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Post by Merge on Nov 6, 2016 2:59:35 GMT
Yes, I realize all the British peas are likely fast asleep, but maybe they'll see this when they wake up. Why do the English give a word of Latin origin - Regina - an anglicized pronunciation? Particularly when it's so awkward sounding? All through this show I keep thinking for a split second that they've said "Elizabeth Vagina" because that's what it sounds like. Regeeeenah would be so much nicer. And that's how we pronounce it when we sing in Latin. I think you all should suggest it to the royal family.  |
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Post by jumperhop on Nov 6, 2016 3:29:53 GMT
Haha, this is near and dear to my heart as I just sang, Boito "Salve Regina" from Mefistofel for the local chamber choir. I have never been so happy to be done with a piece. Bring on Christmas music!
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Post by myshelly on Nov 6, 2016 3:33:43 GMT
Yes, it definitely sounds like vagina every time they say it.
I'm only watching the show for Matt Smith, personally.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 6, 2016 3:54:21 GMT
I was listening to a girl on the radio go on and on about people mispronouncing her name, which was Regina. I had to laugh because any Canadian would automatically say it to rhyme with vagina as the capital city of Saskatchewan is pronounced. It was only fairly recently that I realized some people pronounce it "Regeena".
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Post by seikashaven on Nov 6, 2016 4:10:55 GMT
It's definitely supposed to rhyme with vagina. Us Canadians are totally used to it lol.
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Post by anniefb on Nov 6, 2016 4:22:33 GMT
I was listening to a girl on the radio go on and on about people mispronouncing her name, which was Regina. I had to laugh because any Canadian would automatically say it to rhyme with vagina as the capital city of Saskatchewan is pronounced. It was only fairly recently that I realized some people pronounce it "Regeena". In New Zealand it's ruh-JY-nuh as well. I don't think I've heard "Regeena". SaveSave |
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 6, 2016 4:27:19 GMT
It's my aunt's first name. It is Reh-JEEN-ah but we just call her Gina. It is also repeated in their family at least 5x.
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Post by craftykitten on Nov 6, 2016 8:29:58 GMT
english pronunciation is crazy. linkIf it's a name I say reg-eena. If it's Latin i would say reg-eye-na. |
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Post by Jockscrap on Nov 6, 2016 8:54:53 GMT
Never heard anyone have it as a name, and only ever heard it pronounced to rhyme with vagina.
I'm two episodes in and I think it is fab. QE2 has changed the way she speaks pretty drastically over the years. In the early days, she sounded like a cat was being strangled in her throat, and I think the actress is going some way, but not far enough, to mimic that. It was a strange, strange way of speaking. Over the last few decades, she has sounded much less weird - I think there must have been some voice coaching to help her sound a little bit more normal. I can't wait to see more of Margaret's adventures.
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Post by melanell on Nov 6, 2016 9:11:22 GMT
Regina's a pretty common name around here, and every single Regina I have ever met pronounced it regeena. And many of them use Gina (geena) as a nickname for it.  (I'm come across a few who went by Gia or Gigi also, but again, the nicknames were always based off of that "jee" pronunciation.) SaveSave |
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Post by M in Carolina on Nov 6, 2016 9:24:44 GMT
I admit I snickered too when they pronounced it Reg-EYE-na. I recently heard a joke about Regina, Saskatchewan. I've already watched the whole season and will watch it again. Matt Smith is great, but personally, John Lithgow is the best as Winston Churchill. I love that they filmed parts of the episodes at Chartwell. I wish that they had made his bedroom like the real one in Chartwell--but it would make your eyes bleed--it's covered in ivy wallpaper--even on the ceiling. The gardens and pond were gorgeous. When I went to France with my French teacher and mom when I was in college, we spent a few days in England. I wanted to see Stonehenge and London. My mom loves gardens, so my French teacher found us a private travel guide who took us on a day trip around Kent--I love painting and history, so going to Chartwell was fantastic--I LOVE Churchill. We also went to Penshurst because of the gardens. For Stonehenge, we took a tour bus that went to Salisbury Cathedral, Stonehenge, and then Bath. Amazing. The tour was horrible. Horrible food at a "pub"--tinned clams on pasta and water if you didn't want the wine. The tour guide considered himself a comedian and wouldn't.shut.up. Even though we were literally telling him to SHUT UP. We went in '97--before they closed off Stonehenge, so we got to walk around it. Bath was gorgeous--the Roman Baths were amazing, and we got a chance to just walk by the river and shop. Then we took the Eurostar to Paris--my French teacher wanted to go through the newly opened Chunnel just as much as I did. I had her her last year as a teacher. She has a travel agency specializing in France--she spent a few years in Switzerland and then as a missionary in Chad as a teen. So she volunteered to be our personal guide as a fact finding trip. So much fun. |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Nov 6, 2016 10:08:32 GMT
All depends on they type of Latin it is based on according to my beloved. Classic or Vulgar, and there are subdivisions of these too evidently including Ecclesiastical and Jesuitical.
That's all I know. He went on about pronouncing Cicero as Kikero.
I lost the will to live at that point.
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 6, 2016 10:51:27 GMT
In New Zealand it's ruh-JY-nuh as well. I don't think I've heard "Regeena". SaveSaveThat's interesting, I assumed that Australia and NZ would be the same. I only know one person with that name IRL, and it is pronounced Regeena. Gina / Regina. |
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Post by gar on Nov 6, 2016 11:17:00 GMT
I honestly don't know and actually hadn't ever thought about it!  Hopefully a better educated British Pea will help you out. I have a friend called Regina (Re jeen er) who goes by Gina. |
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Post by jennyap on Nov 6, 2016 11:58:51 GMT
english pronunciation is crazy. linkYes, yes it is  www.i18nguy.com/chaos.htmlWhy? Just the way we learnt it. There are probably lots of words in English that are adopted from other languages but that we pronounce differently - like homage or terrain. Most of us didn't learn Latin per se (  ) so wouldn't know the 'correct' pronunciation. And in any case, vagina is also of Latin origin, so surely that should be va-jee-na too  |
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Post by Merge on Nov 6, 2016 12:11:10 GMT
english pronunciation is crazy. linkYes, yes it is www.i18nguy.com/chaos.htmlWhy? Just the way we learnt it. There are probably lots of words in English that are adopted from other languages but that we pronounce differently - like homage or terrain. Most of us didn't learn Latin per se ( ) so wouldn't know the 'correct' pronunciation. And in any case, vagina is also of Latin origin, so surely that should be va-jee-na too Hahahahah. Fair point! |
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Post by sawwhet on Nov 6, 2016 12:33:48 GMT
Canadian here. I always thought that anything related to the Queen was pronounced RE JYE NA as in the city. The girl's name was Re GEE Na. REGINA |
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Post by gillyp on Nov 6, 2016 13:27:25 GMT
Canadian here. I always thought that anything related to the Queen was pronounced RE JYE NA as in the city. The girl's name was Re GEE Na. REGINA I did Latin at school and regEYEna is the way to go. anniebygaslight Kikero is starting to ring bells with me. I'll go and sit in a quiet corner until they stop. |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 6, 2016 16:32:32 GMT
I admit I snickered too when they pronounced it Reg-EYE-na. I recently heard a joke about Regina, Saskatchewan. I've already watched the whole season and will watch it again. Matt Smith is great, but personally, John Lithgow is the best as Winston Churchill. I love that they filmed parts of the episodes at Chartwell. I wish that they had made his bedroom like the real one in Chartwell--but it would make your eyes bleed--it's covered in ivy wallpaper--even on the ceiling. The gardens and pond were gorgeous. When I went to France with my French teacher and mom when I was in college, we spent a few days in England. I wanted to see Stonehenge and London. My mom loves gardens, so my French teacher found us a private travel guide who took us on a day trip around Kent--I love painting and history, so going to Chartwell was fantastic--I LOVE Churchill. We also went to Penshurst because of the gardens. For Stonehenge, we took a tour bus that went to Salisbury Cathedral, Stonehenge, and then Bath. Amazing. The tour was horrible. Horrible food at a "pub"--tinned clams on pasta and water if you didn't want the wine. The tour guide considered himself a comedian and wouldn't.shut.up. Even though we were literally telling him to SHUT UP. We went in '97--before they closed off Stonehenge, so we got to walk around it. Bath was gorgeous--the Roman Baths were amazing, and we got a chance to just walk by the river and shop. Then we took the Eurostar to Paris--my French teacher wanted to go through the newly opened Chunnel just as much as I did. I had her her last year as a teacher. She has a travel agency specializing in France--she spent a few years in Switzerland and then as a missionary in Chad as a teen. So she volunteered to be our personal guide as a fact finding trip. So much fun. I lived near Chartwell and Penshurst when I lived in England. My favorite was the less known Ightham Mote! I also loved Sissinghurst and Leed's Castle. We had a National Trust Membership so you did not have to pay at most of the historical homes and gardens. I miss that. (sigh) |
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Post by fredfreddy on Nov 6, 2016 16:37:36 GMT
Matt Smith is pretty hot. I'm taking my time. I just finished episode 4. I like it so far. But how much is made up - like did Margaret really stand behind the curtains and did her BIL find her purse there and comment on it?
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Post by hop2 on Nov 6, 2016 21:13:04 GMT
I honestly don't know and actually hadn't ever thought about it! Hopefully a better educated British Pea will help you out. I have a friend called Regina (Re jeen er) who goes by Gina. Regina (Re jeen er) lol, With the 'er' on the end it sounds like an old Jersey City/Hoboken accent. |
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 6, 2016 21:38:06 GMT
I honestly don't know and actually hadn't ever thought about it! Hopefully a better educated British Pea will help you out. I have a friend called Regina (Re jeen er) who goes by Gina. This made me LOL gar. My very English dad always pronounces names ending in "a" as "er" and I'll admit it drove me nuts as a kid with friends like Brenda, Linda and Donna (or Brender, Linder and Donner). Is it regional? My Scottish mom never used "er". SaveSave |
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Post by Mr styler on Nov 6, 2016 22:03:21 GMT
Why do you all have such a problem with word vagina?
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Post by Sam on Nov 6, 2016 22:09:33 GMT
I honestly don't know and actually hadn't ever thought about it! Hopefully a better educated British Pea will help you out. I have a friend called Regina (Re jeen er) who goes by Gina. This made me LOL gar . My very English dad always pronounces names ending in "a" as "er" and I'll admit it drove me nuts as a kid with friends like Brenda, Linda and Donna (or Brender, Linder and Donner). Is it regional? My Scottish mom never used "er". SaveSaveThat's so like people in Leicester - only, the take an '-er' at the end of the word and make it sound like '-ar'.....so, they live in LeicestAAR' and have 'dinnaar' - lovely people, but it used to drive me mad when I worked there!! |
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Post by Sam on Nov 6, 2016 22:13:12 GMT
Why do you all have such a problem with word vagina? Who said they had a problem with the word vagina? Used in the right context, it's a great word. Looking or hearing one word and constantly hearing or seeing it as vagina is a little different and, let's face it, I think most on here are having a bit of a laugh at how it (Regina/vagina) sounds. |
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Post by myshelly on Nov 6, 2016 22:15:33 GMT
Why do you all have such a problem with word vagina? I don't have a problem with that word. I just think Elizabeth Vagina is a very silly name. |
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 6, 2016 22:24:10 GMT
Why do you all have such a problem with word vagina? I don't have a problem with that word. I just think Elizabeth Vagina is a very silly name. It's Elizabeth Vagina?  I thought it was Elizabeth Regina? Re-geye-na sounds 100x better than Vagina  |
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Post by myshelly on Nov 6, 2016 22:31:47 GMT
I don't have a problem with that word. I just think Elizabeth Vagina is a very silly name. It's Elizabeth Vagina? I thought it was Elizabeth Regina? Re-geye-na sounds 100x better than Vagina It is Regina, but the whole point of this thread is that every time they say it on the show it sounds indistinguishable from vagina. |
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Post by leannec on Nov 6, 2016 22:40:42 GMT
It's definitely supposed to rhyme with vagina. Us Canadians are totally used to it lol. Yup ... Regina has a minor league hockey team called the Regina Pats ... we have our own team here in Calgary (the Hitmen) and love to call the Regina team the "Vagina Paps" Teenage hockey humour |
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Post by gar on Nov 6, 2016 22:55:28 GMT
I honestly don't know and actually hadn't ever thought about it! Hopefully a better educated British Pea will help you out. I have a friend called Regina (Re jeen er) who goes by Gina. This made me LOL gar. My very English dad always pronounces names ending in "a" as "er" and I'll admit it drove me nuts as a kid with friends like Brenda, Linda and Donna (or Brender, Linder and Donner). Is it regional? My Scottish mom never used "er". SaveSaveIt's ni quite 'er' but maybe more than 'uh'....so hard to explain!! |
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Hopefully a better educated British Pea will help you out. I have a friend called Regina (Re jeen er) who goes by Gina.
I did Latin at school and regEYEna is the way to go. 
I thought it was Elizabeth Regina?
