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Post by Linda on May 18, 2017 1:31:48 GMT
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Post by Really Red on May 18, 2017 2:59:04 GMT
I got scolded when my DD missed more than 6 days. It was for the flu AND she had a doctor's note. SHe was 8 years old. THe letter that the Superintendent sent me cost nearly $2. I made sure he knew (he was my neighbor ) and I made sure everyone knew. Sometimes you have to think.
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Post by librarylady on May 18, 2017 3:10:53 GMT
It happens. One ISD where I worked did take the parents to court. ..not arrested, but issued summons to appear in court. It really is "on the parents" when the child is elementary age. I recall one specific parent who regularly brought her children to school 1-2 hours late (EVERY DAY!). Finally, principal filed the paperwork. Judge scolded parent and required parent to bring child 10 minutes prior to first bell ringing, and to come into office and sign a ledger. The record of her complying with the order had to be sent to the judge. If the parent had not complied, I'm not sure what would have happened. It got the mother's attention and the child made it to school on time the rest of the year.
Another parent, same school...Had a hissy fit and told judge she would move out of the school district--and did. With that attitude, I'm sure she would have been trouble down the road. The child was either a kinder or first grader and the mother didn't think it mattered at that age if the child came or not.
(Texas location)
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Post by nlwilkins on May 18, 2017 3:22:29 GMT
I used to take parents and students to court for truancy when I was an admin. It was a county level court and the parents were fined and the students were assigned community service. Texas law at that time stipulated that students could not miss more than 10% of school days. I believe if they had a doctor's note it was acceptable, but am not sure. The junior high students I worked with were impressed by the enforcement of the law and I saw more than one student turn themselves around as to attendance.
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Post by bc2ca on May 18, 2017 4:39:16 GMT
In our district, after 3 unexcused absences or tardy, a truancy letter is sent to the parents. After a third truancy letter, the parents have to appear before the School Attendance Review Board. If the SARB is unable to solve the underlying issue, a citation and court appearance may be required.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 4:45:56 GMT
My cousins should have been thrown in jail. And their kids taken away.
Did you know that it is okay to stay for a week when you have your period? And since daughter can stay home, brothers can stay home with her.
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Post by kibblesandbits on May 18, 2017 10:06:18 GMT
I wish. I have at least 14 students that are over the 40 day absent mark. It's the end of the year right now, they are all failing their core classes. Yesterday I received 7 e-mails from parents of those kids asking if there was extra credit for them so the kids would pass the class. Yeah, no. Come to school and do the work. Extra credit will not make up for missing critical curriculum lessons and projects.
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Post by scrapqueen01 on May 18, 2017 11:06:40 GMT
I work in a preschool and am surprised how many parents have trouble getting their children to school by 8:45. One child missed a field trip because mom couldn't bother getting there on time. I'm even more shocked by parents who are always late picking their child up from school. Seriously they treat us like a baby sitting service.
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Post by monklady123 on May 18, 2017 11:17:59 GMT
I totally understand penalizing the parents if an elementary school kid is always late or absent. Maybe even middle school. Because it's on the parent to get them there or to the bus. But not necessarily high school. I think it depends. If the parent is going out the door in the morning and says goodbye to their teen who is still in PJs watching TV and who they pretty much know is not going to school...well that parent is more guilty of aiding and abetting than the parent whose teen gets on the bus or gets dropped off at school but who then walks out the back door and plays hooky all day. Even if it happens over and over what can the parent do? You can punish at home, let the kid be in suspension at school...but in the end the kid is going to skip school if they want to.
Elementary is totally different of course. I remember one parent -- I remember her well because both of her kids were the same ages as my two so we were always in the same grade -- who always always ALWAYS was late. Not by a lot -- I mean not hours -- but always at least 15 or 20 minutes. Seriously? If you know you are late every single day why can't you start your day just a little bit earlier?
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Post by pridemom on May 18, 2017 12:07:39 GMT
Because my DD has an autoimmune disease that impacts her attendance, we have her 504 Plan document that absences related to her disease are not to count against her to protect against prosecution. It's sad that parents who won't get their kids to school impact those who can't attend as much as they want to.
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Post by monklady123 on May 18, 2017 12:20:00 GMT
Because my DD has an autoimmune disease that impacts her attendance, we have her 504 Plan document that absences related to her disease are not to count against her to protect against prosecution. It's sad that parents who won't get their kids to school impact those who can't attend as much as they want to. That's entirely different. It's sad that you had to put that in the 504 but I'm glad you can get that accommodation. Now that you've jogged my memory I remember a neighborhood family whose one kid had juvenile arthritis. I remember the mom telling me that some days it was just horrible for the poor girl to get out of bed. You can't plan for those days and get up a hour earlier every morning "just in case". So sometimes she was late for school. Totally not the same thing as parents who just can't get their act together day after day after day.
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Post by pridemom on May 18, 2017 14:48:23 GMT
Because my DD has an autoimmune disease that impacts her attendance, we have her 504 Plan document that absences related to her disease are not to count against her to protect against prosecution. It's sad that parents who won't get their kids to school impact those who can't attend as much as they want to. That's entirely different. It's sad that you had to put that in the 504 but I'm glad you can get that accommodation. Now that you've jogged my memory I remember a neighborhood family whose one kid had juvenile arthritis. I remember the mom telling me that some days it was just horrible for the poor girl to get out of bed. You can't plan for those days and get up a hour earlier every morning "just in case". So sometimes she was late for school. Totally not the same thing as parents who just can't get their act together day after day after day. Thanks for "getting it." DD does go in late some days because I won't let her miss the whole day. It's hard to move when it hurts and your joints won't cooperate.
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Post by delilahtwo on May 18, 2017 14:55:29 GMT
fucking stupid.
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Post by melanell on May 18, 2017 18:20:13 GMT
I am going to be thankful that they don't do that here since my younger son has missed over a dozen days already. Poor kid. It's been a rough year for him. My older son had a hard time with illness the first few years of school, too. Then things straightened out and he wound up missing perfect attendance for one day when he woke up with a pretty high fever out of nowhere and was so bummed. He kept asking if he could just go to school to be counted and if they sent him to the nurse then I could go get him! I felt bad for him, but I kept him home. So he went from approx. 10-12 missed days per year preschool-first grade, and then missed only one day in 2nd. Most of their absences are parent excused. And according to the school's rules. No fever of 100 degrees or more for 24 hours or else the child needs to stay home. I keep them home so that I don't wind up being called back in to get them. But it's an enormous pain because both of my kids tend to run fevers right around 100 that pop up out of nowhere and then go away in a day. Their doctors agreed that they were allergy related. So I just send them back with a note that says they had fever. And that's that. They make the rules. I follow them. They wouldn't want to hear me if they complain that I am following them.
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Post by Linda on May 18, 2017 20:02:30 GMT
I am going to be thankful that they don't do that here since my younger son has missed over a dozen days already. Poor kid. It's been a rough year for him. My older son had a hard time with illness the first few years of school, too. Then things straightened out and he wound up missing perfect attendance for one day when he woke up with a pretty high fever out of nowhere and was so bummed. He kept asking if he could just go to school to be counted and if they sent him to the nurse then I could go get him! I felt bad for him, but I kept him home. So he went from approx. 10-12 missed days per year preschool-first grade, and then missed only one day in 2nd. Most of their absences are parent excused. And according to the school's rules. No fever of 100 degrees or more for 24 hours or else the child needs to stay home. I keep them home so that I don't wind up being called back in to get them. But it's an enormous pain because both of my kids tend to run fevers right around 100 that pop up out of nowhere and then go away in a day. Their doctors agreed that they were allergy related. So I just send them back with a note that says they had fever. And that's that. They make the rules. I follow them. They wouldn't want to hear me if they complain that I am following them. yeah - that was the deal here with my kids...the first couple of years of school they caught everything going around (no daycare, no preschool, and the older two were homeschooled for several years - so no prior exposure to all the common germs). And my little one has bad reflux - exacerbated by stress - that took a while to diagnose...and caused her to throw up randomly - there's a 24hr rule for vomiting so she stayed home - now we know what it is, I'm okay sending her knowing that she's NOT contagious plus now she can read, she's not as stressed about school. The middle one - she gets migraines...complete with nausea and vomiting - ANDnow she's a teen - gets menstrual cramps bad enough to make her double over in pain AND throw up. And of course they both caught lice several times during those first couple of years in school here - and had to be nit-free to return to school. I don't keep my kids home unless sending them to school violates school policy or they are truly too ill to learn but I can't afford to send them to the doctor everytime they vomit or run a fever - it's nearly $100/visit and we have a high deductible plan so that's an out of pocket, pay to be seen, cost. And I think that's what irritates me about truancy rules here - it's a blanket rule and they're not interested in hearing the individual reasons. Both my girls are straight A students - obviously their 'truancy' hasn't had a negative impact on their grades. And if they are home sick, they are HOME and resting in bed - not running the streets, not zoned out on TV/video games
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Post by sunraynnc on May 18, 2017 20:07:29 GMT
Being on time and planning ahead is a life skill. Some of the most important gifts a parent can give a child do not cost any money.
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Post by refugeepea on May 18, 2017 20:16:58 GMT
Thanks for "getting it." DD does go in late some days because I won't let her miss the whole day. It's hard to move when it hurts and your joints won't cooperate. It's nice when other people understand. My son has had a sleep issues his entire life (Autism). I've got to the point where I send him to school if he wakes up at 1:00 a.m. or later. I text the teacher and tell her to let me know if I need to get him. Most days he does fine. It's a guessing game. I'm keeping him home for the next 2 days because he has a croupy cough (not terrible) but he thinks it's fun to force himself to keep coughing and make himself throw up. He also wouldn't let the doctor look at his throat this time, but he does have an ear infection. So again, I'm guessing he might have strep. His Kindergarten year was rough and I think I did get some sort of notice. I've had issues with my oldest kid and I feel for parents of teens.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 18, 2017 20:36:58 GMT
Seriously, I am dealing with a kid with bipolar disorder. Sometimes getting him out the door in the morning is an exercise in frustration. I don't know how they expect us parents to actually do it. The kid is bigger than I am. He never had an attendance issue when he was little. And don't even get me started on late start days twice a month. Our district does this two hour late start and I have to leave for work before he has to get out of bed. I have all but given up on him going on late start days. They don't understand how frustrating it is for us parents. I am just waiting for this kid to turn 16 so I don't have to be threatened with truancy any more.
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Post by 950nancy on May 18, 2017 22:38:16 GMT
I've had kids who missed every Friday to babysit a younger sibling, kids who missed 50+ days, and kids who would not come to school until the principal showed up and brought the kids to school in their jammies. While the rules sound ridiculous, they are clearly needed for a reason. Sometimes parents do everything right and the kid is still truant, but many, many times it is a parent who does not care and will vocalize repeatedly that they did just fine without going to school. Kids need to be in school. Without the laws, many children would not be attending school on a regular basis. That I know.
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