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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 20, 2017 22:14:26 GMT
It was suggested that I start a thread on this when I brought up that Chester Bemmington was said to have suffered from this. And I'm sure the many that I know who experience this will be happy that the awareness on this is being spread. There have been so many who experience depersonalization and/or derealization and are given no hope for a cure because this disorder has not been that well known and has just recently started to be known within the past 10 years or so. I'm speaking on the behalf of many who suffer from this condition who are looking for help. As one who personally struggled with this myself, I have found something that helped me. And a very small part of that (but with a very big positive impact) was to not see this as a label on me. Being depersonalized is not a state of who I am, it's a state of all that I am not. After I broke through the label, I came to know so much more about who I am.
We are all unique as individuals. But everyone that I have interacted with who experience this condition share many of the same symptoms. And when I was still at a struggle with this myself, I was able to relate to all of these. And maybe some of these can be seen as other disorders or branching off of others. I'm sure there's a very blurred boundary, but personally I focus on the experiences, not the labeled disorder.
Many people who experience this condition don't feel real. They may not physically feel like they are in their body. People around them may feel distant to them or like they are just a dream. Time may feel warped. They may feel emotionally numb. They may lose touch with their identity, or feel like it's completely gone.
Never before in my life have I experienced anything more life-altering than when I started to experience this.
If anyone who has experienced this or know someone who has, feel free to add to the list of symptoms or add anything about it you'd like. I could get really deep into this and talk about it all day but philosophy homework awaits me for now. Thank you for this opportunity for me to share.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 22:18:18 GMT
I'm sad to say I've never heard of this. Thank you for sharing the information. I hope you get the answers you need.
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Post by scrappyesq on Jul 20, 2017 22:18:27 GMT
I really appreciate you starting this thread. One of the things that DH and I have learned during this past agonizing year is that he suffers from it along with depression. It's hard.
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 20, 2017 22:31:35 GMT
Another who knows zilch about this condition.
Mymindseyedpea, your threads are always great, bringing up things I would never think about otherwise.
Scrappesq, I hope you and your Hubby are able to cope with this.
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Post by keesha on Jul 20, 2017 23:46:47 GMT
Thank you for posting about it. I look forward to learning more! I am sorry for those of you suffering or living with loved ones that do and wonder if I know anyone who does.
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Post by scraphollie27 on Jul 21, 2017 0:46:40 GMT
I have never heard of this so I'm off to do some reasearch. Thanks for bringing up the topic.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 2:38:40 GMT
I don't post much but have been apart of two peas for gosh 18 yrs!!!! This is something I have have dealt with for 20 plus years. Anxiety plays a huge role in it. For me the trigger was getting high(marajania) and experienced my first derealization episode. I felt like I was in a dream and ended up in the ER. I went several months without exsperincing another episode ( never done drugs since) but then they hit with advengeince for nearly a year long. I went many many years without experiencing it agian then in my early 30s it hit 10 times harder. Now I stay in a state between normal on dream. I have learned to just accept this is what my life is and function best I can. I have,studied greatly on this and very little is known. I was actually so relieved when I finally found a name to put on ehatvi was feeling. For YEARS I felt like I was going crazy and the only one with this. For me I do believe anxiety/fear plays a key factor. I have had anxiety since early childhood due to trama and I think this is a coping mechanism our body does to protect it from overload. I would love for there to be a cure and to be able to "feel" real. I know for me you would never know if you met me I deal with this because it is the last thing I want anyone to know since you will be looked at like your crazy. I served 5yrs in Army with this,married with 4 kids. When it is really bad i cant leave my house. Typing on my phone is making it hard to write. I really would love to talk to someone else who deals,with this since I have never known anyone personally who is living with this. Sorry so long. @littleblueberry , this was one of the reasons why I want the awareness to spread, so those like yourself know that you’re not alone. You are welcome to pm me here anytime. I’ve had this condition rise and fall too quite a few times and it’s been about 20 years as well for me since my first experience with this happened. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 2:39:43 GMT
I'm sad to say I've never heard of this. Thank you for sharing the information. I hope you get the answers you need. Thank you Lizzy  |
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 21, 2017 2:42:57 GMT
Is there a typical time or age when this disorder starts to present?
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 2:44:15 GMT
I really appreciate you starting this thread. One of the things that DH and I have learned during this past agonizing year is that he suffers from it along with depression. It's hard. I know what that's like. I wanted to go back to the past where a more familiar self of me was. I'm sorry for you and your dh. I know it's hard on both of you. I hope this thread brings you some ease. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 2:46:14 GMT
Another who knows zilch about this condition. Mymindseyedpea, your threads are always great, bringing up things I would never think about otherwise. Scrappesq, I hope you and your Hubby are able to cope with this. Thank you georgia I'm glad the spread of this awareness is being met. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 2:50:39 GMT
Is there a typical time or age when this disorder starts to present? Not to my understanding, but most people I have spoken with who have this are in their early to mid twenties and have had it for a few years or more. I started experiencing it at 16 briefly, then it came back when I was 21. |
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 21, 2017 12:50:26 GMT
Amazing information being shared here. If the condition (is that the correct word) begins early, might the affected person feel this is how everyone is? I know that with Fibro, it was early onsetting enough that I did not realize I wasn't like everyone else. I seriously thought people in active physical sports enjoyed pain. Only when it became really bad did I realize everyone couldn't be hurting as much as I did and sought medical help.
Wishing everyone the best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 13:36:16 GMT
Thank you for starting a thread to help educate me. There is so much I am still ignorant about. I appreciate the chance to learn.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 21, 2017 14:04:22 GMT
This is fascinating, and also frightening. I wondered if it was something to pursue for myself but it doesn't quite match. I am interested in learning more about it!
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Post by malibou on Jul 21, 2017 16:00:56 GMT
Thank you for starting this thread. I am another who has not heard of this condition, but I certainly wish the best to those that are suffering.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 16:09:00 GMT
Many people who experience this condition don't feel real. They may not physically feel like they are in their body. People around them may feel distant to them or like they are just a dream. Time may feel warped. They may feel emotionally numb. They may lose touch with their identity, or feel like it's completely gone. I struggled a lot with these exact feelings in my late teens/early twenties and they caused me to isolate myself. I couldn't explain to anyone how I was feeling and I probably still can't very well. It was a feeling of not being connected physically to my life, I felt myself 'float' through situations as if I was elsewhere watching them happen. Anxiety was definitely the trigger for me, once I got that under control the feelings of disconnectedness became less. They did return last year when I had my meltdown but not on the same scale, I credit my husband with getting me through it. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 21, 2017 16:12:34 GMT
thank you from me, too, for starting this thread. (is this what the guy from Linkin Park suffered with? I heard that it was suicide, but I didn't hear / read anything else about it.)
I have also never heard of this condition before. after reading the WebMD entry (lol-- not great research, I know) I think maybe (?) I've had a couple brief episodes similar to this-- like, only a moment or two at a time-- but I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to feel like that all the time, and what it would be like to have to function in a state like that.
Our brains are so weird, in the things they can do to us, aren't they?
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Post by scrappyesq on Jul 21, 2017 17:06:53 GMT
Another who knows zilch about this condition. Mymindseyedpea, your threads are always great, bringing up things I would never think about otherwise. Scrappesq, I hope you and your Hubby are able to cope with this.
Thank you.
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Post by scrappyesq on Jul 21, 2017 17:07:18 GMT
I really appreciate you starting this thread. One of the things that DH and I have learned during this past agonizing year is that he suffers from it along with depression. It's hard. I know what that's like. I wanted to go back to the past where a more familiar self of me was. I'm sorry for you and your dh. I know it's hard on both of you. I hope this thread brings you some ease. Thank you. |
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Post by dulcemama on Jul 21, 2017 17:10:19 GMT
Many people who experience this condition don't feel real. They may not physically feel like they are in their body. People around them may feel distant to them or like they are just a dream. Time may feel warped. They may feel emotionally numb. They may lose touch with their identity, or feel like it's completely gone. I struggled a lot with these exact feelings in my late teens/early twenties and they caused me to isolate myself. I couldn't explain to anyone how I was feeling and I probably still can't very well. It was a feeling of not being connected physically to my life, I felt myself 'float' through situations as if I was elsewhere watching them happen. Anxiety was definitely the trigger for me, once I got that under control the feelings of disconnectedness became less. They did return last year when I had my meltdown but not on the same scale, I credit my husband with getting me through it. This is me too. I remember feeling this way a lot during college. Mine returned for a bit after DD was born and I suffered from PPD which, for me, manifested mainly as anxiety. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 18:13:41 GMT
Amazing information being shared here. If the condition (is that the correct word) begins early, might the affected person feel this is how everyone is? I know that with Fibro, it was early onsetting enough that I did not realize I wasn't like everyone else. I seriously thought people in active physical sports enjoyed pain. Only when it became really bad did I realize everyone couldn't be hurting as much as I did and sought medical help. Wishing everyone the best. Yes, I have had someone say they think they were born with it because they don't remember when it started. But I wondered the same thing about how could they then tell the difference? |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 18:22:55 GMT
This is fascinating, and also frightening. I wondered if it was something to pursue for myself but it doesn't quite match. I am interested in learning more about it! I think the best way to pursue something is to not see it as something you are looking for label on, but just what the affects of it are and focus on those. Some may go together, others may not. Any kind of dissociative experience can be so complex in the mental aspect that it's hard to simplify its root. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 18:38:21 GMT
Many people who experience this condition don't feel real. They may not physically feel like they are in their body. People around them may feel distant to them or like they are just a dream. Time may feel warped. They may feel emotionally numb. They may lose touch with their identity, or feel like it's completely gone. I struggled a lot with these exact feelings in my late teens/early twenties and they caused me to isolate myself. I couldn't explain to anyone how I was feeling and I probably still can't very well. It was a feeling of not being connected physically to my life, I felt myself 'float' through situations as if I was elsewhere watching them happen. Anxiety was definitely the trigger for me, once I got that under control the feelings of disconnectedness became less. They did return last year when I had my meltdown but not on the same scale, I credit my husband with getting me through it. Yeah the feeling of it can be so hard to put into words. I'm glad you don't feel that way anymore. I saw my anxiety as the core of it too. I knew that if I took care of the anxiety, the rest would take care of itself. The more that anxious thoughts are entertained (whether that's from honoring them or resisting them) the more one gets pulled more into their head, when they should be grounded in their body. But ever since my last episode in 2013 ... well let's just say I look at it way differently now from a personal deeper point of view as that's when I started to learn about astrology and everything clicked for me. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 18:50:22 GMT
thank you from me, too, for starting this thread. (is this what the guy from Linkin Park suffered with? I heard that it was suicide, but I didn't hear / read anything else about it.) I have also never heard of this condition before. after reading the WebMD entry (lol-- not great research, I know) I think maybe (?) I've had a couple brief episodes similar to this-- like, only a moment or two at a time-- but I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to feel like that all the time, and what it would be like to have to function in a state like that. Our brains are so weird, in the things they can do to us, aren't they? Yes, you can find a lot about Chester having suffered with this condition. Many have experienced this before. My very first time was when I was like 12. I felt like I jumped out of my body and the feeling scared me so much that I somehow jumped back in seconds later. The thought of it never crossed my mind again until I was 16. And yeah the mental world is a place of unlimited possibilities because any thought can be created and start taking a life of its own. That's why it's so nice to have logic and practicality. I just personally get cabin fever when I'm in an environment that only supports that for too long and need to get creative |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 18:59:17 GMT
I struggled a lot with these exact feelings in my late teens/early twenties and they caused me to isolate myself. I couldn't explain to anyone how I was feeling and I probably still can't very well. It was a feeling of not being connected physically to my life, I felt myself 'float' through situations as if I was elsewhere watching them happen. Anxiety was definitely the trigger for me, once I got that under control the feelings of disconnectedness became less. They did return last year when I had my meltdown but not on the same scale, I credit my husband with getting me through it. This is me too. I remember feeling this way a lot during college. Mine returned for a bit after DD was born and I suffered from PPD which, for me, manifested mainly as anxiety. It doesn't seem like hormone changes are this condition's friend. I started feeling this hardcore during my 7th month of pregnancy. After dd was born the nurses highly suggested that I take something for the PPD because they thought I would get stuck hard with it from the state I was already in. But all these hard times have made of stronger. |
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 21, 2017 19:27:18 GMT
This is fascinating, and also frightening. I wondered if it was something to pursue for myself but it doesn't quite match. I am interested in learning more about it! I think the best way to pursue something is to not see it as something you are looking for label on, but just what the affects of it are and focus on those. Some may go together, others may not. Any kind of dissociative experience can be so complex in the mental aspect that it's hard to simplify its root. This isgood advice. I've been searching for a "label" for years. |
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 21:27:38 GMT
I think the best way to pursue something is to not see it as something you are looking for label on, but just what the affects of it are and focus on those. Some may go together, others may not. Any kind of dissociative experience can be so complex in the mental aspect that it's hard to simplify its root. This isgood advice. I've been searching for a "label" for years. I’m so sorry, that must be frustrating for you. I’ll admit that in 2004 when I first experienced this condition to where it wasn’t going away, I was very confused on what was going on and it felt extremely unsettling and nerve-wracking. Then a friend of mine suggested that I may have depersonalization. I looked it up and sure enough it was exactly how I was feeling. And I was so relieved to have a name for it and to know I wasn’t the only one going through this and especially happy that this wasn’t something I was making up. But then other symptoms started showing up that I couldn’t even explain, because they went beyond what my mind could comprehend. All I could base them on was the awareness. And I couldn’t find anyone who could relate to them from the wording that I wracked my brain into figuring out. (this was before I took my journey to deeper meaning and philosophical approaches, but I’m sure that Carl Jung and I would have had a blast exploring through this though ) It wasn’t until I started looking into deeper stuff that I came to understand where these symptoms were coming from. Or at least at a level where I found some peace with them. And some who don’t resonate with my views in life, think that my interest in “head in the clouds” and “escaping from reality” (mainly boyfriend) was what caused me to experience this depersonalized state. When actually it was the other way around. And without this experience, I may not have ever found what supports my passion in life which is all about deep and expansive exploring. |
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 21, 2017 21:31:32 GMT
I know this isn't what's going on with me, but you are giving me some hope. When the psychiatrist says he can't figure you out, it's rather discouraging.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jul 21, 2017 21:58:28 GMT
I know this isn't what's going on with me, but you are giving me some hope. When the psychiatrist says he can't figure you out, it's rather discouraging. Oh my, yes, that's gotta be  I used to dream of getting a brain scan done just so I can stun the doctors, when all I have to do now is just show an astrologer my natal chart |
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