that the EXACT SAME THING can be said regarding Hillary. America loses. And frankly I'm tired of hearing this. From my perspective, I've now heard 30 years of negativity directed against Hillary Clinton. I've done my research and have found that much of it is being parroted by people who have no idea what they're talking about but are just repeating the same tired old tropes. I'm excited to vote for her and think she will do well. I think that no matter whether you like her personally or not, she is a thousand times better qualified by experience and temperament than Trump is. So I'm tired of hearing that I should admit that my candidate sucks just because you admit that yours does. I don't think that's true. It's getting to be really funny with some of the same peas who INSIST that the liberals or Hillary supporters are so awful and suppress them from speaking (posting). Bullshit.
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