~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Dec 5, 2016 22:52:11 GMT
And I said "great".
I am so frustrated by how many times people come onto the plane with their arms full of bags and shove them all in the overhead. Which means , of course, that anyone unlucky enough to be assigned zone 5 has to check their carry on because there's no more room.
This all started when airlines began charging for checked luggage. Now they're cracking down on those who abuse the carry ons. As someone who always carries on my purse and a small bag, I'm happy to see this.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 5, 2016 22:56:45 GMT
This is why I fly Southwest whenever possible...2 bags free
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Post by jennyap on Dec 5, 2016 22:59:51 GMT
Enh. If they would actually enforce the supposed rules they already have in place for carry-on bags, they wouldn't need to do this. Usual penalise the many instead of dealing with the few crap.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Dec 5, 2016 23:00:07 GMT
I fly United a lot. If you check your bag at the curb or ticket desk, you pay. If you drag it through the airport and then--oh, surprise, full flight--they check it for free. Tell me why anyone would pay?
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Post by myshelly on Dec 5, 2016 23:03:40 GMT
I only fly Southwest. Bags are free. I never fly with just a carry on.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Dec 5, 2016 23:05:51 GMT
Enh. If they would actually enforce the supposed rules they already have in place for carry-on bags, they wouldn't need to do this. Usual penalise the many instead of dealing with the few crap. The problem is, who should enforce it? My cousin is a flight attendant and he says that during the boarding process, they really don't have the time to police people and what they're carrying on. No, I have no problem paying a bit more. Of course, people can always just make sure they carry on a bag that can fit under their seat. No charge for those.
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Post by Merge on Dec 5, 2016 23:06:04 GMT
I miss Continental.
We only fly Southwest unless we're going overseas, and then it usually has to be United. And we hate them with a fiery passion. And no, we're not carry-on abusers.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Dec 5, 2016 23:06:58 GMT
Southwest doesn't allow you to reserve a seat. I think it's insane to have to make a mad dash to get into the right zone to get a seat you want.
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Post by Merge on Dec 5, 2016 23:08:24 GMT
Southwest doesn't allow you to reserve a seat. I think it's insane to have to make a mad dash to get into the right zone to get a seat you want. That's not how it works at all. You're assigned your boarding position when you make your reservation. Pay a little extra and you're in the A group every time.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Dec 5, 2016 23:08:27 GMT
I've never been able to get a good deal on southwest, even with free bags. Allegiant already charges for overhead bins. One of the very (very) few things I love about them.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Dec 5, 2016 23:09:46 GMT
Southwest doesn't allow you to reserve a seat. I think it's insane to have to make a mad dash to get into the right zone to get a seat you want. That's not how it works at all. You're assigned your boarding position when you make your reservation. Pay a little extra and you're in the A group every time. Got it. But in the end, you're paying extra anyway, right? So I don't see any difference. Then again, Southwest doesn't fly out of any of the airports I use.
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Post by myshelly on Dec 5, 2016 23:10:16 GMT
Southwest doesn't allow you to reserve a seat. I think it's insane to have to make a mad dash to get into the right zone to get a seat you want. I actually stress less about my family getting seats together on SW than I do on airlines that allow you to "reserve" seats. Too many horror stories about picking out a seat online and then having your seat assignment changed by the airline. On SW it's in my own hands. On all the flights we've been on it's been incredibly organized. No one is rushing or dashing anywhere because you go in numerical order. Getting in line faster won't help you. If my number is lower I'm still getting in front of you.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Dec 5, 2016 23:11:49 GMT
I've never had that happened to me. Ever.
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Post by myshelly on Dec 5, 2016 23:13:51 GMT
That's not how it works at all. You're assigned your boarding position when you make your reservation. Pay a little extra and you're in the A group every time. Got it. But in the end, you're paying extra anyway, right? So I don't see any difference. Then again, Southwest doesn't fly out of any of the airports I use. The fee to get in the A group ($12.50) is a lot less than the fee to check 2 bags per person.
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Post by *KAS* on Dec 5, 2016 23:14:37 GMT
Enh. If they would actually enforce the supposed rules they already have in place for carry-on bags, they wouldn't need to do this. Usual penalise the many instead of dealing with the few crap. The problem is, who should enforce it? My cousin is a flight attendant and he says that during the boarding process, they really don't have the time to police people and what they're carrying on. No, I have no problem paying a bit more. Of course, people can always just make sure they carry on a bag that can fit under their seat. No charge for those. The gate agent. And I have seen them do it. All you have to do is say "if you have more than 2 items, you'll be asked to wait to board until the end, and we'll need to check any more than 2 items. Pull your medications and your batteries out, or start combining now." And then actually do it. "Ma'am, you have a carry on, a briefcase and a shopping bag. Either combine it to 2, or you'll need to step to the side so we can check one." It's not that hard, but it's not enforced often, so nobody bothers to comply.
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Post by *KAS* on Dec 5, 2016 23:19:24 GMT
Got it. But in the end, you're paying extra anyway, right? So I don't see any difference. Then again, Southwest doesn't fly out of any of the airports I use. The fee to get in the A group ($12.50) is a lot less than the fee to check 2 bags per person. But many of us are business travelers and (a) can't expense 'upgrades' like early check in ($12.50 isn't a lot on its own, but is when you fly 50+ times a year), (b) don't have to pay to check our bags with our frequently used airlines, and (c) need more routes than Southwest serves. I live in Atlanta, so I fly Delta. I can get pretty much anywhere in the world on a direct flight, and I've never had the airline change my seat without my knowledge (the one exception being if there was an equipment change).
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Post by papersilly on Dec 5, 2016 23:19:27 GMT
And I said "great". I am so frustrated by how many times people come onto the plane with their arms full of bags and shove them all in the overhead. Which means , of course, that anyone unlucky enough to be assigned zone 5 has to check their carry on because there's no more room. This all started when airlines began charging for checked luggage. Now they're cracking down on those who abuse the carry ons. As someone who always carries on my purse and a small bag, I'm happy to see this. are you talking about the people with the 1) purse 2) laptop bag 3) large shopping bag from Pottery Barn, Crate and Barrel, etc AND 4) the rolling luggage? those people annoy me too. grrrrrr. such abuse of the bins! I hope they do get charged for the excess carry ons. it's not fair to those of us who have one roll luggage and the purse or backpack that goes under the seat.
ETA: perfect timing that my complaint post turned out to be my Drama Llama 5,000th post. I didn't even realize it until the notice came up after I posted. LOL.
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 5, 2016 23:35:08 GMT
The fee to get in the A group ($12.50) is a lot less than the fee to check 2 bags per person. But many of us are business travelers and (a) can't expense 'upgrades' like early check in ($12.50 isn't a lot on its own, but is when you fly 50+ times a year), (b) don't have to pay to check our bags with our frequently used airlines, and (c) need more routes than Southwest serves. I live in Atlanta, so I fly Delta. I can get pretty much anywhere in the world on a direct flight, and I've never had the airline change my seat without my knowledge (the one exception being if there was an equipment change). the delta works for you. We fly almost exclusively southwest for all the reasons abovementioned if you can't pay the early check-in, just make sure to check as close to 2t hours previous as you can. I find sw to be our cheapest option and we have never had a problem. Of course. I live near Denver which is a hub.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 23:45:57 GMT
And I said "great". I am so frustrated by how many times people come onto the plane with their arms full of bags and shove them all in the overhead. Which means , of course, that anyone unlucky enough to be assigned zone 5 has to check their carry on because there's no more room. This all started when airlines began charging for checked luggage. Now they're cracking down on those who abuse the carry ons. As someone who always carries on my purse and a small bag, I'm happy to see this. My thoughts exactly! We pay to check our luggage because I travel with my razor, medicines, soap, etc. and then someone else comes on the plane with 37 pieces of crap with them. I carry a Vera Bradley briefcase with my computer onboard and it fits under the seat in front of me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 23:58:26 GMT
Enh. If they would actually enforce the supposed rules they already have in place for carry-on bags, they wouldn't need to do this. Usual penalise the many instead of dealing with the few crap. The problem is, who should enforce it? My cousin is a flight attendant and he says that during the boarding process, they really don't have the time to police people and what they're carrying on. No, I have no problem paying a bit more. Of course, people can always just make sure they carry on a bag that can fit under their seat. No charge for those. So, if enforcement is an issue, how will they enforce this? Make the bins lockable and only those who've paid get the key? What if someone else is using it and someone sneaks their stuff in at the same time? It has to have a paid sticker? That means it needs to be enforced - someone will have to check that all the bags in the bin have a paid sticker. What if the sticker is on the back side of the bag? Take it out to check? Assume it's been paid? Seems like it would have been a lot easier to enforce the old rule than this new one.
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Post by threecs on Dec 6, 2016 0:04:47 GMT
I recently flew from Boston to Dallas and I would say 80 percent of the travelers carried on an overstuffed suitcase they then proceeded to jam into the overhead bin space. The plane ran out of overhead space very early in the boarding process.
I do think more people choose to carry on to avoid paying the baggage fees. It's a consequence of the airlines trying to nickel and dime everyone.
That said I get that it can take a while for your bags to come off the plane and into baggage claim. Logan is horrible about getting bags off planes/to baggage claim quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 0:08:10 GMT
This is why I fly Southwest whenever possible...2 bags free We drive from Syracuse to Buffalo just for this reason. That and its half the price to fly out of Buffalo.
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Post by Clair on Dec 6, 2016 0:08:51 GMT
if I understand correctly - if you fly basic economy, you are only allowed one small bag that will fit under the seats. If you fly other than basic economy - you can still bring your carry ons.
Looks like it will still need to beenforced at the gate by checking tickets and making sure if you have a carry on you ticket is not basic economy.
While I agree with the idea, there may be a slowdown at the gate when the basic economy ticket holders carry ons will need to be gate checked.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 6, 2016 0:09:55 GMT
This is why I fly Southwest whenever possible...2 bags free We drive from Syracuse to Buffalo just for this reason. That and its half the price to fly out of Buffalo. I am 20 mins from the Rochester airport and will drive to Buffalo!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 0:13:40 GMT
This is why I fly Southwest whenever possible...2 bags free We drive from Syracuse to Buffalo just for this reason. That and its half the price to fly out of Buffalo. I am 20 mins from the Rochester airport and will drive to Buffalo!!! We're in the same boat! We're 20 minutes from our airport too! I'd rather pay for a half tank of gas than thousands of dollars on a flight with multiple stops when I can fly straight through from Buffalo.
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Post by basketdiva on Dec 6, 2016 0:16:31 GMT
if I understand correctly - if you fly basic economy, you are only allowed one small bag that will fit under the seats. If you fly other than basic economy - you can still bring your carry ons. Looks like it will still need to beenforced at the gate by checking tickets and making sure if you have a carry on you ticket is not basic economy. While I agree with the idea, there may be a slowdown at the gate when the basic economy ticket holders carry ons will need to be gate checked. It's my understanding that anyone with the basic economy ticket will board last. As long as the gate attendants keep those with a basic ticket from boarding in the wrong group, there should be no problem. If people don't buy the tickets or if it causes boarding problems, it will go away. The airlines need to enforce the rules they have established.
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Post by Clair on Dec 6, 2016 0:18:58 GMT
Thanks basketdiva. That boarding method makes more sense.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Dec 6, 2016 0:21:49 GMT
Southwest doesn't allow you to reserve a seat. I think it's insane to have to make a mad dash to get into the right zone to get a seat you want. I actually stress less about my family getting seats together on SW than I do on airlines that allow you to "reserve" seats. Too many horror stories about picking out a seat online and then having your seat assignment changed by the airline. On SW it's in my own hands. On all the flights we've been on it's been incredibly organized. No one is rushing or dashing anywhere because you go in numerical order. Getting in line faster won't help you. If my number is lower I'm still getting in front of you. I've been flying 31 years and I don't know of a single person, myself included, this has ever happened to.
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Post by jennyap on Dec 6, 2016 0:26:10 GMT
The problem is, who should enforce it? My cousin is a flight attendant and he says that during the boarding process, they really don't have the time to police people and what they're carrying on. No, I have no problem paying a bit more. Of course, people can always just make sure they carry on a bag that can fit under their seat. No charge for those. So, if enforcement is an issue, how will they enforce this? Make the bins lockable and only those who've paid get the key? What if someone else is using it and someone sneaks their stuff in at the same time? It has to have a paid sticker? That means it needs to be enforced - someone will have to check that all the bags in the bin have a paid sticker. What if the sticker is on the back side of the bag? Take it out to check? Assume it's been paid? Seems like it would have been a lot easier to enforce the old rule than this new one. Exactly. It will need to be enforced both at the gate - have all bags too large to fit under seats been paid for, if not take payment or check them then - and on the plane - are all bags in the bins the paid for bags (sometime people put things that would fit under a seat in an overhead bin), if not identify the owner and return the item to them. Double the work that they can't even manage now it seems. Plus people in emergency exit rows aren't allowed anything under their seat - will they be allowed to put small items in the bins for free? Then you have to have a way to distinguish between their unpaid but permitted items and other unpaid but not permitted items. As a consumer I don't much care, I'll continue to choose the flights/airlines that give the best value to me - not always the cheapest. But as a business decision? From where I'm sitting, it doesn't look to stack up.
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Post by Zee on Dec 6, 2016 0:28:16 GMT
Won't make any difference to me, they always gate check my bag anyway. I always seem to be among the last to board and am always told the overhead bin is full, whether it is or isn't.
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