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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 22, 2016 23:26:19 GMT
After he leaves office?
Do you think it will help or hurt the party if he tries to stay heavily involved?
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Post by Anita on Nov 22, 2016 23:28:02 GMT
Welcome back!!  I'm not even sure in what capacity he could serve. I've been curious to hear what he plans since he alludes to some sort of watchdog status. |
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Post by flute4peace on Nov 22, 2016 23:30:11 GMT
Interesting topic of discussion.
What have former Presidents done in the past? Is there a "this is what is expected"? |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 22, 2016 23:32:56 GMT
I don't know about many former Presidents, but Bush, Jr. refrained from any criticism or intervention.
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Post by pierkiss on Nov 22, 2016 23:37:27 GMT
I Iike Obama.
It depends on what type of roll he's looking to fill. I'm not real wild about the idea of previous presidents becoming senators, governors, house reps, etc. mostly because in general I'm not a big fan of career politicians.
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Post by micheley on Nov 22, 2016 23:40:52 GMT
I think he could be an asset to the party by campaigning for governors/senators/reps. A calm voice of reason during the election season but also one that can still keep people motivated and energized.
For actual party leadership I would prefer some young, fresh faces. People that can attract the 18-25 demographic & mobilize/utilize them. I was really impressed with how interested young people were in this election and how much thought they put into the issues. And frankly I'm tired of old white men running the show. 😉
Who are the "up and comers" in the Democratic Party??
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 22, 2016 23:42:04 GMT
Well it's going to be very hard for him to be involved with the Democrat Party after he's moved to Australia, taken out citizenship and is leading the Labor Party to an election win in 2019!    I am actually very interested to see what he does next. But I don't think he's going to be involved much at all. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 22, 2016 23:45:53 GMT
I really don't know. I do know that one Up and Comer is challenging Nancy Pelosi for minority leader of the House.
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Post by Anita on Nov 22, 2016 23:47:32 GMT
I Iike Obama. It depends on what type of roll he's looking to fill. I'm not real wild about the idea of previous presidents becoming senators, governors, house reps, etc. mostly because in general I'm not a big fan of career politicians. That. I can't imagine "taking a step back" from president to senator or governor. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 23:50:47 GMT
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 22, 2016 23:51:59 GMT
Thanks Gia.
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Post by ntsf on Nov 23, 2016 0:04:15 GMT
it has been done.. andrew johnson was elected senator after serving as president.
I think he should campaign for redistricting.. teach, and be involved.
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Post by carhoch on Nov 23, 2016 0:14:58 GMT
After he leaves office? Do you think it will help or hurt the party if he tries to stay heavily involved? I realize I am changing the subject but what do you think about Steve Brannon nomination has White House Chief Strategist. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 23, 2016 0:18:10 GMT
Not crazy about it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 0:42:29 GMT
I'd be fine with him campaigning for or endorsing candidates that he truly supports. I'm not a fan of the maneuvering and so much else that goes on in both parties, so I hope that he'll stay involved with community organization and grassroots efforts to challenge the system and "establishment." I agree with micheley on the Democratic Party needing fresh new faces. Some serious house-cleaning needs to be done, and the Wasserman-Schulzes, Donna Braziles and other unethical types need to be booted. This goes for both parties, but when your party starts employing questionable means to justify their ends, it's time to re-evaluate and examine whether or not your methods live up to the ideals that you espouse. I wish so much that at least one strong and viable 3rd+ party would emerge. I think both major parties have gone so far off the rails that it's not just new faces that are needed, but whole new parties with different ways of doing things and engaging with and really listening to their members and voters. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 0:43:12 GMT
From what I understand President Obama's original plan after leaving office was to work with Eric Holder on redistricting throughout the country. Taking a page out of the Republican's handbook and get Democrats some of those safe House seats.
He has doing it because of the midterm election when the Democrats in the House received more votes than the Republicans but didn't get the majority. The reason was because of the safe seats from redistricting.
Because of the results of the election that may chance.
I personally hopes he plays a big part in the Democratic Party.
As to raising Democratic stars there are two that I can think of. Both from CA.
First one is Kamala Harris, CA new junior senator. She has been mentioned nationally as up and coming in the Democratic Party. She was San Francisco's AG. Then she became the state's AG and now she is our junior Senator.
The other name is Gavin Newsom. He is currently California's Lt. Governor and I think is poised to become governor when JB leaves office in 2 years. He was SF Mayor and one of the first to have same sex marriages. In this last election he spearheaded a proposition on gun control that passed. One that I'm sure will give the NRA fits.
Both of these guys have the potential to go all the way IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 0:44:06 GMT
To be honest, I don't want President Obama involved after the first few months. This is Trump's presidency. To rise or fall. I don't want to give any one the excuse it's Obama's fault if Trump messes up. If Trump does well, I also don't want Obama to get credit. He just needs to distance himself. People were so quick to blame him for everything that went wrong and don't credit him for everything that went right. I think Trump is going to crash and burn and I wouldn't want Obama anywhere near that mess. I do hope I'm wrong. But all signs point to chaos during the next 4 years. He's not even President yet, and people are going nuts.
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Post by Merge on Nov 23, 2016 0:46:46 GMT
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 23, 2016 0:54:40 GMT
I've never gotten the feeling that Michelle was interested in being the next Hillary.
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Post by RosieKat on Nov 23, 2016 1:58:42 GMT
I would rather see him outside a strict governmental role, but doing some real good. Think Habitat for Humanity and Carter - I think Obama can galvanize people in a very special way, but I think it's time for him to use it for less overtly political reasons. In spite of all the rumors and gossip about how he'll have more to say about Trump come February, I sincerely doubt he'll ever be open with his real, uncensored thoughts. While (I'm assuming) he won't like Trump, he'll still want the nation to succeed and he (Obama) can't work directly against Trump in that case. So I think he will best be put to use in a more humanitarian leadership role.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 23, 2016 2:37:47 GMT
I really hope you're right, Jennifer.
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Post by ntsf on Nov 23, 2016 2:45:12 GMT
gavin is impressive.. made some big mistakes, done some great things. he spoke at my son's high school graduation when he was mayor.. his theme was "Women Rule".. and the head of every department in our city was a woman... and our city has a 8 billion dollar budget.
he is a great speaker.
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Post by ahiller on Nov 23, 2016 3:12:02 GMT
He would just stay President, if it were up to me. 😂
I really admire GWB for not commenting about Obama's presidency. Obama will be in a unique position, given some of Trump's rhetoric. It will be interesting to see how he handles it.
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Post by scrapaddie on Nov 23, 2016 3:24:53 GMT
I think he could be an asset to the party by campaigning for governors/senators/reps. A calm voice of reason during the election season but also one that can still keep people motivated and energized. For actual party leadership I would prefer some young, fresh faces. People that can attract the 18-25 demographic & mobilize/utilize them. I was really impressed with how interested young people were in this election and how much thought they put into the issues. And frankly I'm tired of old white men running the show. 😉 Who are the "up and comers" in the Democratic Party?? Unfortunately it is the old white men and women that actually turn out to vote. The 18 to 25 is a smaller part of the population and their voter participation has always been low. It was estimated around 17 or 18% for this past election . Remember, this is the same age group that other posts have described as entitled and pampered. This is the age group that still has the helicopter parents. That other posters have described as looking for excuses rather than working. I don't necessarily agree with these post but those things have been stated here. In any case, it makes sense for any campaigner to work on the populations that actually vote and contain more voters. it's all about demographics |
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Post by Tamhugh on Nov 23, 2016 4:07:14 GMT
I hope that he will remain out of the picture for at least a short while. I really admired that GW Bush did not voice his opinion on President Obama. I would like to see him teach. I would like to see Michelle Obama do more speaking engagements. I think she is an amazing speaker, although I do not particularly like his speaking style.
As for up and comers, I am a big fan of Corey Booker.
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Post by Sarah*H on Nov 23, 2016 4:12:50 GMT
I'm expecting him to take on a significant role with OFA, to attack the issues of gerrymandering and false media. I also think he and Michelle will be doing something philanthropic regarding climate change and women's rights around the world. I don't want him anywhere near the DNC or Democratic Party operations. He needs to stay above the fray.
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Post by auntkelly on Nov 23, 2016 15:33:43 GMT
A pea posted a link to an interview Elizabeth Warren gave the other day on Rachel Maddow's show and Warren seemed to be clearly distancing herself from the Democratic Party establishment. Warren said voters voted for Trump not because of his racism, but in spite of his racism. She said the economy is working for the elite, but not the average citizen, and that is why Trump won the election. It sounded to me like she is already gearing up for the 2020 race and that she has no plans of running on the coattails of Obama, although if she wins the nomination I'm sure she would welcome his support in key states.
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Post by trollie on Nov 23, 2016 15:39:48 GMT
I'm expecting him to take on a significant role with OFA, to attack the issues of gerrymandering and false media. I also think he and Michelle will be doing something philanthropic regarding climate change and women's rights around the world. I don't want him anywhere near the DNC or Democratic Party operations. He needs to stay above the fray. ITA. And as much as I think Michelle would be an awesome president. (Don't think she'd run anyway.) I don't want to see another Obama, another Bush, another Clinton or another any family that has already been in the white house. We need to stay away from the dynasty type situations. |
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