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Post by scrappintoee on Mar 5, 2017 5:17:17 GMT
I already knew it happens, I wish I could pretend it doesn't !!! .....whenever I think about it, I cry, pray, cry some more Tonight CNN aired a story about it, and I cannot stop crying every time I think about it. www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/02/health/nursing-home-sex-abuse-investigation/Many years ago, I saw a story on our local news about a younger female resident that was raped and pregnant from someone on the staff. Couple years later, I saw a local story of a resident being SEVERELY beaten horribly by a nurse . Then I saw ANOTHER story on the local news about a female resident raped by a janitor in the nursing home. I decided that day that I wanted to DO SOMETHING instead of just crying and praying ! I trained to become a volunteer Ombudsman at a local nursing home. Thankfully, I never knew of or heard of anyone being raped, molested, beaten at THIS location, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, of course! It was wonderful to do this volunteering, but the fact remains that these residents are SO vulnerable and some of the abuse probably isn't reported. Especially for a resident who's non-verbal, etc! I also pray for the children and adults who live in places for the mentally disabled. Seeing this story on CNN tonight----honestly, I wish I could just FORGET IT and pretend I never saw it. I cannot stop crying-----I feel as though there is NO ANSWER! Especially in the nighttime, when there aren't any visitors/ doctors/ inspectors/ administrators around, and much less staff----it would be very easy for a sick employee to prey on these precious people.
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Post by k8smom on Mar 5, 2017 7:05:01 GMT
So horrific! This is truly heartbreaking.
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Mar 5, 2017 7:14:07 GMT
Oh my goodness! I had no idea. This is so upsetting and scary.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 5, 2017 7:33:40 GMT
It's horrible and disgusting how often it's happening
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Post by miominmio on Mar 5, 2017 7:59:36 GMT
"Disgusting" and "terrible" doesn't quite cover it.
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Post by trollie on Mar 5, 2017 8:11:09 GMT
What the fuck is wrong with people? Truly evil.
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Post by Merge on Mar 5, 2017 12:32:31 GMT
People in nursing homes are so vulnerable to this kind of thing. It's heartbreaking. When my grandmother needed a nursing home, my parents moved her across country to Nebraska and found a good home there so they could visit her a few times a week and keep an eye on things. They'd read that the best way to keep high-quality care and and prevent problems is for the staff to see the family is present and watching.
And we found that to be true. After my parents died suddenly, my sister was simply not able to visit as much as they had because she's raising four kids and lives about an hour from the nursing home. My brother and I both live across the country and could only visit a couple of times a year. Our grandmother went downhill very quickly after that, and we noticed that when we did visit, they didn't seem to be taking quite as nice care of her (she had dementia and needed help with bathing, grooming, etc., in addition to her medical needs). And this was an expensive private nursing home, not a state-run facility.
I'm sure the people who work in these places are incredibly overworked and tend to give the most care to the squeaky wheels, as you would expect. But abuse or assault is something else entirely. I can't imagine what makes someone think that is OK.
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Post by anxiousmom on Mar 5, 2017 12:40:12 GMT
People in nursing homes are so vulnerable to this kind of thing. It's heartbreaking. When my grandmother needed a nursing home, my parents moved her across country to Nebraska and found a good home there so they could visit her a few times a week and keep an eye on things. They'd read that the best way to keep high-quality care and and prevent problems is for the staff to see the family is present and watching. And we found that to be true. After my parents died suddenly, my sister was simply not able to visit as much as they had because she's raising four kids and lives about an hour from the nursing home. My brother and I both live across the country and could only visit a couple of times a year. Our grandmother went downhill very quickly after that, and we noticed that when we did visit, they didn't seem to be taking quite as nice care of her (she had dementia and needed help with bathing, grooming, etc., in addition to her medical needs). And this was an expensive private nursing home, not a state-run facility. I'm sure the people who work in these places are incredibly overworked and tend to give the most care to the squeaky wheels, as you would expect. But abuse or assault is something else entirely. I can't imagine what makes someone think that is OK. We had always heard the same...when my grandfather's dementia was to the point that he could no longer live independently, my mom and her sisters got together and decided to move him into a nursing home near two of the sisters (my mom and her sister live next door to each other and the other sister lives further away.) They set up a schedule and one of them went every day to visit. They would go at different times, help with dinner times, bring cake on birthdays...enough that they were well known by residents and staff alike. I think that it made a huge difference in the care he received. I don't think that the staff would have neglected him, but having someone coming every day meant that they were more attentive I guess. I'd like to think that it bled over to the other residents as well-with the sisters always there and interacting with all the residents meant that someone was paying attention.
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Post by frenchie on Mar 5, 2017 12:55:30 GMT
My mother was abused in an Alzheimer's unit of a local nursing home. I did not want her there (that's a story for another day) and I was there to see her every day. I just had this feeling something bad was happening. My husband found a secret camera online that looked like a clock radio. We set it up in her room and sure enough, we get video of abuse. I'll never get those images out of my mind. Never. The 3 girls were prosecuted. I moved my mom in with us and basically never let anyone but family neat her again. I couldn't trust anyone and although it was very difficult-she was very severe for the last 8 months of her life, i feel so privileged to have been able to leave my job and care for her full time. My mother deserved nothing less after all she had been through. It's just terrible what some people are capable of. Thank you To everyone who is looking out for the vulnerable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 12:57:31 GMT
Thank you. That is the way things change. By action. You have inspired me to look into this too.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 5, 2017 13:13:57 GMT
It definitely happens. I once delivered the baby of a girl with severe learning difficulties, who had been raped by the supervisor of the sheltered workshop where she made Christmas crackers. He was imprisoned, and the baby, was adopted.
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Post by pridemom on Mar 5, 2017 13:17:25 GMT
Thank you for being an ombudsman. I worked doing Money Follows the Person transition and the ombudsmen were often the generators of referrals.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Mar 5, 2017 13:56:41 GMT
This is one of my fears as a person with no children. If I need care later in life, it will be from strangers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 14:05:06 GMT
This is one of my fears as a person with no children. If I need care later in life, it will be from strangers. Even if you have children, it can still be from strangers.
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Post by maryland on Mar 5, 2017 15:03:06 GMT
My 17 yr. old is volunteering at a nursing home right now. She just loves the men and women that she works with. I cannot even imagine these men and women being abused.
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Post by nightnurse on Mar 5, 2017 15:18:16 GMT
This is so heartbreaking and horrific.
Obviously, there is no excuse for this kind of behavior. But I think that the system deserves some of the blame. Nursing homes are understaffed and those overworked individuals are underpaid and usually poorly trained. In my state, a lot of the nurses aides-who provide the most hands on care-have their training paid for by the state, and they do it because their state benefits depend on it, not because they have a calling. So you have people who don't really want to be there, have had about to months of training and very little on the job support. The turnover rate is crazy high. These people generally aren't abusive, but when there is no staff available, the facilities hire whoever they can get and there isn't a lot of oversight, especially overnight. For nonverbal patients, there may be no way for them to alert other staff and generally if aide A is in with Mrs. X, then the nurse is in with Mr. B and they have no idea what the other is doing.
And families tell me every week that they shouldn't have to use Dad's savings to pay for his nursing home care. Umm, who should pay, then?! We as a country have decided that health care is a privilege of the rich. Medicare pays for a 100 skilled days (give or take) of inpatient nursing care but not long term care. Who has an extra 100 grand a year to pay for nursing home care? Every day I hear ads from lawyers on how to protect your estate so the nursing home can't take all your money.
That's not to excuse neglect or abuse, but if nursing homes weren't desperate for staff, they could take only the best, those with a true calling to provide care. They could fire people who they felt didn't interact well with patients. They could have enough staff so people would be aware of what other staff was doing, instead of some times only one aide on a floor of thirty residents.
Medicare has regulations for everything we do in a nursing home/rehab facility. More (or at least different) than the hospitals. What isn't regulated is staff ratios. Nurses argue for it every year and every year, healthcare corporations lobby against it, because it's too expensive to appropriately staff. When I went from the nursing home to the hospital, I had 30 patients at the nursing home and FIVE at the hospital. The nurses at the hospital kept telling me how much sicker my hospital patients were-they had IVs and wound vacs. I had all that at the nursing home. While yes, there are a lot more acute patients in the hospital, on the day of discharge I can only have five of them in the morning but in the afternoon when they are transitioned to rehab I can have 30? They didn't get that much more stable.
And we actually had a state rep call nursing home residents "tax users" and state that her focus was on "tax payers" and so she wasn't looking into helping fix any nursing home problems. Tax users??! These are the people who paid their taxes their whole lives and helped shape our country. I have WWII vets, Korean War vets, teachers, construction workers, people who helped build and shape this country, and I'm telling them they can only have one piece of pizza at dinner because even though they pay 10k a month, we only have enough pizza for everybody to have one slice. And they get an actual shower or bath once a week because there just isn't time for more.
Most of the people I work with have been there for years and are great at what they do, but every one of us leaves at the end of the day wishing we could have done more. 90% of what I do isn't ordering a new med or test, it's just listening and being available. I cut someone's nails and she cried, because she'd been asking and asking and no one had time. That's so sad.
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Post by ~Sherri~ on Mar 5, 2017 15:47:22 GMT
My first job as a CNA was in a nursing home. When I first started, I loved it!! Many of the residents I took care of became like family to me. I loved each and every one I had under my care. When we would lose a resident, my heart would break.
A few years later, new management comes in with staff from a shut down nursing home. Things went down hill fast. Lots of our staff left, saying they worked to hard for their license to lose it. The new nurses they hired were often taken out in handcuffs due to do stealing of meds. Residents were mysteriously getting hurt. The new CNA's were mainly worried about getting their smoke breaks and not resident's care. I saw abuse from nurses and CNA's but was never taken seriously when reported. I could tell you stories that you would not believe could be true.
I went from having 12 residents to take care of to 16-18 to take care of. It was impossible to give decent care to so many. Many of our residents had to be fed and we only had a few minutes with each to do so. I would come home and cry many days. As much as I loved my residents, I couldn't take it anymore. The day I turned in my notice was the happiest day for me. I honestly wouldn't take my worst enemy to that nursing home.
Just a few months ago, physical abuse was reported at a different nursing home in our area. It was investigated and found to be true. Because the nurses and CNA's who did the abuse quit, no other actions were taken by the state. This made me sick!!! They are free to hurt others in a different facility.
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Post by nightnurse on Mar 5, 2017 17:20:56 GMT
My first job as a CNA was in a nursing home. When I first started, I loved it!! Many of the residents I took care of became like family to me. I loved each and every one I had under my care. When we would lose a resident, my heart would break. A few years later, new management comes in with staff from a shut down nursing home. Things went down hill fast. Lots of our staff left, saying they worked to hard for their license to lose it. The new nurses they hired were often taken out in handcuffs due to do stealing of meds. Residents were mysteriously getting hurt. The new CNA's were mainly worried about getting their smoke breaks and not resident's care. I saw abuse from nurses and CNA's but was never taken seriously when reported. I could tell you stories that you would not believe could be true. I went from having 12 residents to take care of to 16-18 to take care of. It was impossible to give decent care to so many. Many of our residents had to be fed and we only had a few minutes with each to do so. I would come home and cry many days. As much as I loved my residents, I couldn't take it anymore. The day I turned in my notice was the happiest day for me. I honestly wouldn't take my worst enemy to that nursing home. Just a few months ago, physical abuse was reported at a different nursing home in our area. It was investigated and found to be true. Because the nurses and CNA's who did the abuse quit, no other actions were taken by the state. This made me sick!!! They are free to hurt others in a different facility. Makes me so sad. And angry. And this is why we lose the good staff members. I really believe that for profit health care is of the devil. When we are worried about making a profit for shareholders and paying out 7 figures to executives, there isn't money left for the frontline staff and patient care.
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Post by ~Sherri~ on Mar 5, 2017 17:33:14 GMT
The nursing home I worked for was more concerned about how impressive the lobby was versus the residents needs. The linens we had to use were threadbare at best. Gowns were almost see through, bed pads were rough and worn out, sheets and blankets were so thin!! The wardrobes were falling apart, geri-chairs were dangerous to the residents because of all the broken pieces sticking out and causing skin tears. I could go on and on. We would bring in our own shampoo and bathing supplies for our residents if they didn't have any of their own. The crap the nursing home supplied was the poorest quality.
I am grateful to have job now that CARES about their patients. It is in a hospital where patient care is the FIRST and FOREMOST important part of our job.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 5, 2017 17:44:56 GMT
My brothers and I fought with my sister over where our mom should go when she needed full time care. The majority of us lived close to a very nice place but it was more expensive. My sister lived closer to this other cheaper place but it would have been harder for the rest of us to get there regularly. Thankfully reason won out and we moved mom to the place closest to more of us and she enjoyed many regular visits from more of her kids and grandkids. I think it made a huge difference in the level of care she received (even at the nice place she lived) because someone was always popping in at all times of the day and almost every day of the week to visit. I find it appalling that these kinds of things happen to the most vulnerable people who are least able to advocate for themselves.
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Post by lovinlife on Mar 5, 2017 19:16:01 GMT
These people are just evil. How can you abuse people like this that are so helpless? My dh was in a nursing home for 2 months before coming home after a stroke. We had a family member with him every single day. We was suppose to be on a special soft foods diet. Half of the time they brought him the wrong food. They didn't get him out of bed unless we were there. At night residents would ring for a nurse/aide sometimes for an hour or 2 before anyone responded. It was the most horrible and sad thing I had ever seen. The say we left I told the supervisor my concerns. He said it was just the best they could do since corporate was not allowing more people to be hired. Have to say most of the staff seemed pretty good. They just didn't have enough people period. I don't understand why we don't pay more $ for these people that are caring for our old and sick. It is such a difficult job and the pay is lousy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:34:41 GMT
My husband's father will treated the way he has treated service providers. His care will take a toll on the unfortunate ones who are assigned to him. Actually I am not sure if any of the care facilities will take him.
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Post by scrappintoee on Mar 6, 2017 5:28:44 GMT
Lots of (( hugs )) and prayers to ALL of you who've had to deal with your loved one getting any type of poor care / other issues !!!! And God bless my fellow peas who have worked in these places..... frenchie ....I am SO, so sorry your precious Mom was abused! I'm sooo happy that you were able to take care of her eventually, but how horrible at what happened before that! Many ((( hugs ))) to you! ~Sherri~ ---Many times, I used to cry after working, too God bless you for all the extra loving things you did for your residents !!! We get sooo attached to them, don't we? (( hugs )) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd now like to sort of highjack my own thread and add a HAPPY story, though I also used to take my doggies to visit the residents....OMG! The SMILES and reactions were just amaaazing!!!!!!! There was a lady that had been dying for a long time--just the sweetest, SADDEST lady---I just loved her and would try to comfort her whenever I saw her. The TRANSFORMATION of her face (full of JOY!!!) when my sweet doggie came up to her bed is something I will never forget ! I can no longer physically do that, but MAYBE I'll be able to again someday !! I've always encouraged people to either take their children/ pets/ themselves to visit residents (especially the ones that get NO VISITORS---EVER! ) You will make them sooo happy!!!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Mar 6, 2017 11:58:34 GMT
That's just horrific and heartbreaking.
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