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Post by SunnySmile on Aug 19, 2014 18:40:38 GMT
I just found out yesterday that our insurance premiums are going from $68 per month to $534 per month. Affordable Care Act? Not from where I stand. It's going to take one of us getting another job to pay for our damn insurance. This puts our family into a tailspin that will just take up all our time working instead of spending ANY time together. We just don't make enough to cover this, but we make too much to receive any cost benefit.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 19, 2014 18:42:54 GMT
I am so sorry. We went through this too...literally 2 1/2 times higher premiums with triple deductibles.
Try to get a job with the state somehow. My DH was hired last March and his premiums are a freaking dream compared to what we had before.
(((hugs)))
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Post by ljsmom on Aug 19, 2014 19:19:48 GMT
Health care continues to be such a mess. Sorry you find yourself in such a situation. I hope a surprising solution makes itself available to you.
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Post by amom23 on Aug 19, 2014 19:33:33 GMT
We are self employed and our monthly premium is $1100. We've always had to pay alot and it hasn't gotten better or worse with the ACA. It just is what it is and I wouldn't want to be without insurance so we continue to pay what we have to.
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Post by gale w on Aug 19, 2014 19:41:48 GMT
I guess I should be happy ours is only going to double. From about $700 to over $1400.
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Post by alibama on Aug 19, 2014 19:49:05 GMT
Ours went sky high too. I work for a small business, the owners wife works for the city. He went on his wife insurance because ours is so expensive now.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Aug 19, 2014 19:53:24 GMT
Our premiums went up 30% at our renewal in March.
There have been several executive orders that have deferred enrollment for certain groups which means the pool of those they expected to participate is smaller and we all know what that means. Strap in for the ride because premiums will continue to rise
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Post by oh yvonne on Aug 19, 2014 19:58:17 GMT
OMG, Sunny, that's so awful! I'm so scared this is going to happen to us soon too. I hate this Presidency with every fiber of my being. I swear I do. I do.
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Post by keknj on Aug 19, 2014 20:08:20 GMT
If ours went up that much, there is no way we would be able to afford it. We pay somewhere around 700 or 800/month. And it currently pays nothing. We have not met our deductible so everything is out of pocket. And when we meet the deductible, it will only pay 50%.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:09:09 GMT
We finally have affordable coverage thanks to the aca. I'm sorry you don't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:15:02 GMT
We finally have affordable coverage thanks to the aca. I'm sorry you don't. ACA just moved around who had good coverage and who didn't. In all reality, it isn't covering that many more people than before ACA was enacted, but everyone's premiums are having to pay for a lot more than before -- you know, those "minimum essential benefits" as defined by HHS.
Ugh.....DH just changed jobs and took a pay decrease, but the employer does still have good coverage. So it did help offset it a bit. Not sure what we will do if it goes up much though!
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Post by elaine on Aug 19, 2014 20:15:54 GMT
I just found out yesterday that our insurance premiums are going from $68 per month to $534 per month. Affordable Care Act? Not from where I stand. It's going to take one of us getting another job to pay for our damn insurance. This puts our family into a tailspin that will just take up all our time working instead of spending ANY time together. We just don't make enough to cover this, but we make too much to receive any cost benefit. I wonder who was footing the bill for your medical costs before? At $68 per month for FAMILY health insurance, it would take 3 months of premiums to cover the cost of one family member's visit to a CVS Minute Clinic for a strep test. A trip to a regular doctor would be anywhere from 4 months' to a year's worth of premiums depending on whether there was any lab work done. One ER visit for a broken bone with X-rays and specialists could be a couple of years' worth of premiums at $68 per month. Eta: not to mention the $$ from your insurance that covers part of all your prescription drugs. The last time I had a full-time job with health insurance, it was 14 years ago for the Department of Defense, and I was paying $400 per month for the family. I'm sorry that your insurance premiums are rising exponentially. That really stinks! That said, I don't think what you were paying before even came close to covering typical medical costs. I'm not sure who was subsidizing your family's health care.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:17:44 GMT
How can the ACA increase premiums like that? What if a family lives paycheque to paycheque and doesn't have an extra $600 a month to pay for insurance? How does that work? I know I don't understand your system. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Are you supposed to sell your house? (if you even own a house?) Forgo meals? You still aren't getting great prescription coverage either are you?
Anyway just ignore my post because it was not meant to incite a war. It is just me thinking out loud.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Aug 19, 2014 20:18:18 GMT
In Feb when dh went to his company's open enrollment meeting, he was told premiums for a family of 4 (which we are) would be $550, per pay period . That's $1100 a month! So I contacted someone I had been working with previously and we were able to get on the exchange. I guess because the cost was a certain percentage of our income, we were able to decline the employee coverage.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:20:23 GMT
We finally have affordable coverage thanks to the aca. I'm sorry you don't. ACA just moved around who had good coverage and who didn't. In all reality, it isn't covering that many more people than before ACA was enacted, but everyone's premiums are having to pay for a lot more than before -- you know, those "minimum essential benefits" as defined by HHS.
Ugh.....DH just changed jobs and took a pay decrease, but the employer does still have good coverage. So it did help offset it a bit. Not sure what we will do if it goes up much though!
This is simply not true for me. We were able to get better coverage for an affordable price. We both have huge medical expenses due to our issues and we finally can get the treatment we desperately need. The aca is helping many. It isn't all bad like some want us to believe. It still needs lots of work though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:20:33 GMT
Agree with *elaine*. I am not saying that it doesn't totally suck for your family - it does. But it sounds more like your employer (or someone) is shifting a higher percentage of your premiums to you vs. your premiums actually going up that much. It is not necessarily an ACA issue.
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Post by gypsymama on Aug 19, 2014 20:25:02 GMT
i honestly think the insurance companies are jacking up rates and blaming ACA... i work for a fairly large school district in TX and our HR guy told us that while premiums did go up they went up a smaller percentage than he's seen in a long time
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Post by miyooper2b on Aug 19, 2014 20:25:03 GMT
We are one of the 5M that their plans don't meet the new standards. Our insurance company has already told us our premium is going up about 50% a month. Ugh! I wish Obama would have kept his promise that if you like your plan, you can keep it.
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Post by SunnySmile on Aug 19, 2014 20:32:32 GMT
I just found out yesterday that our insurance premiums are going from $68 per month to $534 per month. Affordable Care Act? Not from where I stand. It's going to take one of us getting another job to pay for our damn insurance. This puts our family into a tailspin that will just take up all our time working instead of spending ANY time together. We just don't make enough to cover this, but we make too much to receive any cost benefit. I wonder who was footing the bill for your medical costs before? At $68 per month for FAMILY health insurance, it would take 3 months of premiums to cover the cost of one family member's visit to a CVS Minute Clinic for a strep test. A trip to a regular doctor would be anywhere from 4 months' to a year's worth of premiums depending on whether there was any lab work done. One ER visit for a broken bone with X-rays and specialists could be a couple of years' worth of premiums at $68 per month. Eta: not to mention the $$ from your insurance that covers part of all your prescription drugs. The last time I had a full-time job with health insurance, it was 14 years ago for the Department of Defense, and I was paying $400 per month for the family. I'm sorry that your insurance premiums are rising exponentially. That really stinks! That said, I don't think what you were paying before even came close to covering typical medical costs. I'm not sure who was subsidizing your family's health care. I know we've been lucky for a long time. My husband's job just had great insurance coverage, and for years we didn't pay any premium, it was for the state teachers'system, and then with his retirement, that was to continue as part of his retirement package until he reaches age 70. Then the premiums went up to $68 and we still thought we were pretty lucky, because even though his retirement amount wasn't what we hoped it would be, the benefits offset that. Now not so much, but I am thankful that it's not more. Some of you have it worse it sounds like and I'm sorry for that. Someone mentioned you just have to suck it up, and I guess we will. Thanks everyone for your sympathy!
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Post by scrappinmama on Aug 19, 2014 20:34:26 GMT
Our insurance has gone up every year since dh and I graduated from college. For about 10 years, I was a state employee. Insurance was free for a family of 4. Then it went up little by little. But since it was so cheap to begin with, it was no big deal. 7 years ago, we all went on dh's insurance. Talk about sticker shock! And the rates go up every year. Thus was true under the Bush administration as well.
Our health insurance in this country is a mess. Yes, changes needed to be made, but they made the wrong changes.
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Post by birukitty on Aug 19, 2014 20:35:01 GMT
Yes, it isn't Obama. It's your employer. DH was out of work for 8 months (he's in IT) and we were thrilled when he was offered a job 2 months ago. He loves his new job. It's a much better commute, better office environment, much less stress. But the health insurance sucks! For the last 20 years he's always been given a choice of policies. This time it was no choice-one policy-it's $1,000 to cover DH and I each month, plus it has a $5,000 deductible At least it's Cigna and not United, but $5000 for a deductible!
Everyone at the company complains about the insurance and the word is that the employer isn't paying any of it-just passing it on to the employees. That copay is killing us. We've paid half of it so far through my prescriptions but dang, by the time we pay the rest January will be here and it'll start all over again.
Yes, we are very thankful for the job but in this country health insurance sucks the big one and you just know there are folks getting rich because of it. Why can't we have an open market for health insurance like we do for car insurance? Competition would bring down these crazy prices into more realistic ones.
Debbie in MD.
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Post by gonewalkabout on Aug 19, 2014 20:40:44 GMT
I am so sorry everyone is going through this. We've been hit also. I hurt my foot in December, probably dislocated or something, still having problems with it.
I can't afford to get another X-ray the doctor ordered, and won't be able to get it fixed anyway if something else is wrong with it, like a fracture. So I've been hobbling around. Our premiums mean we can't afford dental work either.
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Post by perumbula on Aug 19, 2014 20:42:14 GMT
Yes, we are very thankful for the job but in this country health insurance sucks the big one and you just know there are folks getting rich because of it. Why can't we have an open market for health insurance like we do for car insurance? Competition would bring down these crazy prices into more realistic ones. Debbie in MD. My husband and I have been saying that about health insurance for years. Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines (everyone else can, why can't they?) Allow people to opt out of the employers insurance if they wish. Take restrictions off insurance instead of putting so many on. I think it's telling that insurance companies were lobbying for the ACA which placed more restrictions on the purchasing of health insurance than ever before. If the companies want it, they must be making more money with the ACA in place. And btw, we have to find new insurance by April. Our insurance company is dropping their individual coverage (no employer insurance because both DH and I work for very small companies.) What fun it's going to be shopping for a new insurance.
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 19, 2014 20:44:21 GMT
Yes, it isn't Obama. It's your employer. DH was out of work for 8 months (he's in IT) and we were thrilled when he was offered a job 2 months ago. He loves his new job. It's a much better commute, better office environment, much less stress. But the health insurance sucks! For the last 20 years he's always been given a choice of policies. This time it was no choice-one policy-it's $1,000 to cover DH and I each month, plus it has a $5,000 deductible At least it's Cigna and not United, but $5000 for a deductible! Actually, Obama's ACA bill is what has created the conditions for employers to offer such shit insurance "deals", so, yeah...since Obama is the one who signed it into law, it's is Obama's fault.
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Post by gale w on Aug 19, 2014 20:46:02 GMT
For us, it's not our employer. We're self employed. How can the ACA increase premiums like that? What if a family lives paycheque to paycheque and doesn't have an extra $600 a month to pay for insurance? How does that work? I know I don't understand your system. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Are you supposed to sell your house? (if you even own a house?) Forgo meals? You still aren't getting great prescription coverage either are you? Anyway just ignore my post because it was not meant to incite a war. It is just me thinking out loud. On our plan all prescriptions go toward the deductible, which is $11,000. In December we have to get a new insurance plan and the deductible will be $12,000 with the same coverage otherwise (but higher premiums). The only difference is that the new plan will cover maternity and birth control, both of which I do not want coverage for.
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Post by SunnySmile on Aug 19, 2014 20:50:42 GMT
I didn't really pay much attention to ACA thinking that it wouldn't affect us, since we had great insurance, and we were assured it would remain. We've been very blessed since 1992 with this insurance and so I really had no idea how high some insurances were. It's crazy! Health care shouldn't cost as much as it does anyway. $5000 for an implant in my ankle (to keep it from moving incorrectly) the size of a screw 1/2" long! That surgery alone cost over $28,0000! $10 for some Tylenol, one dose! and on and on. Heaven forbid if it was a really serious surgery, transplant, etc.! Healthcare shouldn't bankrupt families.
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Post by eebud on Aug 19, 2014 20:54:51 GMT
DH and I are both lucky that we still have reasonably priced health insurance through our employers. But, it has gone up quite a bit due to Obamacare. The price increase is not necessarily seen in the premiums we are paying, it is seen in the no raises due to their extra medical costs (both are self insured companies like most larger companies) or other cuts in benefits. DH received an email that specifically said that due to ACA, they cut their 401K match by 50% so that they could keep insurance premium increases to a minimum. DH's premium only increased slightly but deductible and out of pocket max went up plus the reduction in 401K match as already mentioned. My coverage stayed the same with premiums going up slightly but no increase in salary. You are paying for it one way or another.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 20:54:58 GMT
For the last 8 months, we've been paying an additional $600 in premiums alone per month for our family's coverage. And now, all of our other expenses aren't yet covered because we've not yet met the deductible. Our health care costs are eating us alive this year. (but DH got a "free" colonoscopy...and my girls get their BCP's for "free" Yay...although the pills were only $4 a month before...so certainly not out of reach)
And yes, our premiums rose every year under Bush as well. I can handle an extra $4-$10 per paycheck. It's now $300 a paycheck more. I'm sure you guys can do the math and compare "increases", right?
ACA has simply shifted the demographics of who can now afford insurance. Hasn't fixed a thing.
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Post by kmk1112 on Aug 19, 2014 20:56:06 GMT
I just found out yesterday that our insurance premiums are going from $68 per month to $534 per month. Affordable Care Act? Not from where I stand. It's going to take one of us getting another job to pay for our damn insurance. This puts our family into a tailspin that will just take up all our time working instead of spending ANY time together. We just don't make enough to cover this, but we make too much to receive any cost benefit. Was your company giving a big subsidy to your payments before, and have they discontinued that now? $534 per month for family coverage is in line with what I have paid for years through my employer sponsored plan. I think sometimes companies use this type of changes to sneak in other changes and blame it on the ACA or whatever the new law of the moment is.
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Post by elaine on Aug 19, 2014 21:05:20 GMT
Health care shouldn't cost as much as it does anyway. $5000 for an implant in my ankle (to keep it from moving incorrectly) the size of a screw 1/2" long! That surgery alone cost over $28,0000! $10 for some Tylenol, one dose! and on and on. Heaven forbid if it was a really serious surgery, transplant, etc.! Healthcare shouldn't bankrupt families. For me, this is the crux of the problem with USA health care. Pharmaceutical and medical equipment (like that ankle implant) companies have strong lobbyists, and are allowed to charge whatever they want, unchecked. They enjoy governmental protection of their ability to eliminate competition I n the guise of patent protection of their drugs and devices, yet don't want government regulation of their pricing. I have a broken wrist right now which, with an ER visit, 2 sets of X-rays so far (at least one more set to go), one CAT scan, pain meds, 2 casts, and surgery likely, would bankrupt us if we had to pay all the costs out of pocket. All because I was stupid enough to trip while walking the dog.
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