scrappinspidey2
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Nov 6, 2016 19:31:06 GMT
So in my former life, we had an inground hot tub attached to our pool. We used it multiple times a week, even in the hot desert summers. Since our accident I have shoulder and knee issues and we won't even get into the stress department. Now that I have finally landed somewhere where I will remain for at least 5 years or so, I'm thinking about a hot tub. I want to start researching and looking into them but I don't even know where to start, what questions to ask etc. i have time as I should be working by summer and I won't feel rushed into a decision if I start now. I'm worried that it will start out as a simple hot tub venture and end up into an entire redo of the back portion of the house what are things i should ask? Look for? Consider? Anyone have experience with the "plug n play" options I'm seeing?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 20:18:04 GMT
One of my husband's friends has the Coleman soft sided plug in one. They love it and is is very inexpensive. They are very short and he is tiny so they fit in it and are comfortable.
I personally would rather join a club, where all the maintenance is done for me.
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Post by sunraynnc on Nov 7, 2016 0:14:21 GMT
Jacuzzi all the way!
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Nov 7, 2016 0:43:37 GMT
The above ground ones can be moved if you ever want to downsize, etc. They also have covers which will help keep it clean and use less energy to heat them. Dh and I have been discussing buying a house in the next year or two. (we don't have to move to Boston, and we like being closer to family.) We love to swim, and I've always wanted one of those little lap pools. The local swim places either don't have extended hours so dh and I could go after he gets off work, or the gym is 30 minutes away. I saw this cool pool/jacuzzi today on Pinterest. Michael Phelps Swim Spa A lot of the townhouses/small homes in our area have backyard decks or patios that would be the perfect space to put one of these in. Since we don't have kids, a grassy backyard isn't important, and it's hard to keep up a lawn with all the pine trees in our area. One of the houses that we rented in Chicago had a glassed in sunporch. It was wonderful, although a glass ceiling sunporch would be way too hot down here. But a covered screened in porch would let us enjoy the space almost year round. In Chicago and Michigan, there were a lot of people who did use their jacuzzis year round. We've also seen lots of ski houses overlooking the slopes that had huge hot tubs. My idea of heaven. I grew up at the beach, and our neighbor had a pool. It was a lot of maintenance. Three of my dad's resort developments had pools as well. There was a lot of upkeep, and personally, not many hot tubs included with in ground pools are really that comfortable. The above ground type have more jets and are molded so you can recline more comfortably. We rented a little bungalow in Chicago that had been renovated with a modern master suite with a HUGE jacuzzi tub. We loved it. Dh is 6'4", and I'm 5'7", and it was large enough for both of us to fit comfortably without always having to sit on top of each other. The only reason we didn't use it all the time was that it took so much water to fill it.
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Grom Pea
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Post by Grom Pea on Nov 7, 2016 3:44:38 GMT
You need more seats than you expect to have people, e.g. If you want 4 people in it, you need 6 seats or everyone is uncomfortably crammed together. I loved having a hot tub pre kids, I still enjoy it when wet do use it but we have less time to maintain it so dh drained it and hopefully we'll have more time again soon, but I'm not keeping my hopes up. When we did use it I always said I never was looking for a house with one, but I was really glad one came with the house. So relaxing!
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Post by putabuttononit on Nov 7, 2016 10:32:42 GMT
I love our outside hot tub,but of course it's cold here. I use it often, it's amazing to lounge and relax while watching the northern lights. We probably use it an average of three days a week. The upkeep can be a pain but its not that hard. We drain it and clean it every few months, which keeps the water clean and clear.
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Post by scrappintoee on Nov 7, 2016 10:51:45 GMT
I don't know if this is possible, but I would DEFINITELY want to test the jets before I purchased one! Our friends have a GORGEOUS in-ground pool and jacuzzi; however, the jets are SO ineffectual !!! (I would NEVER say anything of course!) But wow---it's VERY disappointing when you're looking forward to a nice massage! The extreme hot water IS lovely, though!
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blue tulip
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Post by blue tulip on Nov 7, 2016 13:41:36 GMT
we have owned 4 hot tubs now.. we buy them used, and I keep upgrading as I spy a better one for sale lol. we love ours, I don't think we'll ever be without one again. it's like having a hot bath, but you are fully immersed and the water never gets cold. you can buy hot tub safe oils and scents and things too that really make it relaxing. here are some things we have learned:
regardless if you are buying new or used, check that the cover is in good condition and not super super heavy. Extreme heaviness is a sign of being waterlogged. New covers with upgraded foam run about $320 incl. shipping for the hot tubs we've owned- the one we bought a cover for was a big one, too! if you're every going to use the tub alone, think about getting a cover lift to help you. make sure the cover has strap latches so it doesn't blow off.
also open up the utility panel and check the insulation- you want it to be thick and generously coated. this and a good cover will keep your costs way down. while you're in there, check out the appearance of the pump and electrical. there shouldn't be dripping water or wet spots, look for corrosion.
always check out one that is running, unless you are buying certified from a store. walk around the base and look for damp spots or signs that the area is always moist. you don't want to deal with any leaks, no matter how small the seller tells you they are. it is damn near impossible to chase down a leak in an insulated tub. often where the leak appears is well away from the actual problem, due to the way the water can snake around as it makes its way out. we prefer the plastic or metal sided tubs over wood ones, which require more maintenance.
hot tubs are actually quite easy to move with 2-3 people and 2x4s as "skids". you place the 2x4s on the ground, one about 6-12" inside the edges of the tub. place your next 2x4s inside or outside these, next to the initial 2x4s and overlapping next to them by at least a foot. then you just push the tub across the boards, it should slide pretty easily considering the weight. when you're on to the 2nd set of skids, move the first around to the front and continue. we've found that 6 boards work best, to give you 3 lengths to work with and so you don't have to be stopping every 5'. we always have our boys run and move the boards for us while we're going, they think it's fun. you might have the step near the front of the next set of boards to make sure they pass under the tub, if you're on a soft or sinky surface. we use all 6 boards together if a ramp is needed to get the tub up/down from a deck or trailer.
maintenance is pretty simple, it's like a tiny pool. you check the chemicals and make small additions to balance PH. it's not rocket science, you can totally handle it.
when we bought our first one, I read a ton of things online about "how to buy a used hot tub" and that served me very well. we've had a 110 plug-in tub, the largest size in that hookup, and liked it. but we've also run our own 220 (DH knows electrical) and those have been fine as well. I didn't notice any significant difference in running costs between the 2. I can't stress enough tho- buy one that you can see running and at temperature, unless it is a certified used one or something. if the seller refuses to do this for you, there is probably a reason why. if you go look at it and it's 70 degrees because he just turned it on, come back when it's 102.
good luck on your hot tub adventure!
ETA: placement. if it's not in the budget for a concrete slab, you could build a deck platform (place joists on 10-12" centers to make sure they support the weight properly). we also had a pea gravel/small stone base for one tub where a deck wouldn't work. that was really cheap and actually worked excellent- it was kinda self leveling, the pit was about 6" deep I believe? edged with 2x6s to keep gravel contained. landscaped around it and it looked awesome. if you didn't want to see the gravel, you could integrate a step by building an elevated deck around the tub that would also act as a step.
oh, and if your tub is completely exposed to the wind, you might want to think about installing a single fence or lattice panel to provide some windbreak. we're in MI, and when it's really cold and windy the steam rising from the tub gets super cold and blown in your face. not so fun lol. that's why we have tucked our tubs next to a taller deck, or a pool, or in the lee of the house when possible.
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Post by mom on Nov 7, 2016 14:46:50 GMT
We have a hot tub and love it. We use it year around - but we absoultey love using it when its cold outside or even snowing!
Maintenance is easy. You use a PH tester kit and then add whatever chemical it tells you that it needs. Since I use ours a bunch, I am able to tell what chemicals it needs by the way the water feels.
For changing the water, we have a company that comes and does it for us every so often.
Our original lid was good - but we ended up upgrading our lid to one that has these bracket things that make it so easy to lift. One person could do it easily.
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scrappinspidey2
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Nov 7, 2016 16:33:44 GMT
Thank you so much!!! I really enjoy listening to everyones experiences and blue tulip I may just have to borrow your brain for a few weeks There is a warehouse here that is highly rated that works with the used ones, but I feel like I don't know enough about this particular thing to make good decisions We did stop by a place yesterday while running around. The sales guy was a fountain of information. Probably one of the most informative sales persons I have ever come across. He showed us the top of the line down to the bottom without pressuring us into any particular one. One of them looked like a video game with flashy lights, dark color etc. My skeptic child was sold lol, however not what Im looking for They offer "wet tests" at this store as well. He kept trying to get me to climb in one that was dry lol. He gave me all the schematics etc for a few of the ones I was leaning towards so that I could give those to the electrician and deck people, which I thought was nice. We will be looking at a few other places too just to see what else is available. My main problems seem to be placement and electrical. Here the hot tub people are not allowed to hook it up to electrical so I will need to talk to an electrician both for the wiring to the spot where it will be located, and the initial hookup once delivered and set in place. The biggest problem is placement. We aren't sure if my deck will hold and I don't know how to get it inspected to make sure. The deck would be the best place to put it, but I do not have the time or the funds to redo the deck. Its weathered for sure and could use a touch up in that area. The railings will have to come off to put the tub on but that isn't a big loss to me because eventually I want to replace them. I do not have small children so Im not worried about having railings.
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blue tulip
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Post by blue tulip on Nov 7, 2016 20:06:55 GMT
sounds like a great place! to check out your deck, see if you can find your county's building codes and search for hot tub. sometimes there will be a section on how close together the joists must be. if yours aren't that close, you might be able to sister or add some in to the existing structure, strengthening it without needing to completely redo. if you can't get info there, try Lowe's or Home Depot's building department. when DH worked at Lowes they had software that would tell you the build recommendations for a hot tub platform/deck. another idea... if it's going in the corner of the deck, could you remove that corner, finish off with 2x10s, and set the hot tub on improved ground? If we are talking a ground or lower level deck, then you've taken away some of the need for steps and it can look custom built.
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Post by melodyesch on Nov 7, 2016 20:12:04 GMT
we've had a 110 plug-in tub, the largest size in that hookup, and liked it. but we've also run our own 220 (DH knows electrical) and those have been fine as well. I didn't notice any significant difference in running costs between the 2. I can't stress enough tho- buy one that you can see running and at temperature, unless it is a certified used one or something. if the seller refuses to do this for you, there is probably a reason why. if you go look at it and it's 70 degrees because he just turned it on, come back when it's 102.
Blue Tulip, To piggy back onto this post, I had heard that a 110 tub wouldn't get as hot as a 220. Has that been your experience? We have a perfect concrete pad with 110 conveniently located. It would cost us a ton to run 220 there so we've been putting off getting a hot tub. But man, if a 110 can work as well we would consider it in a heartbeat!
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blue tulip
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Post by blue tulip on Nov 8, 2016 13:25:12 GMT
Blue Tulip, To piggy back onto this post, I had heard that a 110 tub wouldn't get as hot as a 220. Has that been your experience? We have a perfect concrete pad with 110 conveniently located. It would cost us a ton to run 220 there so we've been putting off getting a hot tub. But man, if a 110 can work as well we would consider it in a heartbeat! that's total BS. ours definitely got as hot, we run all ours between 102 and 104 in the cold months. tho the motor/blower's actual power may be less than a 220 tub, it's still in line with the size and needs of the tub. so it won't feel underpowered, it will be just as hot and bubbly. we had the largest tub that could still run on 110, and it felt in every way just as good as the subsequent 220 ones we've had. the only reason we switched was because we were selling our house, didn't have another house lined up yet so we couldn't take the tub with us. and then the hot tubs I found for good deals later just happened to be 220 tubs.
hope that helps!
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