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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Nov 11, 2016 21:45:54 GMT
Curious about whether my expectations are off. 8th grade DD told me earlier in the week that her English teacher (the only teacher she has every day) is moving, and her last day was yesterday. They'll have a sub until Christmas, presumably to give the school time to hire.
Would you expect any communication from the school about this? I was expecting an email or note from the administration outlining a plan, letting us know who the sub will be, how the sub will communication with us (most teachers tell you during meet the teacher night which of several various platforms they use), etc. So far, there has been radio silence though. I'll probably drop the principal a quick email, but I am curious about whether there would normally be communication about a teacher leaving mid-year other places.
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 11, 2016 21:50:07 GMT
I don't know. I can tell you that my Freshman ds has had a long term sub for about 6 weeks (they've only been in school about 10 weeks) and there was no communication (aside from him telling me). She wasn't pregnant, but it is/was a medical thing. I think she comes back Monday. So no notice certainly isn't unique to your school.
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 11, 2016 21:51:28 GMT
Ideally I would like communication, but my experience has been that I do not get that kind of communication past elementary school.
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Post by scraphollie27 on Nov 11, 2016 21:52:51 GMT
In Grade 8, I wouldn't expect to be notified by the teacher or the school. In primary school where my child only had the one teacher, I would expect some kind of communication.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 21:53:25 GMT
Ideally I would like communication, but my experience has been that I do not get that kind of communication past elementary school. I agree. In Elementary school I would expect a note being sent home from either the teacher or the Principal. In middle school or especially high school. Nope. I probably would not blink at the news.
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Post by smartypants71 on Nov 11, 2016 21:54:22 GMT
the only expectation I'd have for an 8th grader is for that 8th grader to tell me.
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Post by paigepea on Nov 11, 2016 21:54:51 GMT
I think I'm high school they stop informing about such things. You'll only hear if there is a big problem with something.
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Post by stampinbetsy on Nov 11, 2016 21:57:20 GMT
I don't know. I can tell you that my Freshman ds has had a long term sub for about 6 weeks (they've only been in school about 10 weeks) and there was no communication (aside from him telling me). She wasn't pregnant, but it is/was a medical thing. I think she comes back Monday. So no notice certainly isn't unique to your school. This is kind of what happened with DS's English teacher this year. She also happened to be his case manager, and I was surprised to hear from last year's case manager right before his ARD meeting that she was taking over. I asked DS about it, and he confirmed that his teacher had been out. No communication at all about it.
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 11, 2016 22:08:05 GMT
Dd (grade 6) had a teacher last year that was out on maternity leave for the first two months when the school year started, came back to school for a week, then sent home the most unprofessional letter I've ever seen explaining why she was moving away but her replacement would not be hired until 2nd semester. They then had 3 different long term subs, grades/assignments/tests went missing with each turnover, and not one time did the school send home any communication about it.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 11, 2016 22:46:43 GMT
That seems pretty abrupt, but maybe the teacher didn't give the school much notice?
My elementary aged kid has two teachers that job share 3 days and 2 days every week. The 3 day a week teacher is having a baby in December (which we parents were told before the beginning of the school year) with planned leave from the day after winter break until spring and the parents were understandably a little concerned with what would happen.
To both teacher's credit, they were very good about keeping the parents in the loop and letting us know as soon as they could what the situation would be, and thankfully the two day a week teacher will be working full time in the classroom while the other is on leave.
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Post by mom on Nov 11, 2016 22:54:11 GMT
I wouldn't expect any communication other than my kid telling me about it. If she were in Elementary school - then yes, I would want to know. 8th grade? Nah.
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Post by msbtastic on Nov 11, 2016 23:05:49 GMT
That is not standard procedure in any school that I know about. Until you posted this and made me reflect on it as a parent and not a teacher, I would not have thought that is was a big deal. There are a variety of reasons you may not have been alerted: not knowing who the sub is, not knowing if the sub is good enough to stay, last minute changes that the school was not aware of, and time constraints. When a sub comes in for a long period, the rest of her department has to take up the slack and assist in grading, planning, and sometimes outright teaching. Substitutes are often not teachers, and if they are/were, they don't get paid enough to do all of that extra non-school hour work. They also may not have a licence in the field they are subbing for. Anyhow, it often ends up a big mess on the school's side and we don't even think if it.
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Post by Merge on Nov 11, 2016 23:17:30 GMT
My guess would be that they don't have a long-term sub yet (these can be very difficult to find) and that the plan is to rely on the other members of the department to supply a rotating cast of subs with adequate lesson plans. At least, that's what happened when my oldest daughter's 7th grade science teacher quit about this time of year, three years ago. I also don't remember receiving any notification from the school - DD came home one day and told us that her science teacher was leaving and that was that.
Her 8th grade history teacher also just stopped showing up to school mid-April. Fun times.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 11, 2016 23:40:39 GMT
8th grade? No, your child is old enough to tell you.
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Post by *leslie* on Nov 11, 2016 23:56:34 GMT
I've never received any kind of communication from elementary school through high school when a teacher is going on short leave or leaving permanently. Only exception is maternity leave and that's only because I already knew they were pregnant.
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Post by kels99 on Nov 12, 2016 0:23:17 GMT
Nope, I've only heard from my kids when a teacher leaves/returns. I'm not sure what the school is allowed to say about HR issues anyway.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Nov 12, 2016 0:27:44 GMT
No.
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Post by destined2bmom on Nov 12, 2016 0:35:12 GMT
No. Unfortunately once they are in middle school, you usually hear it from your child. We heard about his math teacher going out on maternity and the number of subs from him.
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Post by utmr on Nov 12, 2016 1:00:59 GMT
No, there won't be any notice. What good would it do anyway?
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Post by Linda on Nov 12, 2016 2:54:00 GMT
we've had LOTS of turnover of teachers.
The only one I got any communication from the school was last year when the 3rd grade teacher was Mrs. T up until February long weekend and when the kids returned to school afterwards, Mrs. L. was now the teacher - the principal went in and helped transition the class and parents got a letter home that afternoon. That was also the only elementary school transition.
Middle school - DD had two teachers retire mid-year - one was replaced, the other had long-term subs until the end of the year. Her science teacher switched schools - he was replaced after about a month. She had 3 Algebra teachers - and a longterm sub twice (and no wonder she struggled with algebra)
In 10th grade, DS had TWO Algebra 2 teachers quit - there were subs between them and then a long-term sub finished up the year.
In 10th grade, DD went through THREE English teachers - one quit to take another position, one quit to take care of her husband, one managed to finish out the year but there were various subs in between.
No communication from the school in regards to any of these - although the final English teacher in 10th grade did send home a note with the students introducing herself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 3:04:17 GMT
I would not have expected to hear that in middle school.
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Post by maryland on Nov 12, 2016 3:43:19 GMT
Ours isn't that great with communication! They started a no paper policy a few years ago, so no report cards or letters sent home. Last winter my daughter's 7th grade homeroom/math teacher was arrested and we saw it on the news first. Nothing was spoken about it in school or sent home.
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Post by smcast on Nov 12, 2016 3:50:43 GMT
We haven't had communication about this issue in the past except an introduction at parent/teacher conferences. Last year my dd was in 7th grade and her language arts teacher (formerly know as English teacher) moved and had introduced us to the replacement as she was training her in.
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Post by melanell on Nov 12, 2016 4:11:17 GMT
The way it works here is that in elementary school, they kill one tree per kid per day telling you and reminding you of the things 575 times. Then, the kids go off to Middle School, and they make up for the previous years of deforestation by never sending another paper home again.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 13, 2016 5:46:15 GMT
Fs's social studies teacher and football coach just did this. His last day was last Friday.
I only knew because he told the football players and the players knew more than the staff did.
We got an email 2 days after his last day.
Eta: Ds is in high school
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 13, 2016 6:54:46 GMT
Ours isn't that great with communication! They started a no paper policy a few years ago, so no report cards or letters sent home. Last winter my daughter's 7th grade homeroom/math teacher was arrested and we saw it on the news first. Nothing was spoken about it in school or sent home. Our school district has a policy that if a teacher (current/retired/left district) is arrested (for whatever -DUI, disturbing the peace, etc.) an email blast will go out to all of the parents. Seemed illegal to me if I wasn't in the district, but they do it. I also think some schools don't tell parents because the district isn't allowed to share the information.
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Post by maryland on Nov 13, 2016 16:58:37 GMT
Ours isn't that great with communication! They started a no paper policy a few years ago, so no report cards or letters sent home. Last winter my daughter's 7th grade homeroom/math teacher was arrested and we saw it on the news first. Nothing was spoken about it in school or sent home. Our school district has a policy that if a teacher (current/retired/left district) is arrested (for whatever -DUI, disturbing the peace, etc.) an email blast will go out to all of the parents. Seemed illegal to me if I wasn't in the district, but they do it. I also think some schools don't tell parents because the district isn't allowed to share the information. They probably weren't allowed to share the information. It was so surprising to see him on the news and especially the alleged crime! But also they are strict on being paperless, yearbook orders online only, no outside groups that print their own info are no longer allowed to distribute at school. I just miss getting "official" report cards at the end of the school year for their scrapbook!
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Post by supascrappa on Nov 13, 2016 17:25:01 GMT
I'm always curious why parents need to know "the plan" for what's going on in a classroom. Are teachers not licensed professionals in your state who have been put through a hiring process to ensure they are qualified to teach? Would you expect your banker, doctor, auto mechanic to let you know their "plan" if they were going to be on leave? Why is a teacher held to a different set of expectations?
Teaching is The only profession where any mom/dad out there thinks they know more and can do better....just because they have had a child. I don't get it.
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 13, 2016 17:32:16 GMT
I'm always curious why parents need to know "the plan" for what's going on in a classroom. Are teachers not licensed professionals in your state who have been put through a hiring process to ensure they are qualified to teach? Would you expect your banker, doctor, auto mechanic to let you know their "plan" if they were going to be on leave? Why is a teacher held to a different set of expectations? Teaching is The only profession where any mom/dad out there thinks they know more and can do better....just because they have had a child. I don't get it. Well yes, if my tax person was going to be gone during tax season for example, I'd want to know who was filling in. When my OB was leaving the practice he sat down with me and talked about who the other Drs were in the practice and who would be a good fit for me. Why wouldn't parents want a basic knowledge of who their kids' teachers are? We get a syllabus to sign at the beginning of the term with expectations, contact info etc., so when that CHANGES why shouldn't there be an update? I don't get such a crappy anti parent attitude coming from a teacher.
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Post by anonrefugee on Nov 13, 2016 19:48:59 GMT
I think we would get an email from a middle school teacher who was moving, or departing for maternity leave. At least that was my experience. If it was a firing I assume it would come from the principal.
In highschool we would not get anything.
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