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Post by paigepea on May 14, 2017 14:15:22 GMT
We knew two families last season and two families this season.
Just watched the second family this season and they were told to lie at yhe end.
Ugh. Now I'm questioning all of the episodes I ever saw where the family said they were listing! I hate lying!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 14:20:24 GMT
I always wondered if they went out of their way to make the houses look cluttered. The clutter always drives me crazy!!
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Post by maurchclt on May 14, 2017 14:22:29 GMT
Really? I know it's 'fake" but outright lying, not liking that.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on May 14, 2017 14:23:44 GMT
What's the point then? The two families you know, what was in it for them?
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Post by cindosha on May 14, 2017 14:34:03 GMT
It always annoyed me that the houses were so sloppy looking. In real life if a TVshow was coming to your house, you'd clean the shit out of it, not portray to the whole world that you live in a pigsty.
And it's not just love it or list it either. I've seen the same thing on the property brothers too.
It's annoying.
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Post by freecharlie on May 14, 2017 14:39:22 GMT
The show also made up major issues along This I totally believe. There can't be a hidden cost in every single one of their renovations that causes them to have to cut back. I don't like the lying, but since I don't watch it for the people, but rather for design inspiration, it won't make me quit watching.
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Post by pondrunner on May 14, 2017 14:40:54 GMT
Whaaaaaaat, something on TV was all scripted? Surely you jest.
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Post by paigepea on May 14, 2017 15:04:09 GMT
What's the point then? The two families you know, what was in it for them? For the Reno to be done in 6 weeks with no need for you to find a contractor or workers. You also get a bit of a break on the costs. So you don't pay a designer and you don't pay for much of the labor. At the same time you don't get to choose. You can have input as per style / colours but that's it and that is done in private.
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Post by gramasue on May 14, 2017 15:27:12 GMT
Love it or List it drives me crazy. It's always the exact same premise - one wants to stay and one wants to move. They hate all the houses they're shown, then something goes wrong at their house and they fight with the designer, then they fight with each other, then the designer fights with the contractor, then all of a sudden the people love the last house they're shown and the reno turns out beautiful. I wish they would just mix it up a bit every once in a while.
And yeah, what's with the messy, messy houses? I clean up the clutter when my grandkids come over, for heaven's sake, never mind a TV crew!
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Post by 950nancy on May 14, 2017 15:38:33 GMT
The show also made up major issues along This I totally believe. There can't be a hidden cost in every single one of their renovations that causes them to have to cut back. I don't like the lying, but since I don't watch it for the people, but rather for design inspiration, it won't make me quit watching. I have always wondered that too. When you watch Chip and Joanna Gains, you rarely see major repairs that they aren't completely prepared for.
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Post by momto4kiddos on May 14, 2017 16:57:17 GMT
I heard this same type story years ago...friend of a friend type thing had someone doing one of the earlier shows - house hunters type thing. They said the same type of thing, that the family choose something other than what was portrayed.
I think most of these shows have elements that aren't quite real/true.
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Post by jojam on May 14, 2017 17:23:35 GMT
I read somewhere that they tape both a 'love it' and a 'list it' option, and the producers choose which to air. Also, In the same article, I read that most knew before the reno even took place if they were really going to love it or list it. And really, the show can't make you sell your house and move, or stay in it after it's all said and done.
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Post by peasquared on May 14, 2017 17:47:14 GMT
I read somewhere that they tape both a 'love it' and a 'list it' option, and the producers choose which to air. Also, In the same article, I read that most knew before the reno even took place if they were really going to love it or list it. And really, the show can't make you sell your house and move, or stay in it after it's all said and done. I heard that too.
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Post by bc2ca on May 14, 2017 18:02:04 GMT
We love watching the Vancouver version of this show to see how long it takes us to pinpoint their neighborhoods. Any houses shown "just 15-20 minutes outside their current neighborhood" really means "if you make the trip in the middle of the night with a police escort racing you through". You know there is no way they are choosing it no matter how nice it is. I've always assumed the starting versions of their house are messed up to look cluttered and don't think I could ever give up that much design control. I'm not completely opposed to wallpaper, but some of the choices I just couldn't live with. Interesting that they film two versions of the end. It does seem to be half & half which one they choose.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 14, 2017 18:05:11 GMT
I always wondered if they went out of their way to make the houses look cluttered. The clutter always drives me crazy!! Same here. Most of the time when I watch that show I can't believe average people normally live with that much junk heaped up helter shelter in their basements and play rooms floor to ceiling like that, so I'm honestly not all that surprised to know it's probably not real. I've been in plenty of messy or cluttered houses before (and I lived in a really small house with a ton of stuff in it for over 20 years) but usually people at least have their stuff stacked up in some logical manner or on shelves so they can get at the things they need from time to time.
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Post by PaperAngel on May 14, 2017 18:22:28 GMT
It's common knowledge that reality shows are scripted & merely amateur hour! I rarely watch HGTV (& only if I'm channel surfing & stumble upon a reveal/last few minutes of a show) because the network has detoured from its original path of sharing design principles/color theory & solving decorating dilemmas into unrealistic manufactured drama with little to no substance. Disappointing...
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 14, 2017 18:28:30 GMT
I read somewhere that they tape both a 'love it' and a 'list it' option, and the producers choose which to air. Also, In the same article, I read that most knew before the reno even took place if they were really going to love it or list it. And really, the show can't make you sell your house and move, or stay in it after it's all said and done. This doesn't surprise me either. The thing that drives me bonkers about the show is that more often than not the couple will give the realtor a bigger budget than the remodeler. Say their existing house is worth $500K. They're willing to go up to $575 for a move to a new house, but will only offer $40-50K for the remodel but they want two entire floors of their house reworked including kitchen and bathrooms. Then they complain to high heaven when the whole remodel can't be done on the skimpy budget given (or, something "major" is discovered that needs fixing which kills the original budget) and the plan has to be cut back and they lose important deal breaker things on their list. Meanwhile, the realtor shows them a house they looooove that's over their stated budget at $590K but it has "absolutely EVERYTHING on your list! So-and-so isn't giving you THAT in your old house!" And they go for that when they could just dump another $20-40K in their existing house remodel and could get everything they wanted without moving and their whole house was already ripped up? That just doesn't make sense! If a show is going to even try to show a realistic apples to apples comparison, I would think both avenues should be given the same resources in order to be totally fair. Both the realtor and the remodeler should get the same exact budget. Of course you're not going to get the same amenities when one person is given a boatload more money! On a related note, now I can tell my DH that he's probably not actually wrong as many times as he thinks he is when he guesses that they're going to go one way and the show says they make the opposite choice!
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Post by bc2ca on May 14, 2017 18:41:20 GMT
It's common knowledge that reality shows are scripted & merely amateur hour! I rarely watch HGTV (& only if I'm channel surfing & stumble upon a reveal/last few minutes of a show) because the network has detoured from its original path of sharing design principles/color theory & solving decorating dilemmas into unrealistic manufactured drama with little to no substance. Disappointing… I still record some shows to FF and see the final reveal. I miss shows like Designers' Challenge and Landscapers' Challenge where, in 30 minutes, you would see 3 different design plans, the final choice and the finished product. The formula & drama is so contrived on the current shows and we don't learn anything about design.
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Post by amandad74 on May 15, 2017 2:17:32 GMT
I think Love it or List it is a good premise and a lot of people are in the same boat. However, the show is too scripted and predictable. Don't make it dramatic, make it real, not fake. I quit warching because it was so fake and dramatic.
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Post by nlwilkins on May 15, 2017 6:08:24 GMT
What always bothered me about the show is the stated reason why the couple feel they need to move. Most of the time if they would just teach their children to put things away and cut back on how many toys the children have they would have it made. PLUS why in the world do children need a play room now days? Isn't that what a yard is for? or do kids even play outside anymore?
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Post by caangel on May 15, 2017 16:09:53 GMT
What always bothered me about the show is the stated reason why the couple feel they need to move. Most of the time if they would just teach their children to put things away and cut back on how many toys the children have they would have it made. PLUS why in the world do children need a play room now days? Isn't that what a yard is for? or do kids even play outside anymore? In my experience when kids are little (under 4ish) a play room is necessary. I didn't feel comfortable letting them be outside on their own completely and I needed to get stuff done (like dinner) inside. My kids are older now and that isn't an issue but we still have a play room that gets used a ton. We did a big remodel when our kids were 2&4 and having that dedicated space made such a difference in the toy clutter in other areas of the house.
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Post by bc2ca on May 15, 2017 16:17:14 GMT
What always bothered me about the show is the stated reason why the couple feel they need to move. Most of the time if they would just teach their children to put things away and cut back on how many toys the children have they would have it made. PLUS why in the world do children need a play room now days? Isn't that what a yard is for? or do kids even play outside anymore? Kids still play outside but weather limits that for much of the year in many places (and definitely in the cities where LIOLI is filmed). I didn't want small toys (Polly Pockets, legos, etc.) taking over the living room so loved having a dedicated playroom when the kids were younger. SaveSave
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Post by paigepea on May 15, 2017 17:19:03 GMT
Love it or List it drives me crazy. It's always the exact same premise - one wants to stay and one wants to move. They hate all the houses they're shown, then something goes wrong at their house and they fight with the designer, then they fight with each other, then the designer fights with the contractor, then all of a sudden the people love the last house they're shown and the reno turns out beautiful. I wish they would just mix it up a bit every once in a while. And yeah, what's with the messy, messy houses? I clean up the clutter when my grandkids come over, for heaven's sake, never mind a TV crew! This is totally true! And my friends had to decide who wanted to stay and who wanted to leave!
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Post by jlynnbarth on May 15, 2017 17:43:17 GMT
What always bothered me about the show is the stated reason why the couple feel they need to move. Most of the time if they would just teach their children to put things away and cut back on how many toys the children have they would have it made. PLUS why in the world do children need a play room now days? Isn't that what a yard is for? or do kids even play outside anymore? When we were kids, the "play room" was our bedroom. Heck, when my kids were growing up their bedrooms were their "play rooms". We didn't have toys all over the house, they were contained in their bedrooms and we taught them to keep things neat and organized when they were done playing. We did crafts at the kitchen table and cleaned up when we were done. So I agree with you that some of it is just plain organizing issues. I don't watch that show anymore. I don't like the bickering and all the "problems" that arise that cost thousands of dollars just seems so fake to me. A lot (not all) of the design is not something I would chose for my home either, so there isn't really a reason for me to watch it.
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Post by rickmer on May 15, 2017 19:31:14 GMT
our neighbours two doors up were on the show a couple of years ago. they ended up "loving" (which was agreed upon ahead of time) but have since listed... well, sold.
the home owners had to have multiple outfits ready so they could film and make it look like different days. it was agreed that he was gonna wanna list it and she wouldn't want to move.
the houses that they looked at with David to purchase were all over the city (not in their "desired neighbourhood") and the prices were just made up for the show.
not a whole lot of realty going there. but it serves a purpose, I suppose. their Reno was lovely.
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Post by bunnyhug on May 15, 2017 19:43:12 GMT
I like the UK version, barely tolerate the Toronto one, and hate the Vancouver version--and I will be heartbroken if anyone ever says that Kirstie and Phil aren't legit! I feel like their version feels less scripted...
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 15, 2017 20:54:01 GMT
I am not going to tell my boyfriend any of what you guys just wrote- he LOVES this show, and was really disappointed to find out about Tarek and Christina. No way am I going to ruin Love it or List It for him, too! lol!! (even though we both know most of this type of show are scripted / fake.)
I hate seeing all the clutter, too-- and I always wonder where all that clutter actually GOES- especially if they have to make two extra bedrooms and a bathroom out of the available space. All the clutter is in the unfinished basement, but when they renovate the house (typically reducing the storage space in the process) there is NO clutter at all!!
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 15, 2017 22:16:17 GMT
What always bothered me about the show is the stated reason why the couple feel they need to move. Most of the time if they would just teach their children to put things away and cut back on how many toys the children have they would have it made. PLUS why in the world do children need a play room now days? Isn't that what a yard is for? or do kids even play outside anymore? For us, it wasn't a need. It was more a situation where we moved into a house that has an informal family room on one side of the foyer/entryway that we use every day with a fireplace and where our tv is, and a separate more formal living room on the other side that we simply didn't need, didn't have formal furniture for and weren't using. So we put our futon and piano in there along with a shelf, some bins and a bunch of the stuff DD drags out to play with and it is now essentially the "toy room." Our dog sits on the futon to look out the window, otherwise nobody ever sits in there. We have a big yard (1.5+ acres) with wildlife including foxes, the occasional coyote, turkeys, deer, etc. We also have a deep swampy pond across the street, so when our kid was little we didn't want to leave her outside to play alone ever, and sometimes you just need to get some stuff done inside the house so you want them playing where you can keep a closer eye on them. Now that she's older it's less of an issue because she will stay in our yard and knows to stay away from anything that might wander through our yard. I agree with you that kids seem to have a ton more toys and junk today than they used to, but people in general are having fewer kids these days too. My kid has a lot more stuff than I ever did, but she also has no siblings and I had SEVEN of those! So I think it all kind of evens out. I would much rather have one kid with a little more temporary stuff than a bunch more kids and **all** of the extra stuff that comes with a bigger family.
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Post by julieb on May 16, 2017 1:31:58 GMT
We knew two families last season and two families this season. Just watched the second family this season and they were told to lie at yhe end. Ugh. Now I'm questioning all of the episodes I ever saw where the family said they were listing! I hate lying! Were they told to say they loved it, when they were going to list it? or vice versa? And why lie???
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