trollie
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 0:52:03 GMT
right out of the gate?!?!?!!
I saw a couple of posts with this hastag and just figured it had something to do with Trump's garish decorating style.... I am not sheltered, and I have heard this sexual term before, but seriously did not go there the first, second or third time I saw it. Am I the only one?
(Trying out the new label the admin set up.)
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seaexplore
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 13, 2017 0:53:14 GMT
I have no clue what the hell is going on with Trump and golden showers. Like you, I know what it means. BUT- Was there a news story? Some "leak" of info?
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Post by Zee on Jan 13, 2017 0:57:10 GMT
Well, supposedly, the Russians have compromising video of him paying for Russian prostitutes to tinkle on each other for his viewing pleasure, but I'm not going to put much stock in that right now. And in any case, there are way bigger things to worry about with Trump than some sexual fantasy involving what I'll assume are consenting adults.
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trollie
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 0:58:08 GMT
I have no clue what the hell is going on with Trump and golden showers. Like you, I know what it means. BUT- Was there a news story? Some "leak" of info? Yes.... Supposedly this is one of the things the Russians have on Trump. Seriously, not something I need to know about. Perhaps Vladdy needs to steal the phrase: "What happens in Russian, stays in Russia."
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trollie
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 1:05:11 GMT
Well, supposedly, the Russians have compromising video of him paying for Russian prostitutes to tinkle on each other for his viewing pleasure, but I'm not going to put much stock in that right now. And in any case, there are way bigger things to worry about with Trump than some sexual fantasy involving what I'll assume are consenting adults. Yep. I totally agree. I do not want to know what this guy does in the bedroom!
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Post by missfrenchjessica on Jan 13, 2017 1:08:08 GMT
Nope.
I know what golden showers are... I just didn't understand the context when used about Trump especially since I'd just read about the CNN article. It just didn't seem to go together.
I'm glad someone explained it to me or I would have forever been scratching my head.
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Post by berty on Jan 13, 2017 1:20:06 GMT
Just to expand a little. I read that, as stated before, Russia has video of Trump doing this with some "ladies of the night". However, if I understand correctly, he did this with them in the same hotel room suite and bed that the Obamas had used when staying in Russia, and that he did it as a slight against Mrs.Obama. Of course, this hasn't been verified yet. One can see a copy of the leaked memo on buzzfeed.com- assuming it hasn't been taken down as of yesterday.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 13, 2017 1:26:15 GMT
I don't think this is true at all.
Honestly, golden showers aren't that shocking. They aren't very out there as far as fetishes go.
Surely if the Russians have something on Trump, it's something more shocking than this.
Yawn.
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Post by bethquiroz on Jan 13, 2017 1:27:53 GMT
But imagine if it was an alleged tape of Bill Clinton instead of Donald Trump - can you imagine the uproar?
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eleezybeth
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Post by eleezybeth on Jan 13, 2017 2:21:13 GMT
I don't think this is true at all. Honestly, golden showers aren't that shocking. They aren't very out there as far as fetishes go. Surely if the Russians have something on Trump, it's something more shocking than this. Yawn. A married man representing the right wing fanatics who want to defend marriage is saying this is okay because it's just not that far out as a fetish goes? What sort of logic is this?
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trollie
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 2:26:15 GMT
But imagine if it was an alleged tape of Bill Clinton instead of Donald Trump - can you imagine the uproar? OMG. If something like this would have been found about Bill Clinton, while he was in office, not only would we never hear the end of it from his haters, HRC would have been vilified, yet again, for not leaving her husband if she chose to continue her marriage with him.
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trollie
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 2:26:52 GMT
I don't think this is true at all. Honestly, golden showers aren't that shocking. They aren't very out there as far as fetishes go. Surely if the Russians have something on Trump, it's something more shocking than this. Yawn. TMI, my friend. TMI.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 13, 2017 2:26:54 GMT
I don't think this is true at all. Honestly, golden showers aren't that shocking. They aren't very out there as far as fetishes go. Surely if the Russians have something on Trump, it's something more shocking than this. Yawn. A married man representing the right wing fanatics who want to defend marriage is saying this is okay because it's just not that far out as a fetish goes? What sort of logic is this? I'm not sure I understand you. You're responding to me as if I'm quoting Trump?
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 13, 2017 2:31:34 GMT
Any sort of sexual behavior outside of a marriage would likely cost anyone else their security clearance (ask David Patraeus) but sure, Trump is exempt. And let's not forget the other issues, allegations of financial ties and people within his campaign being in direct contact with Russian officials.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 13, 2017 2:34:35 GMT
Any sort of sexual behavior outside of a marriage would likely cost anyone else their security clearance (ask David Patraeus) but sure, Trump is exempt. And let's not forget the other issues, allegations of financial ties and people within his campaign being in direct contact with Russian officials. You do recall Monical Lewinsky right?
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Post by **Angie** on Jan 13, 2017 2:35:22 GMT
right out of the gate?!?!?!! I saw a couple of posts with this hastag and just figured it had something to do with Trump's garish decorating style.... I am not sheltered, and I have heard this sexual term before, but seriously did not go there the first, second or third time I saw it. Am I the only one? (Trying out the new label the admin set up.) We need to take away your Pea cred. You should automatically always go "there"!
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Jan 13, 2017 2:38:58 GMT
I suppose we are going to have to explain pearl necklaces too?
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 13, 2017 2:39:09 GMT
Any sort of sexual behavior outside of a marriage would likely cost anyone else their security clearance (ask David Patraeus) but sure, Trump is exempt. And let's not forget the other issues, allegations of financial ties and people within his campaign being in direct contact with Russian officials. You do recall Monical Lewinsky right? Do you mean Bill Clinton? Monica was an unmarried intern with no security clearance I don't think. He was impeached if memory serves.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 13, 2017 2:42:43 GMT
You do recall Monical Lewinsky right? Do you mean Bill Clinton? Monica was an unmarried intern with no security clearance I don't think. He was impeached if memory serves. You stated "Any sort of sexual behavior outside of a marriage would likely cost anyone else their security clearance (ask David Patraeus) but sure, Trump is exempt" By any stretch of rewriting history, one could not fail to acknowledge Bill Clinton engaged in sexual behavior outside of marriage. He did not lose his security clearance - thus he too was "exempt."
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trollie
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Post by trollie on Jan 13, 2017 2:50:56 GMT
Do you mean Bill Clinton? Monica was an unmarried intern with no security clearance I don't think. He was impeached if memory serves. You stated "Any sort of sexual behavior outside of a marriage would likely cost anyone else their security clearance (ask David Patraeus) but sure, Trump is exempt" By any stretch of rewriting history, one could not fail to acknowledge Bill Clinton engaged in sexual behavior outside of marriage. He did not lose his security clearance - thus he too was "exempt." But he was not "exempt" in the eyes of his opponents. They went after him relentlessly. Will be interesting to see if Trump's supporters will give two figs about this if it is found to be true.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 13, 2017 2:54:32 GMT
You stated "Any sort of sexual behavior outside of a marriage would likely cost anyone else their security clearance (ask David Patraeus) but sure, Trump is exempt" By any stretch of rewriting history, one could not fail to acknowledge Bill Clinton engaged in sexual behavior outside of marriage. He did not lose his security clearance - thus he too was "exempt." But he was not "exempt" in the eyes of his opponents. They went after him relentlessly. Will be interesting to see if Trump's supporters will give two figs about this if it is found to be true. I think the only way this has traction is video. The American public LOVES video. But I'll be honest - if the Extra! video and the Howard Stern tapes were non-issues - I really don't see what kind of dirt one would need on Trump to be blackmail-able.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 13, 2017 3:03:00 GMT
But he was not "exempt" in the eyes of his opponents. They went after him relentlessly. Will be interesting to see if Trump's supporters will give two figs about this if it is found to be true. I think the only way this has traction is video. The American public LOVES video. But I'll be honest - if the Extra! video and the Howard Stern tapes were non-issues - I really don't see what kind of dirt one would need on Trump to be blackmail-able. Yep. That's what I think. This man has been married multiple times. He's cheated. He's divorced multiple times. No one thinks he is a defender of marriage. If allegations of groping underage contestants at Miss Universe and his own confession of grabbing women "by the pussy" against their will had no effect on him, how would another country be able to blackmail him with a little watersport action? It makes zero sense. I assumed whatever Russia had on him was much, much bigger/worse/explicit. In fact, I wonder if this is the red herring his own team started to cover up whatever it actually is. A little pee play surely wouldn't be enough for the president elect to capitulate to another country's will (although perhaps I'm overestimating him).
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 13, 2017 3:11:31 GMT
I think the only way this has traction is video. The American public LOVES video. But I'll be honest - if the Extra! video and the Howard Stern tapes were non-issues - I really don't see what kind of dirt one would need on Trump to be blackmail-able. Yep. That's what I think. This man has been married multiple times. He's cheated. He's divorced multiple times. No one thinks he is a defender of marriage. If allegations of groping underage contestants at Miss Universe and his own confession of grabbing women "by the pussy" against their will had no effect on him, how would another country be able to blackmail him with a little watersport action? It makes zero sense. I assumed whatever Russia had on him was much, much bigger/worse/explicit. In fact, I wonder if this is the red herring his own team started to cover up whatever it actually is.A little pee play surely wouldn't be enough for the president elect to capitulate to another country's will (although perhaps I'm overestimating him). Hmmmm - I'll play. I was actually surprised when I read the BuzzFeed article that it discussed Russia trying to bribe him with lucrative real estate and business deals - but for "reasons unknown he refused". I thought to myself - well hell at least the bastard didn't take the Russian money, perhaps he's not quite as opportunistic as people feared. A red herring.... maybe
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Post by berty on Jan 13, 2017 3:51:18 GMT
I was watching an ABC news story about Russia setting up another foreigner and recording video of it. I honestly wasn't paying too much attention until they played a clip and said the Russians put a musical soundtrack along to the video before releasing it.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 13, 2017 6:16:10 GMT
Surely if the Russians have something on Trump, it's something more shocking than this. I think that's the main point. Whether the golden showers thing is actually true or not doesn't really matter, I think there *is* something bigger they have on Trump and this was the warning shot "look what we could do to you".
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teddyw
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Post by teddyw on Jan 13, 2017 11:23:50 GMT
If they have something big on him I wish they'd just release it and put us all out of our misery.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 13, 2017 11:55:26 GMT
Well, supposedly, the Russians have compromising video of him paying for Russian prostitutes to tinkle on each other for his viewing pleasure Is that why Trump was making a big deal about Russia having tiny cameras that you can't even see during his conference?
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Jan 13, 2017 15:33:35 GMT
If they have something big on him I wish they'd just release it and put us all out of our misery. If they release it they lose there power over him. I do think this was the warning shot and much bigger issues are at play. Rumors I have read include Russia holding yyuge debts of his. If previous escapades of his are an indication I would think it would have to be bigger than prostitution tapes.
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Post by gar on Jan 13, 2017 15:52:32 GMT
Well, supposedly, the Russians have compromising video of him paying for Russian prostitutes to tinkle on each other for his viewing pleasure Is that why Trump was making a big deal about Russia having tiny cameras that you can't even see during his conference? Yup, there by proving that it can't be true about him being filmed because he knows about these things!! See?
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Post by anonrefugee on Jan 13, 2017 17:19:43 GMT
Whether it's true or not, Trump's previously conversations and personality have made it plausible. This is sad by itself. Whether we were supporters or not, most (many?) US citizens would have stood behind previous Presidents if they faced these accusations. And I can only think of one in recent years that would have given legs to the rumors.
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