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Post by snugglebutter on Nov 23, 2016 3:35:48 GMT
I'm looking at getting a new sewing machine. I'm still mostly a beginner and I have an older-than-me metal Kenmore. It works but is fussy and I don't feel good about letting my kids learn on it. Based on recommendations here and from people IRL, I want to get a basic Janome. Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about these models? Janome 2212 - lowest price of the three. It has a front loading bobbin, where the other two have drop-in. Is this a big deal? (my Kenmore is front loading so I wouldn't know any different) Janome Jem Gold 660 - mid price, smallest/lightest weight. This one has the drop-in bobbin and also and automatic needle threader. (also something I haven't used but it sounds handy) Janome Magnolia 7318 - This one has a few more stitches and the drop-in bobbin, though I'm not sure about the needle threader. It has come up on some articles I've found about good beginner machines, but I don't know what advantages it would have that are worth paying $50-100 more than the other two machines. TIA
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Post by perumbula on Nov 23, 2016 3:53:01 GMT
It looks like the most expensive machine has feed dogs that will drop so you can free motion quilt. (not that you'd want to with that short free arm. ) It looks like it has variable stitch length as well, which can be important. The little lightweight one does not. They both are pretty similar in built in stitches and both have the same four step button hole process. The more expensive one comes with more feet.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 23, 2016 4:45:01 GMT
Unless all you want it for is really basic stuff, I say go with the better machine. If you think you might outgrow a cheaper one quickly, you won't be sorry paying more for nicer machine to begin with. I bought a DC2014 a couple years ago and I LOVE it! But I'm a fairly experienced seamstress and was replacing a 40 year old Bernina so there's that.
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 23, 2016 4:56:28 GMT
I would pick the Magnolia. Actually I did pick it last Spring after agonizing on it for quite a while. I haven't sewed a ton on it yet but it is easy to use (except threading the needle, I'm far sighted...it does not have the auto threading thing) and my 9 year old was able to sew on it without much help as well. The machine gets great reviews and the instruction books is easy to understand, I had it set up in and ready to go in 5 minutes.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 23, 2016 5:55:08 GMT
Magnolia. For what it's worth, the needle threaded is the most useless thing on my sewing machine. I never ever use it so it wouldn't kill me to not have it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 6:26:29 GMT
I bought a babylock 9 for $200. It is all metal. It is a very basic model , but I am not a fancy seamstress So it suits me fine.
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Post by katlady on Nov 23, 2016 6:33:39 GMT
I have a different model of the Jem and love it. I bought the smaller size so I could take it to quilt classes. If you don't need portability I would get the higher priced one you are considering.
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Post by gale w on Nov 23, 2016 7:48:22 GMT
For me a drop in bobbin is a must-have. I've had both and hated the front loading bobbin. I've never used my machine's needle threader but I know a lot of people consider that a must-have as well.
I have a feeling I'll need to use the needle threader one of these days.
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Post by peasapie on Nov 23, 2016 8:01:13 GMT
I had the old metal Kenmore for years and years. The darned thing just would die! Finally, I bought a Brother Innovis and I love it. No more needle threading. No more tension issues. Lots of different stitches.
Whatever you get, make sure it has lots of nice features. You won't regret it.
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Post by dald222 on Nov 23, 2016 10:28:21 GMT
I had a wonderful Janome that I loved. I had it many years
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Post by Leone on Nov 23, 2016 12:57:53 GMT
Ive had the gold. It is great for taking to classes because of the size. However I sold it for a small Bernina as it couldn't handle some projects. Drop in bobbin AND needle threader are very important. Also, does it have the needle down feature. Janome is a very good brand.
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Post by marimoose on Nov 23, 2016 15:30:48 GMT
For me a drop in bobbin is a must-have. I've had both and hated the front loading bobbin. I've never used my machine's needle threader but I know a lot of people consider that a must-have as well. I have a feeling I'll need to use the needle threader one of these days. I am laughing. I never used my needle threaer in the past but I gotta tell you, I couldn't live without now. When the eyes get tired...... my favorite thing on my machine is my automatic thread clipper - it is the little things that make a difference:)
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Post by compwalla on Nov 23, 2016 15:39:57 GMT
I use the shit out of the needle threader and hate when I have a needle/thread combination that requires hand threading. But if my only choices were needle threader or adjustable stitch length, I'd pick the machine with the adjustable stitch length. It's just important to be able to control that.
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Post by GiantsFan on Nov 23, 2016 15:57:53 GMT
I think you should NOT start with a basic machine. You will outgrow it in no time. IMO, get the best one you can afford.
Do you have a sewing machine store nearby? One where you can test drive a few machines and brands in your price range? A local store might have some deals in the next few days, too.
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Post by dulcemama on Nov 23, 2016 16:01:58 GMT
For me a drop in bobbin is a must-have. I've had both and hated the front loading bobbin. I've never used my machine's needle threader but I know a lot of people consider that a must-have as well. I have a feeling I'll need to use the needle threader one of these days. Funny, I'm the opposite. I hate the drop in bobbins.
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Post by dulcemama on Nov 23, 2016 16:06:27 GMT
I think you should NOT start with a basic machine. You will outgrow it in no time. IMO, get the best one you can afford. Do you have a sewing machine store nearby? One where you can test drive a few machines and brands in your price range? A local store might have some deals in the next few days, too. To some degree this is true but a lot depends on what you anticipate using it for. I have one of the Janome Hello Kitty machines (very similar to the Magnolia) and it has everything I need and is a powerhouse (plowed through long fake fur with no issues at all) Also, many of the higher end machines are computerized which I think is something to think about as well.
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 23, 2016 16:25:36 GMT
I think you should NOT start with a basic machine. You will outgrow it in no time. IMO, get the best one you can afford. Do you have a sewing machine store nearby? One where you can test drive a few machines and brands in your price range? A local store might have some deals in the next few days, too. To some degree this is true but a lot depends on what you anticipate using it for. I have one of the Janome Hello Kitty machines (very similar to the Magnolia) and it has everything I need and is a powerhouse (plowed through long fake fur with no issues at all) Also, many of the higher end machines are computerized which I think is something to think about as well. Yeah, I forgot that was one of the reasons I picked the machine I picked...it's not computerized, so no chance it becomes possessed and sews me to death in my sleep and/or the computer chip suddenly stops working. I do kind of wish it came with a case though, I need to sew a dust cover as my next project.
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 23, 2016 16:29:58 GMT
I bought my first machine barely being able to sew, it is a husqvarna Viking emerald 118. It's got a drop down needle threader that I absolutely love! Not automatics but that's ok, basic stitches. Adjustable stitch length. It can handle 8 layers of denim with the proper needle, feed dogs can be dropped. I had to have it serviced because something inside was plastic and I wore it out, lol, i've had it for almost 15 years and love it,
My dad gave me an old Morse machine and that sucker is amazing! All metal, weighs a ton, workhorse. No automatic anything. A different foot for ruffles, zigzags. Haven't explored everything on it yet as I'm a bit intimidated,
Get as much machine as you can afford and you'll be happy.
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Post by tincin on Nov 23, 2016 17:08:58 GMT
I'm looking at getting a new sewing machine. I'm still mostly a beginner and I have an older-than-me metal Kenmore. It works but is fussy and I don't feel good about letting my kids learn on it. Based on recommendations here and from people IRL, I want to get a basic Janome. Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about these models? Janome 2212 - lowest price of the three. It has a front loading bobbin, where the other two have drop-in. Is this a big deal? (my Kenmore is front loading so I wouldn't know any different) Janome Jem Gold 660 - mid price, smallest/lightest weight. This one has the drop-in bobbin and also and automatic needle threader. (also something I haven't used but it sounds handy) Janome Magnolia 7318 - This one has a few more stitches and the drop-in bobbin, though I'm not sure about the needle threader. It has come up on some articles I've found about good beginner machines, but I don't know what advantages it would have that are worth paying $50-100 more than the other two machines. TIA I would not let the self threader be a deal breaker. My Janome had a self threader for a while, then the hook that pulls the thread through the needle eye broke. Too late to return it and too early for a new machine. It really depends on how much you will sew. If you're planning to use it a lot, get the best machine you can afford.
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Post by scrapngranny on Nov 23, 2016 17:26:52 GMT
I have a mid range Janome that I have had for years and I love it. I do like the drop in bobbin. The needle threader broke a long while ago and I never bothered to replace it. I have had my machine for 19-20 years and it has a lot of miles on it and it's never given me a problem. Enjoy what ever machine you choose.
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Post by peasapie on Nov 23, 2016 17:31:22 GMT
For me a drop in bobbin is a must-have. I've had both and hated the front loading bobbin. I've never used my machine's needle threader but I know a lot of people consider that a must-have as well. I have a feeling I'll need to use the needle threader one of these days. I am laughing. I never used my needle threaer in the past but I gotta tell you, I couldn't live without now. When the eyes get tired...... my favorite thing on my machine is my automatic thread clipper - it is the little things that make a difference:) I use both those features all the time. And every time I do, I swear I feel so happy after not having them for so long. (I didn't even know it was a thing until I got my new sewing machine.) SaveSave
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Post by happiest.raincloud on Nov 23, 2016 18:13:10 GMT
Go for the Magnolia. It'll give you room to grow as a sewer, with the features the other 2 don't have. The stitch length adjustment is also really nice to have!
If you live in an area that has a sewing machine (often with vacuums too) store, you might stop in and take a look. Often they have slightly used machines at a good price, and you can try them in store before you buy it. I bought a new machine last year at a local store - one that had been used twice and then traded in. I got it for half the price of a new machine! I also got 2 free lessons from the store to learn all the features of the machine and how to use them.
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 23, 2016 18:33:42 GMT
I use the shit out of the needle threader and hate when I have a needle/thread combination that requires hand threading. But if my only choices were needle threader or adjustable stitch length, I'd pick the machine with the adjustable stitch length. It's just important to be able to control that. I was going to say this about the needle threader--when the eyes get old and I sew at night, it's wonderful! But the point about adjusting your stitch length--that is key. The description says you can adjust the stitch width as well, which I do use quite a bit in regular (non quilting) sewing, both with a narrow stitch and a wide stitch. So I would look into that, as I don't see how you would do that manually. There's a stitch length know, but no stitch width knob. If you are sewing at home, a heavier machine is actually easier to control. My machine was in for service and I borrowed a machine from their store. It was really difficult to control my sewing if I sewed fast at all. The machine would bounce up and down and skitter across the table. I had to hold the machine down with one hand and sew with the other, which doesn't make for accurate stitching either. When you are overcasting seams, you want to be able to go fast! If $250 is the top of your price range, then definitely get the Magnolia. Just be sure to check to see if you can adjust the width manually. If not, I'd save up a little longer.
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Post by melissa on Nov 23, 2016 19:53:42 GMT
I agree to get a bit more of a machine than you need now and, if you have a local store, go check them out. My local store's prices are actually about the same as what I find on sale at Amazon PLUS they toss in free classes including one where they make sure you know how to use your machine. I was the only one there for the one for my sewing machine when I bought my serger. In fact, I was there for about 2 hours for my serger lesson and learned so much. My price range for my sewing machine was a bit higher. I bought a Janome DC 1050 probably 3. I paid $350ish. I love that machine and use it several days each week. It has the drop in bobbin, thread cutter, and needle threader. My old basic Janome did not have any of that. I wanted more control for stitch length and width and wanted a stretch stitch besides the zigzag. My original machine only had a straight stitch and zigzag and was limited in what stitch size you could use. I ended up finding that frustrating. My current machine includes a bunch of decorative stitches too. Janome 1030I also agree about the issues with a lighter weight machine. I was given my mom's old Singer. Yuck, yuck, yuck. All plastic, lightweight and bouncy. It was not an old Singer, but one from the 1990's probably. Her good one went to my brother.
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Post by GiantsFan on Nov 23, 2016 20:56:37 GMT
I think you should NOT start with a basic machine. You will outgrow it in no time. IMO, get the best one you can afford. Do you have a sewing machine store nearby? One where you can test drive a few machines and brands in your price range? A local store might have some deals in the next few days, too. To some degree this is true but a lot depends on what you anticipate using it for. I have one of the Janome Hello Kitty machines (very similar to the Magnolia) and it has everything I need and is a powerhouse (plowed through long fake fur with no issues at all) Also, many of the higher end machines are computerized which I think is something to think about as well. Ooops, I forgot about computerized machines. I shouldn't have said the "best one you can afford". I just meant that you may outgrow a beginner model quickly. And of course it depends on what you are planning on doing with it. Save
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