momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on Nov 27, 2016 3:54:43 GMT
Not sure if this is a want support or want approval type of thing. I feel like even as an adult I look for my parents approval too much and i'm not sure why? Not in an everyday kind of thing, but I feel like I do things to keep the peace more often than not rather than just saying no.
Someone pointed out to me that mother in particular isn't as supportive as one would think she might be. She's pretty opinionated and thinks she knows best. I've set some limits with her and it's worked out fairly well.
I have some decisions to make that will change things in my life drastically....it's not something I want to do and I know that the feedback i'm going to get isn't going to be great. I'm contemplating tonight am I fearful that I have to do this alone without someone to support me....or is it all about approval. Normally i'd go with lack of support as the answer, but recently I had a rough patch with parents and found myself unusually relieved that we were on good terms again, which made me think i'm looking for approval.
Anyone want to weigh in on what they think the difference is between the two? The things you ponder when overtired and waiting up for your kid to come in...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 4:44:12 GMT
I think they are different. But given the way many parents "discipline" older teens/college age adults it is no wonder the two feel the same. All you can do is ponder why you feel they are the same.. how your parents kept you in line between 16 and late tweenties will be a huge clue... then decide if you have other support groups available if they don't support you.
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Nov 27, 2016 4:57:32 GMT
I think as humans we all want those closest to us to love us--and I think loving includes approval. Who doesn't want their loved ones to be proud of them? However, many parents can't seem to step back once their kids are adults and let them live their own lives without interference. In my personal experience, the parents that have the hardest time with this are those who are super religious. To them, there's a very narrow "correct" way to live, morally. And it's not ok to them if their family and friends act differently/believe differently. I've witnessed so much hurt and heartache suffered by those who don't "measure up". My saving grace was my dad. He encouraged me to be independent and stand up for myself and others. My mom didn't like dh. Too bad. She likes him now. My dad also told me that I should accept my mom as she is and love her. He understood more than anyone how frustrating she can be. I wish my mom wasn't so negative and pushy. I can't really say that I care whether she "approves" of me or not. Being sick has the silver lining of being the perfect excuse for not spending so much time with her that I go crazy. Dh and I went to lunch with her and her best friend on Thanksgiving--she's like the sister I never had, and she's also everything my mom wanted in a daughter. So I get whatever attention is left over--which is fine with me since she's no longer driving me nuts. After lunch, my mom and friend were going to a relative of the friend's for dessert. So mom insisted that we get to Cracker Barrel first thing when they open. 10:30am. No concern if dh feels ok. He doesn't. Mom told me that she didn't even know if he wanted to come since friend's husband wasn't. She just assumed that I'd come without him--um, he's the one I want to spend Thanksgiving with. We were 30 minutes late because dh didn't feel good, and then his pants were torn, and he had to change. Friend snuck off to the bathroom and called me to let me know to just take our time--Mom kept calling our house and cellphones at 10:35. I just ignore her. Dh wanted to talk to friend about some business issues he's having, and we had a great time. When we got home, we just watched movies in bed. For me, dh comes first. I try not to let my mom's craziness invade our peace. I also try to keep my mom from being negative to my brother's kids. He's going through a divorce and asked me to run interference when his kids visit. His son is spending Christmas break with my mom since my brother is working most of it. Dh and I won't be in town the whole time, but I'm going to do what I can. I've learned to do what is best for dh and me. I'm tired of other people trying to bully me and others to believe and live a certain way. So while I would like for those close to me to approve of me, I'm not going to change if they don't. (especially since they're bigots)
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 27, 2016 5:15:38 GMT
I think they are different. But given the way many parents "discipline" older teens/college age adults it is no wonder the two feel the same. All you can do is ponder why you feel they are the same.. how your parents kept you in line between 16 and late tweenties will be a huge clue... then decide if you have other support groups available if they don't support you. Ha. Your typo made me laugh. It just feels like they are in their tweenties.
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Post by mikklynn on Nov 27, 2016 14:07:23 GMT
I think you also want to keep the peace, which is perfectly understandable. Just don't sacrifice your happiness to please other people.
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momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on Nov 27, 2016 14:19:26 GMT
I love coming here with my ramblings You always give some insight and more thoughts to consider.
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Post by Merge on Nov 27, 2016 14:46:29 GMT
I know exactly what you mean. I was raised in a large extended family where the approval of family was very important. I agree with M in Carolina that it often has to do with the parents' religious views. As an adult, my parents only approved of me/showed their love as long as I was involved in and raising my kids in the "right" church. We were Catholic. DH and I chose to have our youngest baptized in an Episcopal church we had been attending, and my parents didn't even attend. All the times I can remember Mom telling me how proud she was of me were when I had just done something Catholic-church-related.
My parents are gone now, and while I miss them in lots of ways, I don't miss that feeling of never being good enough because I couldn't believe exactly like they did.
I've taken some flack from a few family members over my political views in this election. One uncle commented, "What would your father say?" and an older cousin felt it necessary to let me know that she was, "Saddened I've fallen so far from my faith and family beliefs." Families try to make you seek their approval by making a point of withholding it when you step out of line - but I don't play that game any more. I would hope if my parents were still alive, that I would have the courage to sit them down and tell them as an adult that I would like for them to at least respect my choices.
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Post by LisaDV on Nov 27, 2016 14:47:44 GMT
Anyone want to weigh in on what they think the difference is between the two? To me they are different: Hypothetical situation. My dd gets pregnant out of wedlock at any age. I don't approve of the decision or actions leading to the situation, I would voice my disapproval over said actions once. Now move on, I will support my dd - I will be there to listen, hug, love doing what she needs to support her so that she has a great pregnancy. I don't approve of half the crap I've done in my own life. Approval can be difficult. But support is showing someone that you love them no matter what and that you'll always be there for them.
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Post by Merge on Nov 27, 2016 14:59:56 GMT
Forgot to weigh in on the support vs. approval thing. I think families should lend emotional support to each other's legal, non-destructive adult decisions, and keep quiet if they don't necessarily approve. An adult who chooses a career or religion or lifestyle that the parents don't approve of - but who is not harming anyone or being self-destructive in those decisions - should not have to listen to his/her adult family members talk ad nauseum about how they disapprove of their choice or deal with family members' coldness or absence. To me, that is emotional blackmail and not now people who love each other should act.
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Post by peasapie on Nov 27, 2016 15:28:03 GMT
"She's pretty opinionated and thinks she knows best."
My mom was like this, and it was difficult for me to step out from under that shadow. I often felt unsure of my own decisions, so my MO was to either keep decisions to myself - when possible - or to do what she thought was right.
As my kids grew older, I started using what was best for them as my north star, and it made it easier for me to stand up for what I felt was right, rather than needing her approval. There were times she fought me very hard on things, and we truly butted heads. (She didn't speak to me for many months when I stopped associating with my brother and family due to his behavior towards my children, for example.)
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Post by anonrefugee on Nov 27, 2016 16:20:31 GMT
I think they are different. But given the way many parents "discipline" older teens/college age adults it is no wonder the two feel the same. All you can do is ponder why you feel they are the same.. how your parents kept you in line between 16 and late tweenties will be a huge clue... then decide if you have other support groups available if they don't support you. Ha. Your typo made me laugh. It just feels like they are in their tweenties. HA! voltagain has coined the perfect term for those transitional snowflakes- whether she meant to or not!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 16:59:41 GMT
I seek acceptance with or without approval. Both to and from those closest to me.
I'm an adult. If I make a choice someone wants to beat me over the head with, I ask for acceptance that I know my own mind and heart. Acceptance that I am smart and capable.
Their approval of my choice isn't ever necessary for me.
And I try very hard to need nothing from them. What they choose to give is their choice and, in turn, accept that.
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