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Post by anniefb on Nov 26, 2016 5:54:33 GMT
plus kids should be on the school bus, not taking up seats on the bus that's heading into the city and is meant for workers. I took public transportation to school. We did not have school bus service. Of course, the drivers hated us when it was time to go home. Some would even not stop to pick us up. Here we have quite extensive school bus routes and school only buses, so there's no need for kids to catch the regular bus. SaveSave
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Post by zella on Nov 26, 2016 5:55:51 GMT
A very tired child, maybe. But good grief, kids sit on the floor all the time, they could do that!
A visibly pregnant woman, someone with an obvious disability, someone significantly older than myself. All of those. I'd also be open to giving up my seat if asked and the reasoning was good. E.g. someone who felt ill.
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Post by katlady on Nov 26, 2016 6:01:05 GMT
I took public transportation to school. We did not have school bus service. Of course, the drivers hated us when it was time to go home. Some would even not stop to pick us up. Here we have quite extensive school bus routes and school only buses, so there's no need for kids to catch the regular bus. SaveSaveI wish we had that. In my area, only kids with special needs get picked up by school buses. Otherwise, you walk, take public transportation, or someone drives you to school.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 26, 2016 6:36:58 GMT
I was taught as a child to give up my seat for any adult.
As an adult I would give up my seat for everyone except 4 and 7.
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Post by craftykitten on Nov 26, 2016 7:57:57 GMT
I won't give up my seat for random adults or children. Otherwise, all of those plus anyone who looks like they need it. But I have health issues myself and I'm only 33 so don't judge me for not giving up my seat. Sometimes I truly need it.
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Post by peasapie on Nov 26, 2016 8:40:18 GMT
This is pretty much my priority on the subways. I have offered to switch places if child and parent are seated separately, so they can sit together.
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Post by mallie on Nov 26, 2016 11:59:33 GMT
Just curious why did you say no to 3-very pregnant woman? Idk I just wouldn't. I don't see being pregnant as a handicap which is one of the reasons I would give up my seat for. Now if the pregnant women was in visible distress from standing up I would but I would do that for anyone if I seen they were in distress. When you are pregnant, your center of gravity is off and it can be difficult to maintain your balance while standing in a moving vehicle. So a pregnant woman might not be in distress until she fell down. I'd rather given up my seat than have that happen.
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Post by mikklynn on Nov 26, 2016 12:06:42 GMT
Thank you to all of you who would give up your seat. You'd be shocked at how often this is a problem for my DH. He uses crutches all the time, due to cancer in his hip and femur. I have had to point out, more than once, the handicapped seats on the bus and train are for handicapped people. I literally had to demand a seat for DH on a rental car shuttle. The driver was ready to intervene, but I beat him to it.
ETA - Chicago Peas, your city ROCKS. DH has never had to stand on your trains. Thank you! In fact, OTHER handicapped people have offered their seats, LOL.
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 26, 2016 12:39:08 GMT
I'd like to think that I would give up my seat to someone who needs it...but honestly, I can't say that I have ever been in a situation that required me to even think about it. It is questions like this that make me realize how unworldly I really am-I don't use public transportation (inconvenient in my smallish town) and I have never taken a commuter train. Closest would be Disney monorails/buses but I don't recall the situation ever coming up.
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Post by KelleeM on Nov 26, 2016 12:41:27 GMT
I wouldn't think to give up my seat for a child. I would give it up for anyone with a handicap, an old person or an obviously pregnant woman. My husband would give his up for all of the above plus any woman, regardless of her age. He did this on a bus in Bermuda after we shared a pitcher of Rum Swizzles. He later regretted that decision a little bit but we've had many laughs about it!
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Post by johnnysmom on Nov 26, 2016 12:44:24 GMT
Idk I just wouldn't. I don't see being pregnant as a handicap which is one of the reasons I would give up my seat for. Now if the pregnant women was in visible distress from standing up I would but I would do that for anyone if I seen they were in distress. When you are pregnant, your center of gravity is off and it can be difficult to maintain your balance while standing in a moving vehicle. So a pregnant woman might not be in distress until she fell down. I'd rather given up my seat than have that happen. That's not always true. I have given birth twice and both time I was perfectly capable of standing on a train/bus if needed. Id hate being treated like I was handicapped just because I had a basketball under my shirt and foot in my ribs.
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Post by Linda on Nov 26, 2016 13:47:43 GMT
As a older child/teen, I was taught to offer my seat to adults, especially the elderly, disaabled, or pregnant. And I've taught MY children to do so as well once they were old enough to stand (before that, they could always sit on my lap if their seat was needed)
As an adult, when I've been physically able to do, I continue to offer my seat to anyone who appears to need it more than I do. But there have been times (now is one of them) when I've needed that seat myself.
I'll never forget the bus driver who wouldn't pull away from the bus stop until someone had given me a seat - I was young (early 20s) but on crutches with a full leg brace and had my toddler with me - I was SO grateful
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Post by KikiPea on Nov 26, 2016 13:51:34 GMT
Unless the child was disabled, or had some type of issue, I would not give up my seat for them. Everyone else on the list, except 7, yes.
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Post by leannec on Nov 26, 2016 13:56:35 GMT
I was always told as a child that you give up your seat for an elderly or disabled person. I would also give my seat to someone who was VERY pregnant because your balance is off when you are in that condition ... Our trains have poles to hold onto so kids would be fine standing ... I'm not giving up my seat to children ... sorry!
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Post by Nanner on Nov 26, 2016 15:11:09 GMT
I would and have given up my seat for old, disabled and pregnant. I remember being stuck on a train 9 months pregnant, and nobody gave up their seat.
I have a funny story. Many years ago, I got on the train after work and sat down in one of the few remaining seats. A woman came in after me and there were no seats left. She was probably in her 30s. She looked at a man who was sitting and said to him "Excuse me. There is priority seating for women. You need to give me your seat." Everyone looked at her with their jaws dropped open. She repeated it and the man, who probably didn't know what to do, got up and gave her his seat. She actually physically and visibly snuggled her butt into the seat, pulled out her book and began to read - no thank you to the man or anything. While everybody was just staring at her, wondering what the hell she was thinking.
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Post by melanell on Nov 26, 2016 15:25:37 GMT
I have arthritis in my knees, and I get back pain from standing for long periods (my commute is over an hour), so there are definitely days where I'm biting my lip and have tears in my eyes before I get home - but I don't have a cane or other visible sign of my pain, so I don't expect people to get up for me. I understand that because my dad is in a similar situation. not arthritis, but instead old injuries from his time in the war that have left his one leg a real mess. His knee & ankle are so bad. He wears special shoes & braces, but the braces are under his clothing and the shoes require you to be pretty observant, so typically no one would know how much pain he was in. Save
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Post by melanell on Nov 26, 2016 15:27:50 GMT
I can definitely imagine myself giving my seat to a "regular adult" in some circumstances. If they were carrying multiple packages, or a small child, then I would think they could use the seat more than I could.
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Post by sueg on Nov 26, 2016 15:59:25 GMT
I use public transport everyday, and will take a seat if one is available - in fact, I think it is silly not to take a seat if there are spares, as standing just clutters up the aisles. I will offer my seat to older people and to pregnant women, or women holding small children. I wouldn't give up a seat to a school aged child, but neither would I expect them to give up their seat to me. On the funny side of this issue, I have noticed in the past few years that every so often, I am always offered a seat when I get on a train or bus. I have now worked out that it coincides with when I really need to book an appointment with my hairdresser! Maybe I should bite the bullet and allow my hair to go completely gray, instead of covering it up, so I always get a seat!
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Post by artbabe on Nov 26, 2016 16:01:53 GMT
I just think of the Disney buses and our 6-year-old. If he was near a pole he was fine standing up. If he was in a middle area where the seats faced inward there was nothing for him to hold onto except my leg and I was getting bumped around.
I gave up my seat to several children that were having that problem. Also ones who were almost asleep. Our 6-year-old fell asleep standing up on the way home one night. We were packed in so tightly, however, that he didn't fall over.
Old people and disabled people are a no-brainer. Of course.
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Post by basketdiva on Nov 26, 2016 16:05:38 GMT
1, 2, 3, 5 and 6. Not for a chid unless they're really struggling to hold on/stand etc - and if that's the case, they're probably really young and travelling with parents. I don't travel on trains very often but I catch buses to work each day. It really annoys me when I see kid (usually 11-17 yrs old) sitting and adults standing. I quite often ask them to give their seat to someone older It's annoying because it says to me lack of respect for adults, plus kids should be on the school bus, not taking up seats on the bus that's heading into the city and is meant for workers. In the US, public transportation is for anyone to use. I've never heard of a bus being just for workers.
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Post by eleezybeth on Nov 26, 2016 16:07:17 GMT
I have small children. They aren't exactly balanced nor are they really paying attention to the lurches of the bus/train. So, while I'd like to think this is about ability, it really for me has to do with safety. That kid, who is holding on to me who has the attention span of a 3 year old -because she is 3 - really becomes a bowling ball on a lurching train. Not because she is ill mannered or a brat but because she is 3. Lots of people give up their seats for us on the train. I usually sit and hold the 3 year old and 5 year olds on my lap. They really are quite dangerous to those around them so if I can't sit with them, I try to coral them against a wall. When that isn't possible, it really is scary hoping they won't knock us all down.
Remember that commercial from years ago that showed why kids should be buckled up in cars? Something about a 35 lb. weight coming for your head? Same difference on a train or a bus. They simply can't control themselves.
Now--- about the Veteran's. That cracks me up. My super hulking more than abled, uniformed Soldier would laugh in your face. The Soldier takes a seat from a woman?? LOL! No. Not going to happen. I live in DC. Lots and lots of uniforms and lots and lots of Vets ride the trains daily. I've NEVER ever, ever seen a Service Member sitting when others could. They wouldn't even think of it. Can you imagine that youtube video?? Woman refused seat because Veteran has preference? Maybe this is just my circle of veterans but no, no, no they would crucify the person who took your seat.
I am really hoping that the peas are more generous than they sometimes appear. I have multiple hidden ailments so while I look "A okay" I'm really not. Not all disabilities are visible. If someone is struggling "but shouldn't be" then I have the decency to be the better person. I could never imagine not letting a mom sit with a child in her arms unless my pain is really out of control that day.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 26, 2016 16:14:34 GMT
1, 2, 3, 5 and 6. Not for a chid unless they're really struggling to hold on/stand etc - and if that's the case, they're probably really young and travelling with parents. I don't travel on trains very often but I catch buses to work each day. It really annoys me when I see kid (usually 11-17 yrs old) sitting and adults standing. I quite often ask them to give their seat to someone older It's annoying because it says to me lack of respect for adults, plus kids should be on the school bus, not taking up seats on the bus that's heading into the city and is meant for workers. The city bus was the school bus for my son in high school.
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Post by compwalla on Nov 26, 2016 16:19:47 GMT
No one. Not at the moment anyhow. The cancer/chemo card is why. sorrynotsorry.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 26, 2016 16:33:03 GMT
What are wwe calling old? My FIL and dad are pushing 70. Neither of them needs nor would want to take another's seat.
I would think old and frail looking.
I'd give it up for people who look like they need to sit. Old, young, pregnant, holding an infant or toddler...
Unless I was in pain or something. Then I would sit.
If it is easier for me to stand than it is for the person, I'll give up my seat.
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Post by myshelly on Nov 26, 2016 16:39:32 GMT
I'd like to think that I would give up my seat to someone who needs it...but honestly, I can't say that I have ever been in a situation that required me to even think about it. It is questions like this that make me realize how unworldly I really am-I don't use public transportation (inconvenient in my smallish town) and I have never taken a commuter train. Closest would be Disney monorails/buses but I don't recall the situation ever coming up. This is my experience, too. We don't have much public transportation here. In fact a lot of cities fight public transportation routes coming into their cities. We don't even have school buses here (well we have buses for field trips and football games, but there's no service to take kids to school, parents are expected to drive them). The only time I've been on a train was for fun (like Day Out With Thomas or Polar Express) and then everyone has assigned seats, so there's no issue. The only time I've been on a bus was in Disney World.
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Post by dazeepetals on Nov 26, 2016 16:47:10 GMT
Well, as a very noticeable pregnant lady I can say that the last time we rode a train or a commuter bus, a seat wasn't given up to me. I was handling my 3 year old at the time also. I was kinda shocked, but we made due. My center of gravity is off so sudden movements make it likely for me to fall and while trying to handle a 3 year old it was extra hard.
IF I wasn't pregnant, I would gladly give up my seat to elderly, disabled, pregnant women, adult with a small infant/child, etc.
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Post by dazeepetals on Nov 26, 2016 16:49:47 GMT
No one. Not at the moment anyhow. The cancer/chemo card is why. sorrynotsorry. I've would never give anyone a stink eye for NOT giving up a seat. I don't know what's going on in their lives that may make getting up from a seat difficult/challenging. Don't be sorry. If anyone ever gave you the stink eye, you have a right to sock them in the eye
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 26, 2016 16:52:41 GMT
I'd like to think that I would give up my seat to someone who needs it...but honestly, I can't say that I have ever been in a situation that required me to even think about it. It is questions like this that make me realize how unworldly I really am-I don't use public transportation (inconvenient in my smallish town) and I have never taken a commuter train. Closest would be Disney monorails/buses but I don't recall the situation ever coming up.When we were at WDW in 2014 we stayed on property and took the buses to and from the parks we visited. Overall it was very convenient, but one of the things that DH and I noted was how many people were bringing their power chair things (NOT wheelchairs) on the buses, and just how many regular seat spaces were taken up transporting them. So the people would sit in one of the handicapped seats up front (okay, fine) but then their power chair would take up the space of another 2-3 additional seats on the bus that had to be folded up to accommodate the chair in transit. At one point we were on a bus with several of the power chairs loaded on, leaving very little seating for anyone else. There really needs to be a better way to get them and their owners around especially in places where a lot of people need to be efficiently moved from place to place.
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Post by anniefb on Nov 26, 2016 17:04:11 GMT
1, 2, 3, 5 and 6. Not for a chid unless they're really struggling to hold on/stand etc - and if that's the case, they're probably really young and travelling with parents. I don't travel on trains very often but I catch buses to work each day. It really annoys me when I see kid (usually 11-17 yrs old) sitting and adults standing. I quite often ask them to give their seat to someone older It's annoying because it says to me lack of respect for adults, plus kids should be on the school bus, not taking up seats on the bus that's heading into the city and is meant for workers. In the US, public transportation is for anyone to use. I've never heard of a bus being just for workers. The bus I catch is a 'express' faster bus which goes from my suburb into the city at rush hour bypassing many of the stops and certain town centres. There are only a small number of these and seats are limited. There are other buses which stop at more stops and/or take a longer route plus designated school buses only for students. It's not that the bus says 'workers only' but IMO kids who don't need to catch it because they're only going 6 stops and not into the city shouldn't take a seat away from someone who, if they can't get on (which happens quite a bit) has to wait another 30 mins for the next express service. SaveSave
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Post by huskergal on Nov 26, 2016 17:10:57 GMT
1. Disabled old person 2. Disabled person 3. Very pregnant woman 4. Child 5. Regular old person 6. Not very pregnant woman 7. Regular adults
1, 2, 3, 4, 5(if she wanted it)
For the child, only if the child was disabled or there was some special circumstance.
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