pridemom
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Post by pridemom on Nov 22, 2016 13:36:55 GMT
I don't see anything in the article that says he was admitted for psychiatric reasons. And the "About Time" comments are really insensitive. Regardless of your views on the man, he's a human and obviously going through some medical issues right now. I agree - the article mentioned sleep deprivation, not psychiatric issues. i imagine he is physically exhausted - it happens to a lot of singers when touring. I do think Kayne is s royal jerk and I am by no means a fan - but if he is having medical issues, I hope he gets the help he needs CBS News said he was admitted for psychiatric observation. His behavior for years has shown a history of issues. I do hope he gets the help he obviously needs.
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Post by basketdiva on Nov 22, 2016 14:08:22 GMT
These are all true . That said he was acting like a jerk long before that. Grief and fatigue are no excuse for his bad behavior over many years. And I worked in the mental health field and have enormous empathy for those who are ill. I am sick of selfish rude behavior by public figures being excused away and the little person suffers serious consequences for much smaller "offenses". The same standard should apply to everyone. I don't even like to speculate when it comes to person having a mental illness, so I'm going to leave the "excuse" thing alone, but what do you mean by his "bad behavior?" I feel like plenty of other artists or public figures get away with 10x the stuff Kanye West gets called-out for. He's incredibly outspoken and comes across as pretty arrogant sometimes, but quite a few people will argue that he's brilliant and accomplished to a point where his arrogance is somewhat warranted. I think people love to hate Kanye West without even bothering to understand his work or actually listen to what he has to say. They only pay attention to the delivery. Arrogance is never warranted no matter who you are.
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Post by marimoose on Nov 22, 2016 14:16:57 GMT
I don't buy the mental illness angle. This guy was lucid and fine when he was at the top of his game. He was also a giant douche to people. I think, he's waning in popularity and with that, he needs sympathy. He's also in massive debt and this will bring in some money. This whole family is all about the drama and the press. Now, that said, if he really *IS* mentally ill then I have empathy for him and I wish him a speedy recovery. Doesn't make him less of a douche though. I am not a fan but my son is, along with countless others. My son flew out to LA to see him last month and is so happy he did because the Denver show is one of the shows cancelled. His popularity cannot be waning that much when he continues to sell out show after show after show. The same can be said about his clothing line and don't even get me started on his Yeezy's shoe line. They are impossible to get your hands on. Whether you like the man or not, he is popular and it is unfortunate that he is struggling with something right now. He is a human and we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.
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Post by disneypal on Nov 22, 2016 14:20:49 GMT
Thanks for saying what I'm thinking. You are one of my favorite refupeas - I generally agree with you about 99.9% of the time
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 22, 2016 14:45:10 GMT
These are all true . That said he was acting like a jerk long before that. Grief and fatigue are no excuse for his bad behavior over many years. And I worked in the mental health field and have enormous empathy for those who are ill. I am sick of selfish rude behavior by public figures being excused away and the little person suffers serious consequences for much smaller "offenses". The same standard should apply to everyone. I don't even like to speculate when it comes to person having a mental illness, so I'm going to leave the "excuse" thing alone, but what do you mean by his "bad behavior?" I feel like plenty of other artists or public figures get away with 10x the stuff Kanye West gets called-out for. He's incredibly outspoken and comes across as pretty arrogant sometimes, but quite a few people will argue that he's brilliant and accomplished to a point where his arrogance is somewhat warranted. I think people love to hate Kanye West without even bothering to understand his work or actually listen to what he has to say. They only pay attention to the delivery. I don't love to hate anyone and I don't think that his arrogance is acceptable or warranted. And that goes for those that you feel get away with 10 times as much. And as many say to people here on the board and in real life all the time, if you want people to listen you need to pay attention to the delivery. In my opinion he does not respect the people he is trying to influence and does consider himself above everyone. IMO I consider him one that deserves the asshole status, and I tend to be one that often sees the other side and give people a pass. I hope that that he is fine and able to the rest and help that he needs.
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Post by annabella on Nov 22, 2016 14:55:38 GMT
I wonder if he's bi-polar? I was really shocked he went after Beyonce, he's pals with Jay-Z. The article said Kim didn't go to NYC to be with Kanye, but yesterday I was watching TMZ and they showed her get on a private jet to NYC (all by herself).
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Post by peano on Nov 22, 2016 15:09:51 GMT
No dog in this hunt whatsoever, but "Acting erratically" and needing to be restrained as the article states suggests to me that there's something psychologically going on. Of course, severe sleep deprivation can lead to psychosis. And in addition to it being the calendar anniversary of his mother's death, he is obviously still dealing with what happened to his wife last month.
That being said, MizIndependent is totally right--mental illness and assholianess often reside within the same person. I believe this is why we don't see the same level of support for people with mental illness as we do for those with physical illness--the mentally ill are often not all warm and fuzzy.
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Post by freebird on Nov 22, 2016 15:11:03 GMT
I think he's been a right toolbag in the past, but if he's having problems, that could explain pretty much everything.
Compassion, people!
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Post by pinklady on Nov 22, 2016 15:19:01 GMT
She died in November 2007 annversaries can be hard no matter when the event happened. I'm not sure why you're pointing out the date of his mother's death--serious question, not snark. Oops, I read the original post as saying his mom died this month.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 22, 2016 15:22:51 GMT
I wonder if he's bi-polar? I was really shocked he went after Beyonce, he's pals with Jay-Z. The article said Kim didn't go to NYC to be with Kanye, but yesterday I was watching TMZ and they showed her get on a private jet to NYC (all by herself). I was wondering this too. For some reason, he strikes me as the kind of person who might resist getting diagnosis or taking meds.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 15:25:18 GMT
He THINKS he is pals with Jay-Z. The power couple have been distancing themselves for quite some time.
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Post by RosieKat on Nov 22, 2016 15:31:43 GMT
I can't stand the guy, but I hope he gets whatever help he needs.
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Post by jbelle on Nov 22, 2016 15:45:04 GMT
Lol Kayne amuses me. He is a character and his stunts most definitely captures the attention. Maybe what happened to Kim and that robbery situation got to him. He has to feel some type of way when he could not be there to protect his wife.
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Post by Zee on Nov 22, 2016 16:11:12 GMT
I wonder if he's bi-polar? I was really shocked he went after Beyonce, he's pals with Jay-Z. The article said Kim didn't go to NYC to be with Kanye, but yesterday I was watching TMZ and they showed her get on a private jet to NYC (all by herself). I was wondering this too. For some reason, he strikes me as the kind of person who might resist getting diagnosis or taking meds. I agree, taking meds can really stifle feelings of creativity and dull a person so it's easy to see why some people resist treatment, especially when they're convinced they're creative geniuses. I've wondered for a long time if he is bipolar. It kind of reminds me of Britney. Thank God her father was able to step in on her behalf. I saw a documentary on MTV about Britney a little while after her treatment. They never came out and said she had a mental illness, but she talked about how slow and dead inside she felt on her medication. I felt so bad for her. I don't care for most of what Kanye has to say, but i still wish him well as a person. As a father, he owes it to his children to be the best human he can be.
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Post by MizIndependent on Nov 22, 2016 16:38:18 GMT
He is a talentless idiot. And he has presidential aspirations. So he stands a good chance in 2020 then!!! Kardashians take the White House!
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Post by coffeetalk on Nov 22, 2016 16:59:02 GMT
I read that he was involved in a serious car crash in the early 2000s and sustained head and facial injuries and possibly traumatic brain injury.
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Post by grammanisi on Nov 22, 2016 17:01:08 GMT
I don't see anything in the article that says he was admitted for psychiatric reasons In the original article that I linked to it stated he was hospitalized for a psychiatric evaluation. I went back to the article and see that with the update, that is no longer stated.
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Post by marimoose on Nov 22, 2016 18:05:42 GMT
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Post by MrsLeftyFixIt on Nov 22, 2016 18:08:42 GMT
Those Kardashian women do this to every man they have a relationship with.
Men beware!!
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Post by terri on Nov 22, 2016 18:46:30 GMT
He is a talentless idiot. And he has presidential aspirations. He is incredibly well regarded by music critics. I myself was a big fan in his earlier years and still listen to his collaboration with Jay Z, Watch the Throne, at least once a week. I often think he says the right thing in the wrong way. And he has never been the same since his mother died. I'm sure this is still a very hard anniversary for him.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 22, 2016 18:48:21 GMT
I was watching GMA's story on it and they said he voluntarily checked himself in. um, being handcuffed to a gurney while they took you away doesn't seem voluntary to me.
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Post by lurkingsince2001 on Nov 22, 2016 19:17:36 GMT
I've already read several different versions of this story. I think there will be so much spin and CYA we'll never really know. It's not like most of us believe anything that comes out of his or the Kardashian's mouths anyway.
He was acting like he had issues long before his other died. They were supposedly very close, so I've no doubt that didn't help. Even if he hasn't consciously recognized the anniversary of her death, it could easily be lingering in the back of his mind causing issues. Add in whatever the robbery in Paris stirred up, exhaustion, who knows what else is going on, and it's a powerful cocktail to deal with. (Some gossip sites have been saying for years that the Kimye marriage is really all about business and his passion and heart lie elsewhere. Even if this is true, and it's not necessarily our business if it is, I'd like to think he was upset by what happened in Paris at least for his kid's sake.)
There are a lot of supposed musical geniuses that I just don't "get": I don't like their music or understand how they got such a label. But I can respect the impact they have on the industry and art. I guess the difference with him is that he's so vocal and in your face. He rubs some people the wrong way, especially once politics or his family get involved.
I'm hoping it's a good sign that he knew there was enough of a problem that he was supposedly seeing his doc at his trainer's house, who then made the call and that he cancelled tour. Handcuffs are supposedly SOP when transporting a psych patient like that. And if he did have some instinctive panic and resist, I certainly don't blame him.
He has displayed questionable behavior for years, so this is certainly no shock. He married into a circus which can't have helped. My concern now is whether this is all a stunt, and if not, how will the family twist it to make themselves look better and will that leave him under the train wreck. I suspect he truly needs help, even if this is a stunt. I hope he gets it. Not just for himself, but because I don't want to think of how his fans would react.
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Post by flute4peace on Nov 22, 2016 20:05:52 GMT
Thanks for saying what I'm thinking. You are one of my favorite refupeas - I generally agree with you about 99.9% of the time Oh gosh that's such a sweet thing to say.
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Post by Tamhugh on Nov 22, 2016 20:12:17 GMT
His "assholian" behavior over the years could very well have been the result of untreated mental illness. I am far from a fan, but I hope that he gets the treatment that he needs, whatever the problem is.
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Post by smasonnc on Nov 22, 2016 20:20:25 GMT
The report said he was acting irregularly. I wondered how they could tell. Hope he gets help.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 20:21:09 GMT
I'm not a fan of either KW or the K family...so I really don't know much.
But reading this thread, I'm reminded of how Michael Jackson was kind of lead around by the people he trusted.
Wonder if KW has the same issue. The people he trusts don't really have his best interests at heart...only the money he will pay them to say what he wants to hear.
Very sad situation, all of it.
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Post by annabella on Nov 22, 2016 21:13:48 GMT
Kanye's mother was an educated, strong woman and I think she kept him reeled in, whether on medicine or checked him on his behavior. I think Kanye and Kim were always so perfect for each other because they are both narcissists. She needed a man that could put up with her limelight, and encouragse her need to put herself out there with more nude pics (although strangely wouldn't let her put her daughter on the show the first year). He needed a family, and got her clan. Kim has historically dated assholes. In fact I think all the girls in that family must have daddy issues because they all date one loser after another. That said what I got from my early days of watching the Kardashians is that Kim is very sweet and never single because she's so nurturing to her men. She brokered a truce with Amber Rose recently, that was really big of her. In the recent clips I see of the show, confronting Rob, whatever she is still the nice one. I read Kris' book and as she describes each child she describes Kim as the easy going nice one. Kris has always been friendly and welcoming of all the significant others in her children's lives, including Blac Chyna. I saw a clip where she mentioned her and Chyna text regularly about Rob and she was in the delivery room. So I think this was a good home for Kanye. But perhaps they don't give him a good strong arm like his mother used to do? I also don't know if his serious car accident has affected his brain?
For those of you who don't understand why people call Kanye a musical genius, it's because of his numerous behind the scenes credits of producer on many A-list musician albums, plus his 1st album was a huge success, was different in the industry since it wasn't gangster rap and won many many awards. Him and Jay-Z even did an album together, after the Taylor Swift drama, so clearly Jay didn't have a problem with his antics then. He's had 7 albums, The Life of Pablo album he released this year went to #1. He made the decision to not sell any physical copies of the CD and not put it on itunes. The album cost $20! His bizarre antics may cloud his successes or keep everyone talking about him, perhaps that's the whole idea. This tour he just cancelled was a hot ticket, in fact all his tours are.
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Post by cindosha on Nov 22, 2016 21:16:22 GMT
I find it hard to have compassion for someone who obviously thrives on grabbing the attention from everything and everyone in his irrational path
Sorry
Cindy
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Post by DEX on Nov 22, 2016 21:31:06 GMT
If I were a celebrity, I would be crazy off-my-meds. If the meds I were taking caused me to lose my mojo, I would think twice if it affected my livelihood.
Don't get me wrong. He lost me the first time he was an attention whore on MTV. He continues to be such with his marriage to the Kardashian's . A match made in heaven. Long term I don't see this ending well for him, sadly.
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Post by ingrid on Nov 22, 2016 22:56:51 GMT
This place is amazing.
Kim Kardashian was the victim of a terrifying robbery and people here said she probably made the whole thing up to get attention. And if she didn't make it up? Well, she was pretty much asking to get robbed because she was showing-off her jewelry.
Kanye West is forced into a psychiatric observation unit three days before Thanksgiving? Ha, about time. He's an asshole and never made anything good after that "Jesus Walks" song anyway.
This is stuff I expect in the comment section of a TMZ article. It's just sad to see it here.
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