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Post by ~Lauren~ on Feb 7, 2017 17:42:55 GMT
Pence broke the Senate tie.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Feb 7, 2017 17:46:15 GMT
I don't think that's a good thing. Nothing I've read points to her being a good Educational Secretary.  |
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Feb 7, 2017 17:50:10 GMT
As someone in favor of vouchers, I'm glad.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 7, 2017 17:50:35 GMT
Just read this. It makes me worry for all of my teacher friends and it makes me wonder what the 2018 will look like.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 7, 2017 17:51:24 GMT
Vouchers will work when everyone has access to all schools and there is accountability in all of them. Right now neither of those things happen.
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Post by pyccku on Feb 7, 2017 17:52:37 GMT
We already have a massive teacher shortage. This will not help.
I've got almost 22 years experience and I'm thinking this is a good time to start looking into something else. While the people may still value public education, the ruling class does not.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 7, 2017 17:53:18 GMT
Atrocities for American Children. We now have 100% proof that it literally pays to buy off congress.  |
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Post by myshelly on Feb 7, 2017 17:53:26 GMT
Our only hope now is a pack of angry centaurs.
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Post by lovetodigi on Feb 7, 2017 17:53:51 GMT
From all the polls that I have seen and comments on FB pages of Republican Senators, I don't think that they voted the will of the majority of their people. On this one, I think that the kids are going to pay the price of Washington being bought off by the big dollar donors. Trump could have easily found someone for that cabinet that has some experience in education. More of the bottom suckers from the bottom of the drained swamp, being put in high positions in the government. She should fit right in with the buddies from Wall Street that now helping to run the government. Good job. Glad that my kids are no longer in school, but I do worry about my grandkids.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 7, 2017 17:54:33 GMT
I'm sorry all the teachers, educators here. Republicans in Congress have proven to be spineless and self serving.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Feb 7, 2017 17:55:42 GMT
I'm not aware of a teacher shortage. In fact, there are many certified teachers who cannot find employment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 17:56:15 GMT
Remember, Remember, come the first Tuesday in November (2018)!
In the meantime, call, pay attention and DONATE TO OPPONENTS.
Money talks - everything else walks - right into Cabinet positions.
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Post by Anita on Feb 7, 2017 17:56:15 GMT
She should fit right in with the clusterfuck of a cabinet. I am really relieved that my last kid graduates from public school next year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 17:58:27 GMT
I'm not aware of a teacher shortage. In fact, there are many certified teachers who cannot find employment. Yup -we just laid a bunch off in our district due to (a much needed) consolidation. (WNY). And now we are anticipating a zero % tax increase in the school tax levy for the upcoming year. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 7, 2017 18:05:54 GMT
Our district coughed up a HUGE amount of property tax money in recent years specifically for funding our local public schools. It absolutely infuriates me to think that any of that money could possibly be siphoned off and spent on vouchers for religious private schools.  It will be no surprise if future referendums for our schools and kids will be voted down based on this one factor, and my kid and her classmates will ultimately be the ones who pay the price. |
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 7, 2017 18:06:23 GMT
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 7, 2017 18:07:24 GMT
She should fit right in with the clusterfuck of a cabinet. I am really relieved that my last kid graduates from public school next year. You're lucky then. My kid is in first grade.  |
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Post by ilikepink on Feb 7, 2017 18:09:11 GMT
I'm not sure why this one got to me more than any other cabinet positions. I couldn't even tell you who the prior education secretary was. This ignorance and lack of qualifications of her for this position really got to me; I did contact my senators, more than once.
Glad mine are done with school and I don't have grandchildren yet.
This whole thing really scares the crap out of me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 18:10:25 GMT
Definitely not a lack of money in WNY. And very nice benefits. I agree with people not wanting to go into teaching - but all the anti common core people got what they asked for.
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Post by mimi3566 on Feb 7, 2017 18:14:50 GMT
I'm not sure why this one got to me more than any other cabinet positions. I couldn't even tell you who the prior education secretary was. This ignorance and lack of qualifications of her for this position really got to me; I did contact my senators, more than once. Glad mine are done with school and I don't have grandchildren yet. This whole thing really scares the crap out of me. It should concern all of us regardless if you have children or grandchildren still in school. These kids that rely on public education are the next generation of doctors, teachers, politicians, etc....it effects everyone in one way or the other. |
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Post by Anita on Feb 7, 2017 18:15:45 GMT
She should fit right in with the clusterfuck of a cabinet. I am really relieved that my last kid graduates from public school next year. You're lucky then. My kid is in first grade. I'm really sorry. |
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 7, 2017 18:22:55 GMT
Definitely not a lack of money in WNY. And very nice benefits. I agree with people not wanting to go into teaching - but all the anti common core people got what they asked for. I don't know of too many people who actually liked Common Core on either side of the table. I taught it and didn't have a problem with it in most cases. To me, if you voted for Trump, you got what you asked for. |
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Post by melissa on Feb 7, 2017 18:24:50 GMT
Trump could have easily found someone for that cabinet that has some experience in education. Seriously. Does he not know a single contributor who attended public school for at least a short time? Or someone who once took a course on education? Maybe even someone who at least sold a product to public schools? (grasping for straws) As far as the teacher shortage, it is a regional issue which does affect our nation as a whole. If you live in an area where a teacher can actually support a family on a teacher's salary, you are less likely to see it. If you live in a place where a teacher's salary leaves a family of 4 at the poverty level, you are going to find a shortage. A friend posted teacher salaries in Oklahoma recently. It was shocking to me. Granted the cost of living is a lower there, but it's not that low. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 18:24:57 GMT
I agree 950nancy. Here in NY there is a lot of complaining about common core and testing, yet the voters keep voting in supporters of both. I don't get it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 18:27:11 GMT
melissa - trust me - in my district we were paying 6 figures for an art teacher. A high school art teacher. You are correct about regional pay differences, but this is a first ring suburb to one of the poorest cities in the nation.
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Post by carhoch on Feb 7, 2017 18:33:49 GMT
The era of big moneyed donors running Washington is alive a well
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Post by beachbum on Feb 7, 2017 18:34:17 GMT
I've never been so happy that I am a RETIRED teacher. I feel for my friends that are still teaching in the public schools. Where I taught there are no other choices. No charter schools, only one extremely expensive private school that is mostly boarding students with parents that can afford to send them there. This woman has no clue what it takes to actually teach. I would love give her the teacher's editions, a plan book, the curriculum and turn her loose in a classroom by herself for a month. No help, just what happens in the real world every day. Then see what she thinks about teachers then. I don't think she could do it.
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Post by imsirius on Feb 7, 2017 18:35:51 GMT
I'm sorry to all teachers and kids in America. I can't imagine what is going to happen.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 7, 2017 18:38:50 GMT
I am beyond livid over this. If ever there was a time to break party lines and do something in the best interest of the children in our country, this was it. And the majority of the republicans in this country failed miserably.
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Post by southerngirl on Feb 7, 2017 18:45:37 GMT
I am so sad about this. And I think it is incredibly shortsighted to support a nominee so lacking in basic qualifications just because you like vouchers and she supports them. There is so much more to education than vouchers. I guess vouchers much be terribly unpopular if they could not find a single qualified candidate that would also support vouchers.
We are going to have someone leading the Department of Education who is less qualified than a first year teacher.
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