MsKnit
Pearl Clutcher
RefuPea #1406
Posts: 2,648
Jun 26, 2014 19:06:42 GMT
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Post by MsKnit on May 16, 2017 15:48:50 GMT
My heart hurts for her son. Where is the unconditional love?
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 16, 2017 15:59:11 GMT
That was me, I'm sorry. I was logged in under Facebook instead of my account & didn't want that name to show so I deleted & didn't repost. Thank you for your thoughts. My original post was to say that I was coming out of my lurkerdom to say I lost a son this year & cannot understand someone who would disown her son in the name of God. She should absolutely be ashamed of herself, I really feel for the son. My thoughts, prayers and love are with you. I can't imagine your grief, but know I am with you as the rest of the Peas are in spirit. We love you very much.
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Post by Really Red on May 16, 2017 16:06:53 GMT
Someone deleted their post but if you come back and read this thread I'd just like to say I'm so very sorry for your loss. My mum lost one of her sons and her grief is something that will stay with me forever. Please know you can share here if you need to That was me, I'm sorry. I was logged in under Facebook instead of my account & didn't want that name to show so I deleted & didn't repost. Thank you for your thoughts. My original post was to say that I was coming out of my lurkerdom to say I lost a son this year & cannot understand someone who would disown her son in the name of God. She should absolutely be ashamed of herself, I really feel for the son. I am so so sorry for your loss. You are brave to post when all you must want to do is bonk that stupid woman. Also, while I am not religious, I see that people are good and religion may keep them good. Religion does not make people bad. People would find a way to be bad regardless.
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RosieKat
Drama Llama
PeaJect #12
Posts: 5,401
Jun 25, 2014 19:28:04 GMT
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Post by RosieKat on May 16, 2017 16:22:21 GMT
Wait, y'all don't remember that part where Jesus said he died for everyone's sins, unless they were gay?
How terribly sad. I'm glad that other blogger spoke up.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 16, 2017 16:47:25 GMT
May she never have to attend her child's funeral and watch little kids grow up without a parent! BTDT!
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Post by vronn on May 16, 2017 18:31:59 GMT
I feel for her son, he didn't have much of a mother. But I bet he's better off without the toxicity.
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cherivall
Junior Member
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Jun 25, 2014 19:31:06 GMT
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Post by cherivall on May 16, 2017 21:32:08 GMT
as a mom that has lost a child and has a gay son .. this hurts my heart .. this mom does not deserve the "title" of mother .. and I hope that she NEVER has to really feel what it is like to have a dead child ..
how can people be so damn stupid ..
Cheri
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Deleted
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Jun 1, 2024 13:18:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 0:59:18 GMT
Also, while I am not religious, I see that people are good and religion may keep them good. Religion does not make people bad. People would find a way to be bad regardless.
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Post by lesleyanne on May 17, 2017 1:11:53 GMT
With or without religion, good people would still do good things. But it takes a force like religion to make otherwise good people do truly evil things (paraphrase: Weinberg) Poor son.
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Post by txdancermom on May 17, 2017 1:15:20 GMT
The Jesus I know never turns anyone away. That is the same Jesus I know.
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Dani-Mani
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,706
Jun 28, 2014 17:36:35 GMT
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Post by Dani-Mani on May 17, 2017 1:38:50 GMT
The title is off putting and misleading. Those who have lost a child might trigger with your title. I know it is sensationalized, but perhaps think about changing it. The rest of it? The mom has a right to believe what she wants. I think she is 100% wrong, but it is her right to believe it. This. Your post happen to be below the One about the pea whose son was in the accident. My heart dropped, thinking he had passed. PLEASE consider changing the title. It's very insensitive.
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Post by jenjie on May 17, 2017 1:45:04 GMT
JT919 I am so sorry for the loss of your son. I hope you stick around.
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Deleted
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Jun 1, 2024 13:18:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 2:14:51 GMT
JT919 I am so sorry for the loss of your son. I hope you stick around. Same. I am sorry for your loss and hope that your memories will be with you to remind you of his life and light.
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Dani-Mani
Pearl Clutcher
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Jun 28, 2014 17:36:35 GMT
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Post by Dani-Mani on May 17, 2017 2:47:36 GMT
So given your lack of response to me and freecharlie, I'm guessing you're more concerned about people opening your thread with a title designed to get their attention is more important than being sensitive to your fellow peas?
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Post by pb on May 17, 2017 4:03:26 GMT
I know a young man from a large Catholic family. He recently came out to his family and thay have all disowned him. One sister barely keeps in touch by phone but only to relay important news. His mother had major surgery and he said he would come down only to be told he was unwelcomed by all of them and if he came he old be turned away "we don't want to see you".
Fortunately he has found a second family...spends holidays with them and is loved and cared for but it still stings and he still has a lot to work through.
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Deleted
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Jun 1, 2024 13:18:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 4:25:13 GMT
I know a young man from a large Catholic family. He recently came out to his family and thay have all disowned him. One sister barely keeps in touch by phone but only to relay important news. His mother had major surgery and he said he would come down only to be told he was unwelcomed by all of them and if he came he old be turned away "we don't want to see you". Fortunately he has found a second family...spends holidays with them and is loved and cared for but it still stings and he still has a lot to work through. We had the same thing happen w/a second cousin who came out as transgender in her 50's. Her mom died not too long afterward and though she saw my cousin when she (the mom) was in the hospital, she would only agree see my cousin at the very end. Her dad lived about 5 years longer and during that time her dad - an uber-conservative Catholic, Knights of Columbus, Cursillo Center guy - came around. We could not believe it. They gradually became close again and she was able to spend a fair amount of time with her dad, help him travel, help him at the end, and be a part of his life. So, you never know.
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Post by compeateropeator on May 17, 2017 4:47:04 GMT
I know a young man from a large Catholic family. He recently came out to his family and thay have all disowned him. One sister barely keeps in touch by phone but only to relay important news. His mother had major surgery and he said he would come down only to be told he was unwelcomed by all of them and if he came he old be turned away "we don't want to see you". Fortunately he has found a second family...spends holidays with them and is loved and cared for but it still stings and he still has a lot to work through. This is so sad. I posted earlier about extended family and a friend whose very religious families are able to continue to have loving and close relationships including attending marriages and accepting their partners...well they are mostly Catholic also. This includes my grandmother who is 93 and all of her family from that generation. We are a extremely large extended family and I have never heard a disparaging word about these family members or their partners. My mother just took my grandmother to attend a reception to celebrate her cousin's son and his partner's marriage. His father is a Lutheran Minister. I can't even imagine my family disowning one of our own for something as trivial as "who they are". I love my family.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on May 17, 2017 11:41:16 GMT
What an extremely close-minded and bigoted world view that woman has... and all in the name of religion. Disgusting.
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julieb
Pearl Clutcher
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Jul 3, 2014 16:02:54 GMT
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Post by julieb on May 17, 2017 11:58:18 GMT
Just sad. While I don't know what it is like to have a gay child, I love my children unconditionally and would never turn my back or love on them. I hope this young man finds a family and/or partner to share his life with.
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Deleted
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Jun 1, 2024 13:18:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 12:30:35 GMT
Let's compare and contrast her "Christian" love against the love of Manny Gutierrez's dad: "Matt Walsh, a conservative Christian blogger, wrote an article for The Blaze entitled, "Dads, we can’t expect our sons to become real men if we don’t teach them how." In the post, he argues that the casting of Gutierrez as the new male brand ambassador for Maybelline, and James Charles for CoverGirl, is proof that "boys need dads."" Because according to Matt and Kim we all have to live our lives according to their beliefs. Except - MANNY HAS A LOVING DAD!!!!! Manny is a young man who's become famous online doing male modeling. In one post, he had a lot of makeup on - but there are tons of pix of him w/o makeup too. After Matt's tweet, Manny's dad responded: ""Let me first begin by telling you that I’ve always been there for my son and will ALWAYS be there for him. Not only am I proud of what he has accomplished but I’m more proud of the person he has become," Mr. Gutierrez wrote. "I know the words you speak are from lack of knowing anybody from the LGBT community. If you did, you would soon realize they are some of the most real and kind hearted [sic] individuals that walk this planet of ours." Mr. Gutierrez concluded his message to Walsh with, "Going forward, I would choose your actions and words wisely. Just like you would do anything for your family, I would do [anything] for mine. Good day Sir." Taking down the haters one tweet at a time? Like father, like son." www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/17/manny-gutierrez-homophobic-tweet_n_14222928.html Manny added: "Being a man isn't about how 'tough' or 'masculine' you are. It's about taking care of the ones you love."
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mallie
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Jul 3, 2014 18:13:13 GMT
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Post by mallie on May 17, 2017 14:32:05 GMT
If I am wrong and God exists and Jesus is waiting upstairs, I think many people are going to be surprised when Jesus tells him how they have perverted his message.
It is a constant source of amazement to me how people pervert the message of love Jesus brought. How they fail to understand what a radical departure from the Old Testament was Jesus. I am an atheist and I see how shocking and amazing it would have been to hear his message in a culture ruled by the Old Testament and the Romans. I see how ennobling that message can be today, 2000 years later. HIs message is clearly spoken over and over. And he simplified it all down to two rules. Two. Both of which are about love. He was also quite clear about who should throw the first stone. What does it take to twist and pervert that simple message into hate and division and do it in His name?
I truly believe as humans and as females, our only inborn instinct when it comes to our children is to protect them. We are not born knowing how to do any form of childrearing -- humans have to learn it all. But I always believed animal instinct caused us to want to protect our children. As my life has gone on, I have come to believe we are not even born with that instinct, given how often I see mothers putting their child in harm's way and abandon them when it suits their purposes. In this so-called mother's case, I believe her purpose is feeling self righteous and feeling like a martyr to a cause. A cause she has wholly and willfully misinterpreted.
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gloryjoy
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Jun 26, 2014 12:35:32 GMT
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Post by gloryjoy on May 17, 2017 15:20:12 GMT
Well I guess she doesn't love her son unconditionally. I am sad for her son, not for her.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 17, 2017 15:32:32 GMT
MannyMUA's only problem is that he is a greedy "influencer" with a terrible attitude (but, luckily for him, plenty of loyal fans). But that has nothing to do with how he dresses, what he wears and whom he is attracted to.
I'm so over this. It's 2017. How can one still cling to religious dogmatism in the face of logics, science and society's public acceptance (finally)? Mind. Blown. Morals are about what one does that affects others. Being gay does not affect anyone but him and the person he's with (whom I'm sure won't object against it). I simply do not understand these people. You're not a parent, you're a principle-obsessed parrot.
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