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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 22:16:06 GMT
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I ran across the story below. It seems trump may have problems adjusting to his new job. Not in the story but I read that most nights he is alone once he leaves the Oval Office and spends his time glued to cable TV or calling "old friends". He doesn't like details but likes showing people around the Oval Office. If any of this is happening in the White House then it will be a very long 4 years. From Raw Story. "He doesn't like this shit; trump reportedly hates his job and his staff after less than a month." "After just three weeks on the job, President Donald Trump is reportedly frustrated with the realities of trying to run the U.S. government the way he manages his family-owned business. Politico interviewed nearly two dozen people who have spent time with the former real estate developer and reality TV star since his inauguration — and they said Trump’s “mood has careened between surprise and anger as he’s faced the predictable realities of governing,” according to the report. “The interviews paint a picture of a powder-keg of a workplace where job duties are unclear, morale among some is low, factionalism is rampant and exhaustion is running high,” Politico reported. “Two visitors to the White House last week said they were struck by how tired the staff looks.” Trump would like to shake up his White House staff less than a month into the job but knows it’s too soon, the website reported, and aides joke that the president would like to spend even more time golfing at his Mar-A-Lago resort. Sources close to Trump said he’s infuriated by the profusion of leaks revealing his confrontational phone calls with world leaders and the herky-jerky inner workings of the White House. The White House has launched an investigation of those leaks that appears to be focused on the National Security Council, based on the Politico report. NSC staffers have been instructed to cooperate with the inquiry, and the administration may tighten the inner circle of aides who have access to the calls and their transcripts, the website reported. A culture of fear and paranoia is developing, pitting the president and his allies against career NSC staff assigned from other agencies. The Trump circle believe those career bureaucrats are out to get them, while NSC staffers are concerned the president isn’t up to the job and resent the politicization of the agency by appointing Bannon to the council. Staffers fear Kushner because he’s so close to the president, and they aren’t really sure of his official role in the White House. For his part, Kushner is furious at reports that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has been saying he will join the White House as part of a “second wave” after the president’s son-in-law got him banished from the transition team as retribution for prosecuting his father. Sources said Trump often asks simple questions about his job, and he usually changes the subject when discussions become too detail-oriented to make it seem as if he’s in control, said one senior government official. Trump prefers to hand off detailed questions to his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, or to chief strategist Steve Bannon or House Speaker Paul Ryan, the website reported. Those sources also revealed that Trump has privately expressed disbelief that judges, bureaucrats and lawmakers are able to halt him from filling government positions or implementing policies. “He doesn’t like this sh*t,” a source told Politico, referring to the difficulties Trump faced in getting one of his top fundraisers, Anthony Scaramucci, appointed to a job in the West Wing. However, sources said Trump appears to enjoy showing visitors around the Oval Office, where he spends most of his working hours, and keeping tabs on how his staffers look on TV news."
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Post by papersilly on Feb 10, 2017 22:18:33 GMT
i'm pretty sure the job doesn't like him either
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 22:28:32 GMT
I hope he and his sycophantic cabinet picks learn a lot about life in their respective jobs. A LOT.
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Post by gardengoddess on Feb 10, 2017 22:38:36 GMT
I told my husband not long after the election that this clown has no idea how hard he's going to have to work. He's never worked that hard in his entire privileged life.
I give him 6 months before the "this is too hard" whining starts.
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 10, 2017 22:40:18 GMT
Most of the article repeatedly said sources said, these sources, two visitors,... While I don't doubt he's hard to work with, I felt like I was reading a link to an online tabloid magazine. It would have been nice if the article had more substance.
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Post by tracylynn on Feb 10, 2017 22:42:01 GMT
Most of the article repeatedly said sources said, these sources, two visitors,... While I don't doubt he's hard to work with, I felt like I was reading a link to an online tabloid magazine. It would have been nice if the article had more substance. The problem is you aren't going to get that here - people are afraid to speak out publicly. Look at how he treats sitting Senators for crying out loud. Would you want to be the person who spoke out against him? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 22:47:19 GMT
If it is a reputable newspaper/magazine the sources are vetted. They won't tell you who they are but THEY know who they are and are careful to ensure they are in positions where they would know what they are speaking about. People see "sources" and don't take time to understand what that means. handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=The_Essentials_of_Reuters_sourcing |
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 10, 2017 23:11:57 GMT
I would say that I believe what the article says from how he is behaving, but I would really like to hear it from his mouth. He does not seem suited for the job and it seems he didn't know what the President really did. I would hope he would step down if he is miserable. I am not a fan of Pence, but I would sleep better (for the most part) with Pence as President.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 10, 2017 23:13:54 GMT
Good. I hope he becomes so miserable that he quits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 23:28:36 GMT
You are not going to get any names until it doesn't matter.
But even if you discount the "sources" you get the idea there is a certain amount of truth in what was written.
Based on his past behavior I have witnessed in his interviews a lot of what is in the article makes sense.
The part about how he asks simple questions but doesn't like a lot of detail fits the observation he doesn't know what he is talking about half the time. To me he is being intellectually lazy with no curiosity about the job. Some have suggested it might be something else.
The part where he likes to show people around the Oval Office fits in with the rallies he likes where people are cheering and yelling his name. Both feed his ego. Which for him is a must.
I also think at some point he is going to find being president can be awfully confining. Something he may not adjust very well to.
Time will tell.
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Post by llinin on Feb 10, 2017 23:41:18 GMT
I'm not surprised. I hope he does resign. I voted for him but he absolutely was not my 1st (or even 2nd or 3rd) choice. Pence is a lot better suited to be President, I would have preferred him but no way he would've won. We've been guessing when it'll happen, sounds like maybe it'll be sooner than we thought! That's great!
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Post by terri on Feb 11, 2017 1:05:56 GMT
Sadly this was totally predictable.
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Post by annabella on Feb 11, 2017 1:09:20 GMT
My friend said that the real reason Melania is staying in NYC is because Trump never expected to win and doesn't see himself lasting long in the job so no point in interrupting Barron's schooling for this short stint.
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 11, 2017 1:09:59 GMT
I hope he gets impeached and I hope he taints Mike Pence and Paul Ryan in the process. They are all complicit in this shit storm and need to be taken down.
Wrap up the executive branch in impeachment hearings for a year or so, effectively halting all the destruction the self serving asswipes want to have done.
Stop the dismantling of the NPS, DOE, EPA, hell the Constitution.
Hate Obamacare? Want to try and fix it? Have at it, but don't screw millions of people in the process by repealing AND then looking for what to do next.
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Post by annabella on Feb 11, 2017 1:14:16 GMT
The "sources" are White House employees. Some of Obana's staff was left, secret service and household staff. There are plenty people in that building to observe his habits and whom he might say things to off hand.
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Post by scrapaddie on Feb 11, 2017 1:52:42 GMT
Maybe he will resign??
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Post by cade387 on Feb 11, 2017 1:55:32 GMT
"Winning was easy, young man. governing's harder"
It all comes back to Hamilton. Lol.
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Post by cycworker on Feb 11, 2017 2:01:55 GMT
I hope he gets impeached and I hope he taints Mike Pence and Paul Ryan in the process. They are all complicit in this shit storm and need to be taken down. Wrap up the executive branch in impeachment hearings for a year or so, effectively halting all the destruction the self serving asswipes want to have done. Stop the dismantling of the NPS, DOE, EPA, hell the Constitution. Hate Obamacare? Want to try and fix it? Have at it, but don't screw millions of people in the process by repealing AND then looking for what to do next. That's what I want. Impeachment, in that sense, would be better than a resignation. Either way, Pence is president, but impeachment takes time away from crappy aspects of agenda. Hence why they're likely waiting, sadly. |
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Post by trollie on Feb 11, 2017 2:06:39 GMT
As the old saying goes: Don't let the door hit ya...
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Post by icequeen on Feb 11, 2017 2:50:05 GMT
I hope he gets impeached and I hope he taints Mike Pence and Paul Ryan in the process. They are all complicit in this shit storm and need to be taken down. Wrap up the executive branch in impeachment hearings for a year or so, effectively halting all the destruction the self serving asswipes want to have done. That's what I want. Impeachment, in that sense, would be better than a resignation. Either way, Pence is president, but impeachment takes time away from crappy aspects of agenda. Hence why they're likely waiting, sadly. 's point about tying up the exec branch has me wondering who'd be in charge Trump gets impeached? If the VP is complicit, I'd assume that he couldn't have free reign while hearings were on going. Has this ever been an issue in US history? Other than Nixon, I can't remember a POTUS being removed or forced to resign from office. Now, to see both POTUS and his VEEP removed or reprimanded simultaneously is definitely one for the history books. SaveSave |
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Post by imsirius on Feb 11, 2017 2:50:21 GMT
I'm not sure he,d openly resign. He won't want to be seen as a failure. He won't admit he is wrong, how would he admit he can't handle the job he touted HRC so wrong for? Half his campaign was maligning her not fit and no stamina etc.
Nope, he will have to be impeached or he won't give up. He will stay the face and let Bannon and Kushner run things.
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Post by PLurker on Feb 11, 2017 2:58:37 GMT
I'm not sure he,d openly resign. He won't want to be seen as a failure. He won't admit he is wrong, how would he admit he can't handle the job he touted HRC so wrong for? Half his campaign was maligning her not fit and no stamina etc. Nope, he will have to be impeached or he won't give up. He will stay the face and let Bannon and Kushner run things.  He hates the job, sucks at the job BUT his narcissistic personality won't ever let him admit defeat. Or even being wrong in a simple argument or debate. Nothing. I see him as seeing no gray in ANYTHING. Black and white only. Or in his eyes, win or lose. I can almost seeing him personally imploding before he would admit defeat. |
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 11, 2017 2:59:37 GMT
I'm not sure he,d openly resign. He won't want to be seen as a failure. He won't admit he is wrong, how would he admit he can't handle the job he touted HRC so wrong for? Half his campaign was maligning her not fit and no stamina etc.
Nope, he will have to be impeached or he won't give up. He will stay the face and let Bannon and Kushner run things. [/quote] He would never resign. I had avoided watching him, but every time I say WTF?  ? THIS IS MY PRESIDENT? ?? He sounds like a freaking idiot! |
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Post by Sarah*H on Feb 11, 2017 3:05:10 GMT
Do you know that I have always considered you to be the quintessential independent pea? Not someone who claims to be moderate or independent but her real political alignment is plainly evident even though she herself can't see it. To me, you've always been someone who seems to fall squarely in the middle; liberal on some issues, conservative on others, not willing to give either side a pass on the bullshit. At times this has really irritated me when I wanted you to agree with my side's point of view but in the end, you've often make me take pause and think.
Keeping that in mind, your posts lately make me feel both vindicated and sad. It really IS this bad. There is no false-equivalency, both sides are equally guilty nonsense that some people continue to claim. I don't know where we go from here but I guess I find it hopeful and empowering that moderates and liberals are finally finding some common ground because that's probably where we'll find a path forward.
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Post by cycworker on Feb 11, 2017 3:05:23 GMT
See I think it depends how he can spin it. If he could do it in an, "I'm too good for this garbage. The country doesn't deserve me," way I could see him resigning. Because impeachment is an ego blow, too
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Post by imsirius on Feb 11, 2017 3:09:34 GMT
See I think it depends how he can spin it. If he could do it in an, "I'm too good for this garbage. The country doesn't deserve me," way I could see him resigning. Because impeachment is an bro blow, too I think if he is impeached, he can, and will, spin it as " none of them could handle my brilliance.." or even " they were brainwashed by the corrupt media" It won't be his fault either way. |
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 11, 2017 3:13:01 GMT
Do you know that I have always considered you to be the quintessential independent pea? Not someone who claims to be moderate or independent but her real political alignment is plainly evident even though she herself can't see it. To me, you've always been someone who seems to fall squarely in the middle; liberal on some issues, conservative on others, not willing to give either side a pass on the bullshit. At times this has really irritated me when I wanted you to agree with my side's point of view but in the end, you've often make me take pause and think. Keeping that in mind, your posts lately make me feel both vindicated and sad. It really IS this bad. There is no false-equivalency, both sides are equally guilty nonsense that some people continue to claim. I don't know where we go from here but I guess I find it hopeful and empowering that moderates and liberals are finally finding some common ground because that's probably where we'll find a path forward. awe, that is really sweet. I try my best to see both sides even if I don't always agree with either. My problem with his administration is that I don't feel it is for the good of the country. Even when I disagreed with Obama or Bush, I didn't doubt their love of the country. This one is just hard. |
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Post by PLurker on Feb 11, 2017 3:26:09 GMT
Do you know that I have always considered you to be the quintessential independent pea? Not someone who claims to be moderate or independent but her real political alignment is plainly evident even though she herself can't see it. To me, you've always been someone who seems to fall squarely in the middle; liberal on some issues, conservative on others, not willing to give either side a pass on the bullshit. At times this has really irritated me when I wanted you to agree with my side's point of view but in the end, you've often make me take pause and think. Keeping that in mind, your posts lately make me feel both vindicated and sad. It really IS this bad. There is no false-equivalency, both sides are equally guilty nonsense that some people continue to claim. I don't know where we go from here but I guess I find it hopeful and empowering that moderates and liberals are finally finding some common ground because that's probably where we'll find a path forward. awe, that is really sweet. I try my best to see both sides even if I don't always agree with either. My problem with his administration is that I don't feel it is for the good of the country. Even when I disagreed with Obama or Bush, I didn't doubt their love of the country.
This one is just hard. Yes, "this one is just hard" is an understatement. It's not his policies or politics to me, it's literally him as a person. I never thought there would be a president of our country would give me such pause because of who he shows us to be. I can handle different views on policies as they can be reasoned. He is not reasonable. He gives me the heebie geebies. |
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Post by pilcas on Feb 11, 2017 3:38:01 GMT
I don't care what spin he puts on it as long as he gets out! Not that I care for Pence and his ideas but at least I don't think of him as a loonie.
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Post by Sarah*H on Feb 11, 2017 3:42:03 GMT
For me, it's been a surprise to realize just how patriotic I am. And not in the wear "wolves/eagles & American flag" t-shirts kind of way but in how much I believe in and am willing to defend what our country stands for kind of patriotism. That this incompetent, boorish, gauche, easily manipulated charlatan has been allowed to represent himself as the face of our nation is humiliating and offensive.
As to the OP, he won't resign. He's off on on his second vacation in 3 weeks, this time to golf with Abe. Do you think Melania will fly in to meet him? (I truly don't mean to be crass but seriously, can you imagine being in such a high stress/high profile position and living separately from your one sure source of tension relief?) He'll fire Flynn later this week, thinking it will paint him as a decisive leader and mitigate all of the negative press. He'll continue to sulk and rage in private when he realizes the resistance isn't going away.
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He hates the job, sucks at the job BUT his narcissistic personality won't ever let him admit defeat. Or even being wrong in a simple argument or debate. Nothing. I see him as seeing no gray in ANYTHING. Black and white only. Or in his eyes, win or lose.
? THIS IS MY PRESIDENT?