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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 11:07:29 GMT
Bear with me, but I am just thinking out loud here. WHERE are the previous Presidents on the turmoil that is happening? I know they can't DO anything but DAMN, I am sure they have some incredible insight as to what is going on. Radio silence?  ?? |
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 25, 2017 11:45:13 GMT
Good question. I suspect that they are biding their time and letting Trump dig his own hole, as the saying goes. But who knows?
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Post by hop2 on Feb 25, 2017 11:54:11 GMT
What are they supposed to do?
George senior is in fragile health
Clinton can't say much as he is married to 'the sore looser'
George junior? I'm sure Trump would only point out how badly he beat his brother so whatever he said would be drown out
Obama? He has already dealt with this jerks attacks for 8 years. Why would he want to invite more? I'm sure we will hear from him, but he will wait until it can make an impact
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 25, 2017 13:00:39 GMT
What are they supposed to do? George senior is in fragile health Clinton can't say much as he is married to 'the sore looser' George junior? I'm sure Trump would only point out how badly he beat his brother so whatever he said would be drown out Obama? He has already dealt with this jerks attacks for 8 years. Why would he want to invite more? I'm sure we will hear from him, but he will wait until it can make an impact Good point, OP. However, I agree with the post above as well. I think they could speak out (and should if things continue to deteriorate) but am not sure how effective it would be. |
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Post by Really Red on Feb 25, 2017 13:39:04 GMT
While it feels like Trump has been in office for years, it's only been just over a month. A month of destruction, but a month, nevertheless.
I think the former presidents have to sit out a bit. I think it's the respectful and correct thing to do right now. I also don't think it matters at all what anyone says, as we can see.
Trump was absolutely right when he said he could murder someone and people wouldn't care.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 13:45:21 GMT
There is also Carter.
Individually they all have issues - as stated above.
However, speaking together, they would be powerful.
They, together saying, this is not normal. This is not Dem philosophy or GOP philosophy. This is, in so many ways, beneath the office of President of the United States of America, etc. would be powerful.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 25, 2017 13:47:41 GMT
There's not a whole lot they can do beyond publicaly condemn what Trump is doing if they disagree with it. Perhaps they are all keeping their silence so that they are not seen to be "interfering" with Trumps administration.
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Post by used2scrap on Feb 25, 2017 13:59:15 GMT
They spoke out before the election, when they all stated they would not vote for Trump didn't they? (Obvious for Clinton and Carter, but a big deal for both of the Bushes at the time). I imagine now they besides health concerns they don't want to be seen as trying to undermine a sitting President/the government. What can they really do? I don't know the history, did former presidents speak out against Nixon?
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Post by imsirius on Feb 25, 2017 14:03:21 GMT
I would imagine right now, Obama is staying silent because it's still early days.
W, would be ignored or ridiculed by Trump.
Clinton would be laughed at and reminded that Trump won by a landslide.
However, I do think that all together they could make a huge statement.
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Post by Merge on Feb 25, 2017 14:28:16 GMT
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Post by terri on Feb 25, 2017 14:57:55 GMT
It is presidential protocol to not speak out about the new President. Though my guess is that Trump will leave them no choice but to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 14:59:07 GMT
I checked and it's an unwritten rule that ex-presidents don't criticize a sitting president.
However I suspect trump's actions may change that before too long.
When I saw who was going to give the rebuttal to trump's speech on Tuesday my first thought it should be President Obama instead of the ex governor of Kentucky.
The response from the right would be something to see.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 16:42:37 GMT
While it feels like Trump has been in office for years, it's only been just over a month. A month of destruction, but a month, nevertheless. I think the former presidents have to sit out a bit. I think it's the respectful and correct thing to do right now. I also don't think it matters at all what anyone says, as we can see. Trump was absolutely right when he said he could murder someone and people wouldn't care. You are all correct that it would be entirely problematic. It just seems so hard to believe this has been only ONE MONTH! I think I just had wishful thinking that they would ride in on their horses and save us all! Maybe they need to start putting anti-depression mess in the drinking water. |
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Post by annabella on Feb 25, 2017 16:45:29 GMT
It is presidential protocol to not speak out about the new President. Though my guess is that Trump will leave them no choice but to do so. Yes I was going to say the same. Chelsea Clinton's twitter has no problem criticizing Trump. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 17:55:32 GMT
I checked and it's an unwritten rule that ex-presidents don't criticize a sitting president. However I suspect trump's actions may change that before too long. When I saw who was going to give the rebuttal to trump's speech on Tuesday my first thought it should be President Obama instead of the ex governor of Kentucky. The response from the right would be something to see. As we know, President Bannon, er I mean Trump's perspective is F#(* tradition. Screw "unwritten rules" and "gentlemen's agreements". So... |
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Post by PLurker on Feb 25, 2017 18:07:13 GMT
My knee jerk reaction is "say something, already!" but I think individually they would be easily attacked. And it's early, it only seems like forever. If they did decide to say something, maybe a joint statement from them all, on both sides of the aisle, when the time is right? (wait a bit?)
I don't know. I bet they want to scream but can't. Right now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:52:16 GMT
Here's Obama.
/video/1
Oh, this must be eating Trump up. Obama gets to swan around to adulation, while Trump has to slave away in the White House w/people second guessing his every move.
Karma, Kramer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 19:56:01 GMT
Here's Obama. /video/1 Oh, this must be eating Trump up. Obama gets to swan around to adulation, while Trump has to slave away in the White House w/people second guessing his every move. Karma, Kramer. Maybe someone should post that video on Trump's twitter account every day for the foreseeable future  |
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 25, 2017 20:38:46 GMT
It is presidential protocol to not speak out about the new President.  Time will tell how this plays out. Bush Sr. already let it be known he voted for Hillary, that's normally not done. Who knows? They might say something.  |
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Post by flanz on Feb 25, 2017 20:57:17 GMT
SOOO great to see Barack getting loved up! What an ordeal and avalanche of hatred he had to deal with for 8 years. Miss and love him!
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 25, 2017 21:07:49 GMT
Honestly, as much as I want to see Trump contained and removed, I think that having retired presidents avoid getting involved in critiquing current presidents is a good custom to respect.
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Post by PLurker on Feb 25, 2017 22:32:18 GMT
Honestly, as much as I want to see Trump contained and removed, I think that having retired presidents avoid getting involved in critiquing current presidents is a good custom to respect. Normally I would agree with you and think I still do. But this is not "normally" so if they did find a way to speak out in a constructive way I may change my mind. This whole DJT Inc mess has got me in a whole new realm of craziness. |
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Post by redhead32 on Feb 25, 2017 22:35:56 GMT
It is presidential protocol to not speak out about the new President. Though my guess is that Trump will leave them no choice but to do so. This is what I thought, too. I read an OP somewhere that criticized President Obama for something he said/did (sorry, don't remember the details) after he left the Whitehouse because it broke tradition. It might have been something to do with the foundation he's working with? Anyway, it will be interesting to see if the 5 continue to hold their tongues. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 25, 2017 23:08:31 GMT
There's not a whole lot they can do beyond publicaly condemn what Trump is doing if they disagree with it. Perhaps they are all keeping their silence so that they are not seen to be "interfering" with Trumps administration. And they'll be labeled as "the swamp", "has been" "non-effective", and "tremendous losers" |
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Post by melanell on Feb 26, 2017 1:35:43 GMT
Do they really need to say anything? Is there anything left to say that people currently in office, White House staff, the media, and countless Americans are not already saying? The former presidents did their time taking crap from America. Now they get to relax and let the new guy take the heat. And, in Obama's case, to wave to his groupies.  I wish President Obama peace, but I also kind of wish that enormous crowds of well-wishers will keep being taped swarming around every time he shows up to do something even as mundane as getting coffee. You know, just because I can be immature too sometimes and I definitely see the fun in imagining Trump's reaction to the Obama fan club.  |
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Post by papersilly on Feb 26, 2017 4:47:42 GMT
They are all part of a very exclusive club. A fraternity of sorts. As such, they don't publicly turn on each other. What happens in office, stays in office kind of thing.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 26, 2017 9:15:01 GMT
It would set a very dangerous precedent.
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Post by tincin on Feb 26, 2017 14:15:42 GMT
While it feels like Trump has been in office for years, it's only been just over a month. A month of destruction, but a month, nevertheless. I think the former presidents have to sit out a bit. I think it's the respectful and correct thing to do right now. I also don't think it matters at all what anyone says, as we can see. Trump was absolutely right when he said he could murder someone and people wouldn't care. People would care, only his minions wouldn't. Save |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 14:22:09 GMT
What difference would it make?
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Post by katybee on Feb 26, 2017 15:38:58 GMT
I think they all believe very strongly in "One president at a time".
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I wish President Obama peace, but I also kind of wish that enormous crowds of well-wishers will keep being taped swarming around every time he shows up to do something even as mundane as getting coffee. 
