trollie
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Post by trollie on Jul 5, 2017 22:40:03 GMT
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Post by gailoh on Jul 5, 2017 22:43:08 GMT
wow, thank you for sharing
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Post by disneypal on Jul 5, 2017 22:47:40 GMT
I was reading about that earlier - pretty interesting!!
I am not sure if it is her and her assistant but they make an interesting argument that it could be.
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rodeomom
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Post by rodeomom on Jul 5, 2017 22:48:17 GMT
I'll wait to see the show, but that looks to me like it could be anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 22:48:39 GMT
I have doubts, the Japanese would have paraded her around like a pet.
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Post by breetheflea on Jul 5, 2017 22:51:59 GMT
Interesting...
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Post by papersilly on Jul 5, 2017 22:54:26 GMT
i saw this on the Today show this morning and have it set to record on Sunday. if she survived the crash, i'm pretty sure she died there while in captivity.
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Post by trollie on Jul 5, 2017 23:00:49 GMT
i saw this on the Today show this morning and have it set to record on Sunday. if she survived the crash, i'm pretty sure she died there while in captivity. Sadly, I think you are right.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 5, 2017 23:02:50 GMT
I have doubts, the Japanese would have paraded her around like a pet. ? What do you mean? The article in the OP is similar to other news reports I heard today about a picture taking by intelligence gathering organizations of a woman sitting on a dock and a man thought to be her navigator and the only one who is even attempted to be identifiable on the Marshall Islands. There isn't anything about them being paraded?
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Post by lucyg on Jul 5, 2017 23:04:18 GMT
I have doubts, the Japanese would have paraded her around like a pet. The news I watched said if they either thought she was a spy, or thought she accidentally saw something she shouldn't have seen (remember, they were already gearing up for military action in the Pacific), that they may have just "disappeared" her. Would that make her the first American casualty of WWII?
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Sue
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Post by Sue on Jul 5, 2017 23:15:20 GMT
The picture comparison of her navigator is pretty compelling... the one of the supposed Amelia less so but still possible. All together a very interesting find. I can't wait to see the documentary.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 23:32:01 GMT
I have doubts, the Japanese would have paraded her around like a pet. ? What do you mean? The article in the OP is similar to other news reports I heard today about a picture taking by intelligence gathering organizations of a woman sitting on a dock and a man thought to be her navigator and the only one who is even attempted to be identifiable on the Marshall Islands. There isn't anything about them being paraded? If she had been taken by the Japanese, they would not have kept her a secret. I have doubts that she ever was a prisoner no matter what any new reports today would say.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 5, 2017 23:35:37 GMT
I read that earlier today and plan to catch the show. It sounds like it was entirely possible they survived. I have doubts, the Japanese would have paraded her around like a pet. The news I watched said if they either thought she was a spy, or thought she accidentally saw something she shouldn't have seen (remember, they were already gearing up for military action in the Pacific), that they may have just "disappeared" her. Would that make her the first American casualty of WWII? The article I read said there had been a Saipanese woman in 1990 who claimed to have seen them executed by the Japanese. Wonder if we'll ever truly know?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 23:41:44 GMT
The picture comparison of her navigator is pretty compelling... the one of the supposed Amelia less so but still possible. All together a very interesting find. I can't wait to see the documentary. I agree...if we were just comparing the picture of the woman with short hair and her back, I'd still have my doubts. But that digital comparison of the navigator sealed it for me. I don't see how it could NOT be him...especially the hairline. And if he survived the crash, she must've as well.
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Post by gizzy on Jul 5, 2017 23:45:09 GMT
Interesting. I'll have to tune into this.
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Post by gramasue on Jul 5, 2017 23:52:56 GMT
That's fascinating!
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Post by Skellinton on Jul 6, 2017 0:02:59 GMT
I saw that this morning as well. I am not a conspiracy theorist at all, but this seems pretty convincing, I will definitely be watching the documentary.
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Post by used2scrap on Jul 6, 2017 0:04:07 GMT
Supposedly a former USMC Commandant told a reporter decades ago that she indeed died on Saipan. I guess these theories have been around for decades, interesting that it's coming back up again!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 6, 2017 0:04:31 GMT
? What do you mean? The article in the OP is similar to other news reports I heard today about a picture taking by intelligence gathering organizations of a woman sitting on a dock and a man thought to be her navigator and the only one who is even attempted to be identifiable on the Marshall Islands. There isn't anything about them being paraded? If she had been taken by the Japanese, they would not have kept her a secret. I have doubts that she ever was a prisoner no matter what any new reports today would say. Got you - they WOULD have paraded her - I misread. I don't have a good enough sense of the Japanese during that era particular as they were building up for war presumably.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 0:09:32 GMT
I too am looking forward to the documentary. The survival and capture is really the only plausible story I have really ever believed just because of how many say they saw it. There is an old cell with tick marks that they believe could have been one of their cells.
The Japanese were meticulous with record keeping much like the Nazis but that doesn't mean they could have not kept record because of who she was ya know...
I guess another team is taking cadaver dogs to the island to search for her bones.
I just always thought she survived. And maybe didn't want to be found...
Wasn't her plane set up for spying too?
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Post by *sprout* on Jul 6, 2017 1:04:46 GMT
The story sounds interesting, and I'll be recording the documentary.
I'm wondering if they will touch on the other artifacts TIGHAR found on Nikumaroro supporting that theory.
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Jul 6, 2017 1:25:09 GMT
This mystery has always intrigued me. My great-great aunt met Amelia Earhart in Hibbing, Minnesota, a couple years before she disappeared. Aunt Pauline was so impressed by her and always bothered by the disappearance. Any time a news report would surface about the disappearance over the years, she'd drop everything to seek out the newest info. When I first heard this report today, my aunt came to mind right away. She passed away in 1991, when I was a Junior in HS, and was still caught up in the mystery until the very end. I'm looking forward to Sunday night.
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Post by Really Red on Jul 6, 2017 1:45:34 GMT
This is just super fascinating. I hope we find out more. The Post had a great article. It's cool that we're so fascinated about this 80 years after her disappearance.
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Post by mellyw on Jul 6, 2017 1:57:08 GMT
? What do you mean? The article in the OP is similar to other news reports I heard today about a picture taking by intelligence gathering organizations of a woman sitting on a dock and a man thought to be her navigator and the only one who is even attempted to be identifiable on the Marshall Islands. There isn't anything about them being paraded? If she had been taken by the Japanese, they would not have kept her a secret. I have doubts that she ever was a prisoner no matter what any new reports today would say. Why on earth would you think that? The reasons to keep her a secret are more compelling that to parade her. The Japanese certainly didn't want to force us into a wartime posture in 1937, and parading Amelia Earhart around as a POW would have certainly done that. I lived in Japan from 1993-1999, and had an interesting conversation with someone whose family legend is about Amelia Earhart. That she was captured and died on Saipan. I know at one point there were supposedly bones in American Naval possession after the war that disappeared. I have it set to record too, should be an interesting watch. And @gajenny, that was just eerie when they superimposed the Fred Noonan photos, wasn't it? Sure does seem to be him.
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Post by mellyw on Jul 6, 2017 2:05:53 GMT
I too am looking forward to the documentary. The survival and capture is really the only plausible story I have really ever believed just because of how many say they saw it. There is an old cell with tick marks that they believe could have been one of their cells. The Japanese were meticulous with record keeping much like the Nazis but that doesn't mean they could have not kept record because of who she was ya know... I guess another team is taking cadaver dogs to the island to search for her bones. I just always thought she survived. And maybe didn't want to be found... Wasn't her plane set up for spying too? Yes, the Japanese were meticulous record keepers. That's why my personal belief is the American Government knew the Japanese took her, and destroyed any records alluding to that. It makes complete sense why our government would do it. We kept a lid on the horrible medical experiments the Japanese performed for decades, not too hard to see putting the Earhart mystery into the same category. Need to know, and us regular folk weren't in the category.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 6, 2017 2:07:55 GMT
The picture comparison of her navigator is pretty compelling... the one of the supposed Amelia less so but still possible. All together a very interesting find. I can't wait to see the documentary. I agree. The picture of Noonan was convincing; hard to tell about the picture purporting to be her. Still, it's very interesting.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 6, 2017 2:18:58 GMT
Why on earth would you think that? The reasons to keep her a secret are more compelling that to parade her. The Japanese certainly didn't want to force us into a wartime posture in 1937, and parading Amelia Earhart around as a POW would have certainly done that. I'm more inclined to this line of reasoning myself. The very last thing Japan wanted to do while they were preparing to invade was to call more international attention to themselves by parading a world-renowned superstar.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 6, 2017 2:39:26 GMT
Fascinating!!! Going to dvr
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Post by peasapie on Jul 6, 2017 3:26:04 GMT
I read this earlier and I hope it is wrong. That's a much worse ending than a crash landing.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 6, 2017 3:36:04 GMT
I have always been interested in Amelia... so got my DVR ready as well. This is probably the first real evidence that has really made me turn my head. I think it's got to be them especially with Noonan's face/hairline/features, then her picture AND the picture with the 'plane' or whatever it is being pulled by a boat....And from what I have heard the US government knew about it as well and the Japanese hid her from sight.
Any Colorado peeps know 'our' Amelia here in town.. she is all stoked about this. She is named after Amelia and her last name is the same and she was thought to be related to her, (Found out she isn't related at all).. but she is a pilot and has flown the same route (the whole thing obviously..lol) as the first Amelia.
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