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Post by justcindy on Apr 12, 2017 15:16:30 GMT
My 14yo God daughter wants me to teach her how to scrapbook this summer! Yay!!
I have a box of papers, stickers, etc that I'd purged from my stash a few months ago, and started to pull some things she may like to put a few kits together for her. I wasn't thinking single page kits, but papers that coordinate so she can make several pages from each kit.
Now, here's my sticky part. I am going to be teaching her the basics...but I've been doing this for over 20 years!! ( Hello, Creative Memories!) I go back and forth between wanting to bag the stuff into kits similar to a subscription type thing, with several coordinating papers and embellishments, back to just putting all cardstock together, all patterned paper together, all stickers together, and let her do her own thing without my "creative imput" so to speak. BUT.....when I got started, I would have LOVED to have a pre-selected kit to work with, and some of those decisions made for my overwhelmed mind.
along the same vein, what ARE the basics I should show her, vs. pushing my personal style on her? As far as choosing a color theme, pint quart gallon, avoiding sticker sneeze, etc.....I mean, going through all that is how we develop our own personal style anyway. I want to give her tips, but not make her think my style is the only way to do it.
As far as tools, I got a small profile 12" trimmer at a LSS garage sale, sharp scissors, and a pack of adhesive runners, black, white and pink Thickers and a few pens from Tuesday Morning. I think that's all she'll need for now, or am I missing something? I don't want to make a huge investment if this ends up not being her thing. I'll be getting a 3 ring binder type scrapbook, as well as page protectors, and am going to put in a few divided page protectors for her to try that style as well.
I'm so excited to be sharing one of my passions with my sweet Goddaughter! I just wish she didn't live 3 hours away!
Look forward to getting ya'lls advice and suggestions!
Cindy
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 12, 2017 16:30:26 GMT
I have found that teens don't have inhibitions about doing it right or following a prescribed outline, like a kit. They like the free form creativity of scrapbooking. So what I like to do is lay out a few guidelines (like cropping is a skill for more advanced scrappers) and how to do basic design, etc, but kids just seem to love the free flow creativity. For sticker sneeze I might talk about placing stickers in a corner or grouping, or punching squares and putting the stickers on, etc.
I also start with 8.5x11 binder and get that size page protectors because it is much easier for a new scrapper to work with the smaller real estate. I think you have all the tools you need. Show her your pages, show her some online or gallery pages, ask her what style she likes, help her wit the first layout then let her do her thing - except for mutilating photos and that sort of thing.
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Post by Prenticekid on Apr 12, 2017 16:50:05 GMT
Tell her what you think the basics are, then let her go at it in her own way. That's it. I wouldn't even mention styles - that might make her think that her pages are not good enough. When you get right down to it, style often means the amount of money you spend or the access you have to scrapbook shopping. Just let her be proud of what she creates.
Some of the advice that I gave my DGD included the visual triangle (which she refuses to use LOL), things can coordinate, they don't have to be all matchy matchy, and don't junk it up. My DGD still uses the phrase "junk it up." LOL
It always makes me sad when Peas post here and practically apologize for the way they scrapbook. Bottom line is there is no right or wrong way to do it. I believe that is the best advice you can give your Goddaughter.
Have fun! You'll be amazed what what she will come up with.
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Post by pas2 on Apr 12, 2017 16:53:01 GMT
i wouldn't make kits but rather have cardstock and papers that all mix and match, enough to make a dozen pages or so. Make sure it includes colors she loves, papers that have a younger feel to them and images that are popular with teens now. Maybe you can find out if she plans to do family photos vs. school friends and pull items accordingly. I noticed a big difference of the materials my girls chose to work with at that age depending on the theme of the album. Maybe pick up a project life kit with overlays or themes like birthdays and trips. TM had paper pads with a teen vibe and small PL kits recently. Do you have any color blocking templates on hand, they can make first pages easier. Try doing 8.5x11 pages first, a smaller format isn't as overwhelming. After explaining the basics and showing her some of your earlier/ simpler pages treat her to a trip to HL or TM, etc... You're going to have so much fun!
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Post by goldenblind221 on Apr 12, 2017 17:00:51 GMT
I would approach it like, "here is the stuff you can use, here are the basic tools you will need, measure twice cut once, and let me know if you have any questions." Then let her do whatever she wants. If she wants more direction, she will ask for it, but she won't be as inclined to tell you you're helicopter scrapping.
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Post by infochick on Apr 12, 2017 17:18:11 GMT
I think it is a fine balance between total creative freedom and providing some structure to help her make successful pages (and by that I mean pages that she likes). My mom teaches school and makes scrapbooks with her elementary school class and we are very careful to give them things that coordinate, and tell them where to put things. A teen would need significantly less help this way, but I think the idea the idea of larger coordinating kits is a good one. And maybe once she has gone through one or two, she might be confident enough to match her scraps and mix things up on her own.
Another idea might be to include a few sketches or printouts of different things she can scraplift to give her an idea of a variety of styles.
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Post by pas2 on Apr 12, 2017 17:26:00 GMT
I would approach it like, "here is the stuff you can use, here are the basic tools you will need, measure twice cut once, and let me know if you have any questions." Then let her do whatever she wants. If she wants more direction, she will ask for it, but she won't be as inclined to tell you you're helicopter scrapping. I definitely agree, let her dictate how much input she wants in her creative process. Instead, have some technique mini lessons such as stamping, playing with punches, using stencils, hand lettering then let her go play. |
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Post by caangel on Apr 12, 2017 17:34:38 GMT
Good discussion. My DD 7yo has started asking to *help* me. I like the idea of a coordinated kit. I think I might take her to TM and have her pick out a 6x6 pad or 2 to work with. The 8.5x11 suggestion is a great one too!
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 12, 2017 18:25:37 GMT
Bottom line is there is no right or wrong way to do it. I believe that is the best advice you can give your Goddaughter. I have posted before but I think there is a right and a wrong way with very loose parameters. It depends what your goals are. but I know what you mean, though! People should not feel bad about their pages, except me who has some real crappy pages from early on! |
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Post by amom23 on Apr 12, 2017 18:33:47 GMT
I would probably buy her a 6x8 album with divided protectors and a PL/simple stories type kit along with some alphabet stickers and maybe some other coordinating stickers and let her have at it.
Keep it simple and let her actually be able to complete a project.
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Post by pas2 on Apr 12, 2017 18:47:03 GMT
Bottom line is there is no right or wrong way to do it. I believe that is the best advice you can give your Goddaughter. I have posted before but I think there is a right and a wrong way with very loose parameters. It depends what your goals are. but I know what you mean, though! People should not feel bad about their pages, except me who has some real crappy pages from early on! Remind her to always work with copies not originals of her photos and that if she doesn't like it, it can always be redone. That may take some of the fear out of doing her first pages. |
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Post by justcindy on Apr 12, 2017 19:18:49 GMT
wow, what awesome suggestions and ideas!!! Thank you so much!
Pas2, that's exactly what I did when going through my box. I know her favorite colors so I started there with a couple sheets of patterned paper that has some combination of her favorite colors, then found coordinating papers to go with. That's how I ended up picking up the sets of black, white, and pink thickers from TM, those will go with pretty much anything I have in the kit. I also threw in some "friends," summer and birthday themed stickers and 3x4 cards that also have "her" colors. I figure this would be generic enough for a good healthy start. OH! She LOVES her dog so I am going to look for some way to work that in. Maybe a stamp set, and a couple of those mini ink pads?
Here are the suggestions I want to make sure to get across:
1. Use copies, not original photos (your mom will kill me)
2. Don't have to use solid strips of tape/glue runner along each and every edge you lay down (gets expensive and hard to re-adjust or tuck things in)
3. Start small (so your project will have an end, if you want it to...I'm thinking she wants a SB of just her friends throughout highschool, though, an ongoing thing)
4. Start simple - you can add more stuff but let it have a purpose to the story you want to tell. (to not waste the supplies, and to let your style emerge)
5. Have a focus for the page - do you want the focus to be on the story, or on a specific picture, or on the paper, or embellishments? (none of those are wrong, just have a plan so you will be happier with the results)
Infochick, I love the idea of having some sketches printed out so she can see different styles and see what she gravitates towards, and have a jumping off point.
Thank you guys, for all the helpful suggestions! Please keep them coming, if you think of anything else I should add, say, or otherwise!
Cindy
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 12, 2017 22:46:00 GMT
Just like we sometimes use sketches for ideas, I would first show her some examples of what is being done. Show her full 12x12, 6x8, traveler notebooks, project life and planners in different design styles and see what she likes. Once you have that down you can tailor a small stash to start. Basic pointers like best use of supplies (no need for a ton of adhesive over the whole piece, glue needed on chipboard thickers, how to line up titles using a ruler, utilizing scraps for layering or labels). I would also strongly encourage that “THERE ARE NO RULES” and that her style will evolve as she develops more experience with what she likes and doesn’t like. Also, reinforce that this hobby is supposed to be fun. If she is overthinking or worried about her projects being perfect she needs permission to make mistakes. Experimenting means making mistakes or making a page that isn’t your favorite, but it also stretches your creativity and leads us to new things.
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Post by papersilly on Apr 12, 2017 22:54:47 GMT
the great thing about SBing is that we have our own creative style. let her play around with the papers and embellishments to get a feels for the colors and designs she likes. you can show her how to use the tools and let her see some of your projects but the rest should be up to her. your style may not necessarily be hers but you can teach her techniques.
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Post by msliz on Apr 12, 2017 23:32:39 GMT
My teens get anxious when you give them too much info. I would tell her, it's paper, scissors, tape, and markers. You did this in kindergarten. Just have fun.
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Post by caangel on Apr 12, 2017 23:49:21 GMT
While it is not the current style I was thinking of giving my kids my old scrapbook magazines. Might give them inspiration and there would be lots to choose from. Mine are young so no devices for them.
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Post by pancakes on Apr 13, 2017 13:08:51 GMT
You could also pull together a pinterest board with a lot of different scrapbooking styles and see what she gravitates to! That way you know what direction she might like to go in terms of patterns, color, and embellishments.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 13, 2017 13:48:17 GMT
While it is not the current style I was thinking of giving my kids my old scrapbook magazines. Might give them inspiration and there would be lots to choose from. Mine are young so no devices for them. not too old! Those ones from 1997 recently on a thread are lessons in what not to do! |
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Post by caangel on Apr 14, 2017 1:21:14 GMT
While it is not the current style I was thinking of giving my kids my old scrapbook magazines. Might give them inspiration and there would be lots to choose from. Mine are young so no devices for them. not too old! Those ones from 1997 recently on a thread are lessons in what not to do! Lol no the ones i have are more late 2000s! |
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