flute4peace
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 29, 2017 15:40:37 GMT
*** political***
I've never understood the purpose of people like Trump who just seem to want to make the world a miserable place. I mean, does his ego not realize that he's on the brink of destroying the free world as we know it?
What is his desired result, besides being king of the world? That if the world's gonna end by gosh it's gonna be HIM that did it?
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Post by Outspoken on Jan 29, 2017 15:46:06 GMT
This probably needs the POLITICAL tag.
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Post by laureljean on Jan 29, 2017 16:18:17 GMT
I think the word "ego" is the key. He seems entirely ego-driven. Not a good thing.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 29, 2017 16:58:47 GMT
I honestly think he doesn't understand the concept of consequences.
Not a good husband? No big deal, get another wife
Make bad business decisions? No big deal, put that business in bankruptcy and start another
Not a good dad? No big deal, ignore that kid you don't like and have another with someone else
He has never in his life had to follow through with a decision or deal with any consequences of his actions. His whole life is a series of walking away from things when they don't go his way.
I truly believe that it doesn't occur to him that his actions as president will have repercussions from other countries. That's what makes him so incomprehensibly dangerous and scary.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jan 29, 2017 17:04:23 GMT
I don't think he wants to make the world a more miserable place. His ego believes he knows what is best, and can make it better than anyone.
Unfortunately he fails to recognize his definition of better creates misery for others.
I think it's born out of deep seated insecurity, but that's another thread. He takes any difference of opinion as a personal slight.
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Post by marianne on Jan 29, 2017 17:53:21 GMT
...does his ego not realize... He can't get beyond his ego... that's the problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 18:04:26 GMT
He's an egomaniac and a narcissist and until he himself recognizes this fact and admits it there's nothing anyone can do for him.It's a bit like an alcoholic, until that person themselves admits they have a problem they will carry on drinking and to hell with the consequences because "they" don't think they're doing anything wrong. Same with Trump, he will ALWAYS be right and everyone else is wrong in his mind.
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 30, 2017 15:40:52 GMT
I honestly think he doesn't understand the concept of consequences. Not a good husband? No big deal, get another wife Make bad business decisions? No big deal, put that business in bankruptcy and start another Not a good dad? No big deal, ignore that kid you don't like and have another with someone else He has never in his life had to follow through with a decision or deal with any consequences of his actions. His whole life is a series of walking away from things when they don't go his way. I truly believe that it doesn't occur to him that his actions as president will have repercussions from other countries. That's what makes him so incomprehensibly dangerous and scary. This is insightful. I think you're absolutely right. |
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 30, 2017 15:42:46 GMT
This probably needs the POLITICAL tag. Oh dear, yes it absolutely does! I started it from my phone & didn't even think about it. I'll see if I can still add it from the computer. Thanks for the catch  |
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Post by anonrefugee on Jan 30, 2017 15:51:45 GMT
Part of me thinks he's pushing all these EOs knowing they won't be enacted because others will find a way to stop them. This way he gets to say he kept his campaign promises, and their failure wasn't his fault.
He's egotistical to overlook the the turmoil caused in order to not admit he is wrong.
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Post by imsirius on Jan 30, 2017 16:26:04 GMT
Sociopaths are usually defined as people displaying anti social behavior which is mainly characterized by lack of empathy towards others that is coupled with display of abnormal moral conduct and inability to conform with the norms of the society. People suffering from antisocial personality disorder are often referred to as sociopaths. Some of the other characteristics that sociopaths may display are stealing, lying, lack of remorse for others and towards living beings, irresponsible behavior, impulsive behavior, drug or alcohol abuse, problems with the law, violating rights of others, aggressive behavior and much more.
Sociopaths are often unable to control their behavior and their expressions of annoyance, irritability and threats when faced with situations not appealing to them and they often tend to resort to threats, aggression and verbal abuse. Though no person is born with this disorder, the sociopathic personality disorder does involve a history of persistent anti social behavior during childhood before the age of 15 and if left untreated, this disorder continues into adulthood too. Sociopaths could also have been influenced by various environmental factors around the age of 15 that is also one of the main reasons for this disorder in individuals. Some of the environmental factors can include deprivation, sexual abuse, abandonment, emotional abuse, association with people who are antisocial, physical abuse and others. Though there are no distinct biological causes that have been identified as the main cause for this disorder, research suggest that for people suffering from sociopathic personality disorder, the part of the brain that is mainly responsible for an individual’s learning from his or her own mistakes and responding to fearful and sad facial expressions tends to be smaller than in a normal individual. Researchers believe that this may be the reason for lack of empathy towards others. There are theories that also indicate that hormonal fluctuations also have a role to play in this disorder, however the links have not been directly established.
People suffering from Sociopathic disorders tend to be superficially charming. They also tend to display behavior which include manipulation of people around them, desire to be in control of everything and everyone around them that usually leads to grave consequences and shallow emotions.
For a person to be diagnosed as a sociopath he or she must have at least three or more of the below mentioned symptoms
Displays heightened levels of deceitfulness in dealings with others, which involves lying, conning others without remorse, or even using aliases
Inability to abide by the social norms and thus violating law
Displays aggressiveness and often tends to get into assaults and physical fights
Displays complete lack of empathy for others and their situation for which they are responsible
Displays no feelings or shallow feelings
Displays impulsive behavior which is indicated by the inability to plan for the future
Displays no concern for safety of others around them or self
Inability to sustain a consistent behavior that stems mainly from irresponsibility especially at work place or in other dealings
Displays promiscuous behavior
Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions. Such people at times are also able to inspire like minded people.
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 30, 2017 17:26:18 GMT
Sociopaths are usually defined as people displaying anti social behavior which is mainly characterized by lack of empathy towards others that is coupled with display of abnormal moral conduct and inability to conform with the norms of the society. People suffering from antisocial personality disorder are often referred to as sociopaths. Some of the other characteristics that sociopaths may display are stealing, lying, lack of remorse for others and towards living beings, irresponsible behavior, impulsive behavior, drug or alcohol abuse, problems with the law, violating rights of others, aggressive behavior and much more.
Sociopaths are often unable to control their behavior and their expressions of annoyance, irritability and threats when faced with situations not appealing to them and they often tend to resort to threats, aggression and verbal abuse. Though no person is born with this disorder, the sociopathic personality disorder does involve a history of persistent anti social behavior during childhood before the age of 15 and if left untreated, this disorder continues into adulthood too. Sociopaths could also have been influenced by various environmental factors around the age of 15 that is also one of the main reasons for this disorder in individuals. Some of the environmental factors can include deprivation, sexual abuse, abandonment, emotional abuse, association with people who are antisocial, physical abuse and others. Though there are no distinct biological causes that have been identified as the main cause for this disorder, research suggest that for people suffering from sociopathic personality disorder, the part of the brain that is mainly responsible for an individual’s learning from his or her own mistakes and responding to fearful and sad facial expressions tends to be smaller than in a normal individual. Researchers believe that this may be the reason for lack of empathy towards others. There are theories that also indicate that hormonal fluctuations also have a role to play in this disorder, however the links have not been directly established.
People suffering from Sociopathic disorders tend to be superficially charming. They also tend to display behavior which include manipulation of people around them, desire to be in control of everything and everyone around them that usually leads to grave consequences and shallow emotions.
For a person to be diagnosed as a sociopath he or she must have at least three or more of the below mentioned symptoms Displays heightened levels of deceitfulness in dealings with others, which involves lying, conning others without remorse, or even using aliases Inability to abide by the social norms and thus violating law Displays aggressiveness and often tends to get into assaults and physical fights Displays complete lack of empathy for others and their situation for which they are responsible Displays no feelings or shallow feelings Displays impulsive behavior which is indicated by the inability to plan for the future Displays no concern for safety of others around them or self Inability to sustain a consistent behavior that stems mainly from irresponsibility especially at work place or in other dealings Displays promiscuous behavior Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions. Such people at times are also able to inspire like minded people. 
This gave me cold chills.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jan 30, 2017 18:10:39 GMT
I consider your OP to be more of the Henny Penny syndrome.
To many of us, your OP applies just as much to Obama as you claim it does to Trump.
Right now, the hysterics are very vocal. Those who supported Trump don't feel a need to say much about what he's doing as he already stated his intent in his campaign speeches. That's why they voted for him.
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Post by Mystie on Jan 30, 2017 19:37:31 GMT
^^^^^ speaking of sociopaths...^^^^^
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Post by peagia13 on Jan 30, 2017 19:39:01 GMT
You are giving him way way too much power and credit.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jan 30, 2017 19:52:02 GMT
Part of me thinks he's pushing all these EOs knowing they won't be enacted because others will find a way to stop them. This way he gets to say he kept his campaign promises, and their failure wasn't his fault. He's egotistical to overlook the the turmoil caused in order to not admit he is wrong. I wish I could believe he's that smart, I think in business, he makes grand statements. Big gestures and he leaves other people to figure out how to get them done. Or they come back with some form, probably often something that doesn't really look at all like he said he wanted, but his ego says, "yes that is just what I meant". For a very long time he has not been involved in the details. He is completely ignorant of how to govern. He is very thin skinned, has no understanding of how government works, is completely ignorant of the Constitution and the laws of this land, and has no idea of how the executive branch operates. Couple that with never operating within a system of checks and balances. And the fact that whenever he doesn't like the facts he just makes shit up. He is so far out of his depth it will take our countries a decade or more to undo the havoc he will wreak! |
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Post by artgirl1 on Jan 30, 2017 19:59:49 GMT
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Post by Laurie on Jan 30, 2017 20:05:00 GMT
^^^^^ speaking of sociopaths...^^^^^ Oh...wow. Didn't have you pegged as one of these type of peas.   |
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Post by compwalla on Jan 30, 2017 20:08:00 GMT
He's a dangerous lunatic and anyone who insists that what is happening is normal or routine or in any way ok is also a dangerous lunatic.
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Post by pierogi on Jan 30, 2017 20:30:03 GMT
Sociopaths are usually defined as people displaying anti social behavior which is mainly characterized by lack of empathy towards others that is coupled with display of abnormal moral conduct and inability to conform with the norms of the society. People suffering from antisocial personality disorder are often referred to as sociopaths. Some of the other characteristics that sociopaths may display are stealing, lying, lack of remorse for others and towards living beings, irresponsible behavior, impulsive behavior, drug or alcohol abuse, problems with the law, violating rights of others, aggressive behavior and much more.
Sociopaths are often unable to control their behavior and their expressions of annoyance, irritability and threats when faced with situations not appealing to them and they often tend to resort to threats, aggression and verbal abuse. Though no person is born with this disorder, the sociopathic personality disorder does involve a history of persistent anti social behavior during childhood before the age of 15 and if left untreated, this disorder continues into adulthood too. Sociopaths could also have been influenced by various environmental factors around the age of 15 that is also one of the main reasons for this disorder in individuals. Some of the environmental factors can include deprivation, sexual abuse, abandonment, emotional abuse, association with people who are antisocial, physical abuse and others. Though there are no distinct biological causes that have been identified as the main cause for this disorder, research suggest that for people suffering from sociopathic personality disorder, the part of the brain that is mainly responsible for an individual’s learning from his or her own mistakes and responding to fearful and sad facial expressions tends to be smaller than in a normal individual. Researchers believe that this may be the reason for lack of empathy towards others. There are theories that also indicate that hormonal fluctuations also have a role to play in this disorder, however the links have not been directly established.
People suffering from Sociopathic disorders tend to be superficially charming. They also tend to display behavior which include manipulation of people around them, desire to be in control of everything and everyone around them that usually leads to grave consequences and shallow emotions.
For a person to be diagnosed as a sociopath he or she must have at least three or more of the below mentioned symptoms Displays heightened levels of deceitfulness in dealings with others, which involves lying, conning others without remorse, or even using aliases Inability to abide by the social norms and thus violating law Displays aggressiveness and often tends to get into assaults and physical fights Displays complete lack of empathy for others and their situation for which they are responsible Displays no feelings or shallow feelings Displays impulsive behavior which is indicated by the inability to plan for the future Displays no concern for safety of others around them or self Inability to sustain a consistent behavior that stems mainly from irresponsibility especially at work place or in other dealings Displays promiscuous behavior Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions. Such people at times are also able to inspire like minded people. Bannon also qualifies. I'd wager Flynn does as well. |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 30, 2017 20:33:30 GMT
Sociopaths are usually defined as people displaying anti social behavior which is mainly characterized by lack of empathy towards others that is coupled with display of abnormal moral conduct and inability to conform with the norms of the society. People suffering from antisocial personality disorder are often referred to as sociopaths. Some of the other characteristics that sociopaths may display are stealing, lying, lack of remorse for others and towards living beings, irresponsible behavior, impulsive behavior, drug or alcohol abuse, problems with the law, violating rights of others, aggressive behavior and much more.
Sociopaths are often unable to control their behavior and their expressions of annoyance, irritability and threats when faced with situations not appealing to them and they often tend to resort to threats, aggression and verbal abuse. Though no person is born with this disorder, the sociopathic personality disorder does involve a history of persistent anti social behavior during childhood before the age of 15 and if left untreated, this disorder continues into adulthood too. Sociopaths could also have been influenced by various environmental factors around the age of 15 that is also one of the main reasons for this disorder in individuals. Some of the environmental factors can include deprivation, sexual abuse, abandonment, emotional abuse, association with people who are antisocial, physical abuse and others. Though there are no distinct biological causes that have been identified as the main cause for this disorder, research suggest that for people suffering from sociopathic personality disorder, the part of the brain that is mainly responsible for an individual’s learning from his or her own mistakes and responding to fearful and sad facial expressions tends to be smaller than in a normal individual. Researchers believe that this may be the reason for lack of empathy towards others. There are theories that also indicate that hormonal fluctuations also have a role to play in this disorder, however the links have not been directly established.
People suffering from Sociopathic disorders tend to be superficially charming. They also tend to display behavior which include manipulation of people around them, desire to be in control of everything and everyone around them that usually leads to grave consequences and shallow emotions.
For a person to be diagnosed as a sociopath he or she must have at least three or more of the below mentioned symptoms Displays heightened levels of deceitfulness in dealings with others, which involves lying, conning others without remorse, or even using aliases Inability to abide by the social norms and thus violating law Displays aggressiveness and often tends to get into assaults and physical fights Displays complete lack of empathy for others and their situation for which they are responsible Displays no feelings or shallow feelings Displays impulsive behavior which is indicated by the inability to plan for the future Displays no concern for safety of others around them or self Inability to sustain a consistent behavior that stems mainly from irresponsibility especially at work place or in other dealings Displays promiscuous behavior Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions. Such people at times are also able to inspire like minded people. Bannon also qualifies. I'd wager Flynn does as well. Well you know what they say..like minded and all. |
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Post by pierogi on Jan 30, 2017 20:43:29 GMT
Bannon also qualifies. I'd wager Flynn does as well. Well you know what they say..like minded and all. Ayup. You have to wonder what kind of epic hell it would be work in the WH alongside those ghouls, if you had normal human impulses and a conscience. |
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Post by Mystie on Jan 30, 2017 20:44:06 GMT
^^^^^ speaking of sociopaths...^^^^^ Oh...wow. Didn't have you tagged as one of these type of peas. I'm sorry to disappoint you. Really. Every now and then my anger slips out despite my best efforts. |
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Post by Laurie on Jan 30, 2017 20:49:40 GMT
Oh...wow. Didn't have you tagged as one of these type of peas. I'm sorry to disappoint you. Really. Every now and then my anger slips out despite my best efforts. This is why I normally stay away from political threads. Anger comes out and I see other sides of peas. It happens. I get it. I think I need to stick with the WWYD threads. LOL |
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Post by imsirius on Jan 30, 2017 20:49:57 GMT
You mean the type of pea that she responded to?
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jan 30, 2017 21:51:39 GMT
^^^^^ speaking of sociopaths...^^^^^ Oh...wow. Didn't have you pegged as one of these type of peas. I did. It's not the first time from her. |
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Post by rickmer on Jan 30, 2017 22:25:42 GMT
OP, i don't know it's about, ego or narcissism or if he is a complete sociopath.... what i find confusing is the impression from his supporters that "we had to suck up obama, even though we disagreed and now you are just being whiny poor losers". millions of people around the world (on all 7 continents!) marched against the ideologies that this man has owned. do you really think the world is full of whiny losers who really have nothing better to do than give a crap about an american election or your party lines?? the outcry we have seen from so many different segments of the community, the outpouring of concerns raised by scientists, doctors, researchers, human right activists, artists, historians...is "UNPRESIDENTED". if there are concerns about terrorists from muslim countries, this travel ban is a sure-fire way to feed the terrorist groups some effective sounds bites for their propaganda to whip up anger against the u.s. his behaviour is dangerous to ALL americans but i certainly would NOT want to be an american abroad right now.  |
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Post by flute4peace on Jan 31, 2017 0:54:44 GMT
Oh...wow. Didn't have you pegged as one of these type of peas. I did. It's not the first time from her. I usually try to stay out of the personal stuff but feel compelled to comment on this one. Mystie is one of the least likely peas to lose her cool. She did this time. She also acknowledged it and apologized. |
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jan 31, 2017 4:21:12 GMT
She didn't apologize to me for making the nasty comment about me. She apologized that her ugliness disappointed another pea. And despite your experience with her, this is not the first time she's made a pissy or nasty comment to me. Hence my comment.
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Post by friendly on Jan 31, 2017 5:52:35 GMT
^^^^^ speaking of sociopaths...^^^^^ Oh...wow. Didn't have you pegged as one of these type of peas. What kind of pea would that be? An insightful one? One that can recognize abnormal social behavior? What's your point? |
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